That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back. Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com)
-----Original Message----- From: Juha [[email protected]] Received: Friday, 03 Oct 2014, 2:22PM To: BOINC Development [[email protected]] Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. "Skipping queue to meet deadline" ? -Juha On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > I still would like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next > to "Running", despite David's logic against it. > > The user's interpretations are not something we can control. > Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is > something we can control. > And I haven't heard anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still > like to see it. > :) > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +0000 > > CC: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation > of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable > by the user. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM > > To: McLeod, John > > Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. > > or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important. > > or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- > > > > Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than > > someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. > > I'd say it's second to (high) priority. > > > > Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. > > or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the > > payment of debts. > > > > We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have > > the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: > > http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority > > > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in > English though. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: boinc_dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Jord van der Elst > > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM > > > To: David Anderson > > > Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List > > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > > > > > Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. > > > Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. > > > > > > Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of > > > importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. > > > > > > -- Jord van der Elst. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion > > >> with OS priority. > > >> > > >> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the > > >> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than > > >> its fair share of computing. > > >> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines > > >> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user complaints. > > >> > > >> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; > > >> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. > > >> > > >> -- D > > >> > > >> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to > > >>> "Running". > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:[email protected]> > > >>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM > > >>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:[email protected]>; > > >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > >>> > > >>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC > workshop > > >>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation > was one > > >>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking > that > > >>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think > we're > > >>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I > agree with > > >>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could > be > > >>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> ________________________________ > > >>>> From: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> > > >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM > > >>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS > Scheduler > > >>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule > might be > > >>>> good for helping diagnose problems. > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> boinc_dev mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> boinc_dev mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> boinc_dev mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > boinc_dev mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ > > boinc_dev mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ > boinc_dev mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. > _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address. _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
