A few recent reports are claiming 500,000 and there's a skull in china they are claiming 1,000,000.  Hopefully there will be more old fossils found to verify those dates.  I'll remain skeptical for now.  That would put homo sapiens in a separate family from Neanderthal, we're competing cousins that intermingled.  The concept of god is new to mankind and the belief in spirits is more ancient.  Evolution shows us that whatever humans believe is completely made up, manufactured for our own comfort in answering complex questions that don't have answers.  For hundreds of thousands of years we've been burying our dead after sprinkling them with red-ocre.  This practice has been found world-wide, would that mean it predates emigration?  A practice so ancient every human brought it with them?  Is it a learned practice? Why red paint?  And flowers.  I've never heard of a christian burial using red-paint.

On 9/25/25 12:43, Bill Prince wrote:

I see that all a bit differently.

Homo sapiens have existed by some estimates for ~~300,000 years, and organized religion in its various forms has been around for 10-11 thousand years. So for almost 97% of the time humans have existed, there was no organized religion. Maybe there were other nature-based beliefs going back a bit farther, but there may have been as many belief versions as there were families or tribes or whatever.

If there is a god, I have a hard time believing they would "punish" someone for not worshiping them during a lifetime. Further, which of the several religions is the "correct" one?

I think if you live a just, fair, and empathetic life, that should be reward enough; especially if there is no clear choice.

That said, I know Georgia has had experiences/conversations with her dearly departed parents and sister. Maybe there's something there, and maybe it's random synapse activity. Who knows?

In any case, it's not my position to tell people (or preach) how they should or should not live. I just hope they have the same level of fairness that I have for everyone else.


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On 9/24/2025 12:30 PM, [email protected] wrote:

Easy to see why.  I understand your rationale.

Irrespective of history, we either survive death in some form or we don’t.

I don’t have enough courage to even entertain the notion we do not survive death. Especially in light of 100,000 or more near death writings and videos all largely describing the same experience.

Moreover I had a direct physical experience with my son Adam after he died.

So, not hedging your bets seems risky to me.  It costs you nothing really to cover your bases.  If there is some form of afterlife, is your situation there dependent on any decisions you make while here?  Some say yes.  Surely there are some best practices describing how to make the most of you sojourn here.  Lots of opinions about that.

I am more of a universalist in nature.

If all you have to do was recite a holy incantation to get a nice country home with a pool and a cook, hey, tell me the magic words.  I am all in.

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