Awe snap, chuck, your hitting them in the numbers? Dont do the math man,
that will boil their nuts

On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 10:47 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> Seems airlines hire 5000 new pilots each year.  (from one unknown source)
>
> There are 10,000 new ATP certificates granted each year but half of them
> wash out or pause flying prior to earning the coveted 5000 hours that you
> need to become a first officer.
>
>
>
> So, seems supply exactly equals demand (roughly).  Other sources are
> saying there is a shortage.
>
>
>
> Now, add an artifical restriction, of that 5000 fully qualified ATPs, your
> HR department says half have to be black/women.
>
>
>
> Only 5% of that pool are women.  So, there are 250 available.
>
> Only 4% of pool are black.  So that will get you 200.
>
> 450 total per year but your HR department mandated 10X that amount.
>
>
>
> How will you fill that requirement?  Only one way, reduce the number of
> hours required.  But even if you took it all the way down to the 1500 hours
> it takes to the the ATP you will still only have 900 available to fill 5X
> the requirement.  And you will have 450 underqualified people sitting in
> the right seat in front.
>
>
>
> I doubt the figure I found for needing 5000 new pilots industry wide.  I
> think it is low.   I found another number saying that United Airlines (the
> one that had that DEI policy for a while) uses about 2000 new ones each
> year.
>
> Seems that United uses 40% of the pilots each year?  In any event, that
> would make the numbers still work out in a similar fashion.  Mandate 1000
> where there are only 450 available assuming your company gets all 450.
>
>
>
> It’s math bitch, not racism.
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