thomas schorpp escreveu:
>
> history showed such things have been always replacements since M$ stole 
> X-Windows and other stuff from MIT.
>   
FYI Microsoft stole GUI design from Apple, who stole it from Xerox PARC...
I assume the rest of your statements have similar accuracy.
>> I saw a developer politely asking if there would be interesting on some 
>> alternative proprietary well-written SIP stack.
>>     
>
> how do You know "well-written" if closed source?
>
>   
Please, read "100% RFC compliant" instead.
>> The answer is YES, there 
>> are people who want this kind of support specially if bundled with the 
>> patent encumbered codecs that will not make into callweaver any time 
>> soon.
>>     
>
> stay on topic pls. codecs are not in a session initiation protocol (SIP).
> and we shouldn't give a shit on that U.S. lawyers trivial software patents 
> bullshit.
> besides, the community has nearly always managed to give reverse-engineered 
> and clean room designed replacements for codecs, since mp3 times. 
>   
We who, white-skin? Don't you know the core developers position on this 
matter? There are already free implementations of some patent encumbered 
codecs in the wide, but they will not be included in callweaver until 
the patents expire, period.

Also some of the patents in question where granted over HARDWARE 
implementations, so the question if software patents are enforcible on 
your particular jurisdiction is not even relevant.
>> For many people, callweaver will not be a viable alternative to 
>> asterisk without this. Some folk will not buy the GNU-fundamentalist 
>> "just make your provider use speex" argument.
>>     
>
> all my providers here use PCMA (G711a). just don't support providers 
> restricting to unfree codecs at all. they stink like skype.
>
>   
You just made the argument I told you some people don't buy.
>> I hope you have not scared the man. :-)
>>     
>
> he must take it. this sounds like censorship
How rude!.

Regards,
--
Paulo

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