Well, yes. You suggested earlier "Borrowing time to make deadline". If I had not read this thread and if Manager said something like that to me, I think my initial reaction would be "It does what?".
-Juha On 3 October 2014 21:44, McLeod, John <[email protected]> wrote: > That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back. > > Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* Juha [[email protected]] > *Received:* Friday, 03 Oct 2014, 2:22PM > *To:* BOINC Development [[email protected]] > *Subject:* Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > "Skipping queue to meet deadline" ? > > -Juha > > > On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I still would like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next > > to "Running", despite David's logic against it. > > > > The user's interpretations are not something we can control. > > Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is > > something we can control. > > And I haven't heard anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still > > like to see it. > > :) > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +0000 > > > CC: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > > > I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a > connotation > > of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean > settable > > by the user. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM > > > To: McLeod, John > > > Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > > > Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. > > > or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more > important. > > > or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- > > > > > > Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than > > > someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. > > > I'd say it's second to (high) priority. > > > > > > Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or > others. > > > or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the > > > payment of debts. > > > > > > We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have > > > the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: > > > http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority > > > > > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in > > English though. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: boinc_dev [mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>] On Behalf > > Of Jord van der Elst > > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM > > > > To: David Anderson > > > > Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List > > > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > > > > > Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. > > > > Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. > > > > > > > > Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of > > > > importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. > > > > > > > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion > > > >> with OS priority. > > > >> > > > >> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the > > > >> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than > > > >> its fair share of computing. > > > >> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines > > > >> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user > complaints. > > > >> > > > >> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; > > > >> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. > > > >> > > > >> -- D > > > >> > > > >> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to > > > >>> "Running". > > > >>> > > > >>> ________________________________ > > > >>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>> > > > >>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM > > > >>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]> > >; > > > >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > >>> > > > >>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC > > workshop > > > >>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation > > was one > > > >>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users > thinking > > that > > > >>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think > > we're > > > >>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I > > agree with > > > >>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could > > be > > > >>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> ________________________________ > > > >>>> From: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> > > > >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM > > > >>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS > > Scheduler > > > >>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule > > might be > > > >>>> good for helping diagnose problems. > > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>>> boinc_dev mailing list > > > >>>> [email protected] > > > >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > > > >>> [email protected] > > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > > > >>> [email protected] > > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> boinc_dev mailing list > > > >> [email protected] > > > >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > boinc_dev mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > boinc_dev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > boinc_dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
