I absolutely agree with that.  That is why it is taking us so longer.  We
are coming from Help Desk 6, custom CM / Asset (as of yesterday AR 7.6.04
SP4 from 7.5 p1).  Translating the apps into ITSM has been a bit of a chore
people wise, politically, procedurally, financially.


On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Patrick Zandi <[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> I think that depends on your hardware and business strategy coupled with
> customer support.  Going from 5 to 8 is like going from a packer to a hummer
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 16:15, Jason Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ** I am very comfortable with v8.  I am building a new ITSM 8 environment
> that we'll hopefully go live with (it seems we build more environments that
> don't get used i.e.ITSM 7.5, ITSM 7.6.04).  We keep building the latest
> and greatest waiting for the time our IT dept is ready to use some of it.
>  Maybe subconsciously that is why I am ok with the latest, because I deep
> down I know our new 8 environment won't get used :)
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 9:25 AM, John Sundberg <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> ** General question…
>>
>> What would you rather be running?
>>
>> An unsupported version that you have used successfully for 5+ years?
>> or
>> A supported version of the "latest" version?
>>
>>
>> -John
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Longwing, LJ CTR MDA/IC <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Matthew,
>>> Going out of support can have many impacts.  Depending on what your
>>> corporate direction is, and the criticality of your system, your company
>>> may have a policy that you MUST be up to date on patches/versions of
>>> software if for no other reason than security.  They typically seem to want
>>> someone to escalate an issue to if a problem exists that is causing an
>>> outage.  Neither of these would be possible if you stay on your current
>>> version beyond the EOL.
>>>
>>> Outside of that aspect of it, 7.5 was a stable version in general, and
>>> isn't prone to crashing on a regular basis, so if you drop out of support,
>>> then you aren't likely to have a system just dying on you regularily.
>>>
>>> On a separate note though, BMC in the past has required you to basically
>>> 'pay back rent' when you stop support, and then re-start at a later
>>> date...so the general 'savings' don't end up materializing if that is the
>>> thought behind potentially dropping support.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Moellmer, Matthew
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:01 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: BMC Support/EOL
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't post a lot here but I do read a lot. Currently we are on version
>>> 7.5 which is scheduled for end of life 2nd qtr. 2013 I think. While trying
>>> to get a project moving and get the system upgraded I have found that we
>>> may not be given/granted all of the tools we need to make the move
>>> successfully. With that being said, has anyone dealt with BMC and falling
>>> out of support completely? This is something I haven't had to deal with in
>>> the past and if it comes down to it I am just wondering if any other
>>> customers have had to deal with this and what to expect. I am already
>>> working with BMC on this, so I am just looking for an outside opinion from
>>> others that may have dealt with this.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Matthew Moellmer
>>>
>>>
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