Some permutation of 'deadline', 'risk', 'miss' ? (At) risk of deadline miss ? Risk of missing deadline ?
>________________________________ > From: Jord van der Elst <[email protected]> >To: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> >Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 5:24 PM >Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > >On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:13 PM, McLeod, John <[email protected]> wrote: >> I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation of >> permanent. >From BOINC's point of view, it runs these tasks before anything else, >preferably until BOINC calculates that they can meet their deadline >and otherwise until they're finished. >That's preceding any of the other tasks, and only during the time of >the new condition. > >At least in Dutch that would make perfect sense, 'met voorrang'. > >I can't help it that English is so rigid, inelastic. :P > >> Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable by the user. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM >> To: McLeod, John >> Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List >> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> >> Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. >> or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important. >> or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- >> >> Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than >> someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. >> I'd say it's second to (high) priority. >> >> Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. >> or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the >> payment of debts. >> >> We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have >> the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: >> http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority >> >> -- Jord van der Elst. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in English >>> though. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: boinc_dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Jord van der Elst >>> Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM >>> To: David Anderson >>> Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >>> >>> Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. >>> Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. >>> >>> Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of >>> importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. >>> >>> -- Jord van der Elst. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion >>>> with OS priority. >>>> >>>> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the >>>> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than >>>> its fair share of computing. >>>> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines >>>> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user complaints. >>>> >>>> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; >>>> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. >>>> >>>> -- D >>>> >>>> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to >>>>> "Running". >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM >>>>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:[email protected]>; >>>>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >>>>> >>>>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC workshop >>>>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation was one >>>>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking that >>>>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think we're >>>>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I agree >>>>> with >>>>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could be >>>>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM >>>>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS Scheduler >>>>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule might be >>>>>> good for helping diagnose problems. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> boinc_dev mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >>>>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >>>>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boinc_dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >>>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >>>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> boinc_dev mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >>>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >>>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> boinc_dev mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> boinc_dev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >_______________________________________________ >boinc_dev mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >(near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
