I don't think we'll ever have space to fit all that in, until we implement tooltip technology in BOINC Manager for full information boxes, rather than just completing truncated cells.
>________________________________ > From: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> >To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>; >"[email protected]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 7:44 PM >Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > > >That misses the detail that the time is borrowed, and will be paid back. > >Sent from my Android phone using TouchDown (www.nitrodesk.com) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Juha [[email protected]] >Received: Friday, 03 Oct 2014, 2:22PM >To: BOINC Development [[email protected]] >Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. > >"Skipping queue to meet deadline" ? > >-Juha > > >On 3 October 2014 19:15, Jacob Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I still would like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next >> to "Running", despite David's logic against it. >> >> The user's interpretations are not something we can control. >> Providing the feedback, using as meaningful description as possible, is >> something we can control. >> And I haven't heard anything that beats my proposal, hence why I'd still >> like to see it. >> :) >> >> >> >> > From: [email protected] >> > To: [email protected] >> > Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:13:11 +0000 >> > CC: [email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > >> > I know the dictionary meanings. Precedence tends to carry a connotation >> of permanent. Preference t (in computers at least) tends to mean settable >> by the user. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jord van der Elst [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 12:10 PM >> > To: McLeod, John >> > Cc: David Anderson; BOINC Dev Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > >> > Priority: a thing that is regarded as more important than another. >> > or: the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important. >> > or: the right to take precedence or to proceed before others. ** <--- >> > >> > Precedence: the condition of being considered more important than >> > someone or something else; priority in importance, order, or rank. >> > I'd say it's second to (high) priority. >> > >> > Preference: a greater liking for one alternative over another or others. >> > or: a prior right or precedence, especially in connection with the >> > payment of debts. >> > >> > We want to step away from priority, but do we still want it to have >> > the same meaning? As then you look at synonyms, which is what I did: >> > http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/priority >> > >> > -- Jord van der Elst. >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 6:03 PM, McLeod, John <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > Neither preference nor precedence has the quite right meaning in >> English though. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: boinc_dev [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >> Of Jord van der Elst >> > > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 11:53 AM >> > > To: David Anderson >> > > Cc: BOINC Dev Mailing List >> > > Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > > >> > > Task xx_yy_zz running as preference, trying to meet the deadline. >> > > Task xx_yy_zz running in precedence, trying to meet the deadline. >> > > >> > > Seeing how we do want to tell that it's a status in order of >> > > importance or urgency, we may want to go for the second one. >> > > >> > > -- Jord van der Elst. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anderson <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> I think anything containing "priority" will create confusion >> > >> with OS priority. >> > >> >> > >> The other problem with showing this info is that it creates the >> > >> erroneous impression that the job's project will get more than >> > >> its fair share of computing. >> > >> Several projects report that when they use short job deadlines >> > >> (which create "high priority" jobs) they get lots of user complaints. >> > >> >> > >> So I'm in favor of not showing this in the GUI; >> > >> maybe we can show it in the event log in some better way. >> > >> >> > >> -- D >> > >> >> > >> On 03-Oct-2014 3:24 PM, Jacob Klein wrote: >> > >>> >> > >>> I'd like to see "Prioritized to meet deadline" in the UI, next to >> > >>> "Running". >> > >>> >> > >>> ________________________________ >> > >>> From: Richard Haselgrove<mailto:[email protected]> >> > >>> Sent: 10/3/2014 9:19 AM >> > >>> To: McLeod, John<mailto:[email protected]>; >> > >>> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> > >>> Subject: Re: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > >>> >> > >>> The removal followed a question and answer session at the BOINC >> workshop >> > >>> in Budapest earlier this week. The OS scheduler mis-interpretation >> was one >> > >>> that I highlighted, but there was also a problem with users thinking >> that >> > >>> High Priority was a project-chosen queue-jumping facility. I think >> we're >> > >>> much better off without those confusions over terminology, but I >> agree with >> > >>> John that it would be good if the reason for non-FIFO running could >> be >> > >>> marked in some way - if we can find a less-frightening word. >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> ________________________________ >> > >>>> From: "McLeod, John" <[email protected]> >> > >>>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> > >>>> Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 2:01 PM >> > >>>> Subject: [boinc_dev] High priority status message removed. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> OK, High Priority made it sound like it was running at High OS >> Scheduler >> > >>>> Priority, but some tag that it is not in the normal RR schedule >> might be >> > >>>> good for helping diagnose problems. >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > >>>> [email protected] >> > >>>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > >>>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > >>>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > >>> [email protected] >> > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > >>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>> boinc_dev mailing list >> > >>> [email protected] >> > >>> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > >>> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > >>> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > >>> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> > >> boinc_dev mailing list >> > >> [email protected] >> > >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > boinc_dev mailing list >> > > [email protected] >> > > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > boinc_dev mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> > To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> > (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> boinc_dev mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >> To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >> (near bottom of page) enter your email address. >> >_______________________________________________ >boinc_dev mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >(near bottom of page) enter your email address. >_______________________________________________ >boinc_dev mailing list >[email protected] >http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev >To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and >(near bottom of page) enter your email address. > > _______________________________________________ boinc_dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/boinc_dev To unsubscribe, visit the above URL and (near bottom of page) enter your email address.
