No sir science is boudeekam. Nature is a science. Misuse of science is not the defect of science. K. Rajaram IRS 131124
On Wed, 13 Nov 2024, 13:42 Markendeya Yeddanapudi, < [email protected]> wrote: > My God,if Spiritualism is also mechanized and scienced,we lose the very > faculty of feeling. > YM > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 1:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Spiritualism is also a science KR >> >> On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 14:41, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar**Spiritualism and Science* >>> >>> *The path of Spiritualism is to live without forms in the formless. >>> According to Einstein, everything in fact moves at the speed of light. But >>> the other three dimensions---length, breadth and height, slow it. But when >>> a thing frees itself from those dimensions and when only the time dimension >>> remains the body will move at the speed of light. Are we all moving into >>> the time dimension only? When a body achieves the speed of light its volume >>> becomes infinite. Are we proceeding to infinity?* >>> >>> *Science is based on the effort to create definite forms, mathematical >>> reductions, mechanical constructs, it needs definitions and scopes within >>> the limits of the definition. Do we leave all sciences when we leave for >>> good?* >>> >>> *Can formlessness function as a paradigm, a connectable base for >>> understanding? Is that paradigm simply belief? While living we have >>> basically two fundamental paradigms—the inside and the outside. Many ask >>> the question after the infinity or at the end of the infinity, what? But >>> the Universe has no outside, something which we simply cannot conceptualize >>> while living. You cannot add, subtract, multiply or divide infinity. When >>> we live in the present, we experience the present and we cannot analyse >>> while living the present. When you start analysing, you stop living in the >>> present. Are we living the infinity, when we live in the present only? Can >>> science and Spiritualism co-exist? Can there be mechanized spiritualism, >>> which is what the Management Gurus are trying to achieve?* >>> >>> *More than 99 per cent of reality is in the invisible spectrum, the >>> abstract and formless arena, where material attributes based on the forms >>> conjured in the visible spectrum is meaningless. How to identify with >>> physical forms to the formless? Our own thoughts are formless, they are not >>> imprisoned in the three visible and the fourth-time (the feeling based), >>> dimensions. I puzzle whether the essence of spiritualism consists of >>> developing the ability to use the formless non three dimensional concepts >>> and the single or the uni-time concept for understanding.* >>> >>> *YM* >>> >>> *Chat GPT* >>> >>> *You're right that while the text explored the interplay between science >>> and spiritualism, it may not have directly answered your questions. Let me >>> address them more specifically:* >>> >>> >>> >>> *1. **Are we all moving into the time dimension only?** In the context >>> of Einstein's theory, all objects are influenced by time and space. >>> However, the idea of moving into the time dimension only is more of a >>> philosophical or spiritual interpretation, implying an experience beyond >>> physical constraints. This suggests a deeper connection with the present >>> moment, where time is experienced without the interruption of spatial >>> dimensions.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *2. **Are we proceeding to infinity when a body achieves the speed of >>> light?** Scientifically, a body with mass cannot reach the speed of light >>> because its energy requirements would become infinite. Conceptually, >>> though, approaching the speed of light hints at transcending known physical >>> limits, which aligns with spiritual beliefs of reaching an infinite or >>> boundless state.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *3. **Do we leave all sciences when we leave for good?** This touches on >>> the question of existence beyond physical life. Spiritual traditions often >>> suggest that consciousness or being continues without the constructs of >>> science, implying that the soul or awareness transcends scientific >>> understanding at that point.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *4. **Can formlessness function as a paradigm for understanding?** Yes, >>> in spiritualism, formlessness represents the unquantifiable aspects of >>> existence, such as love, consciousness, or the soul. It functions as a >>> paradigm that isn't based on empirical evidence but on experiential and >>> intuitive knowledge.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *5. **Are we living the infinity when we live in the present?** From a >>> spiritual perspective, yes. Being fully present means experiencing life >>> without past or future constraints, which can be seen as touching the >>> infinite.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *6. **Can science and spiritualism co-exist?** They can, but they often >>> operate in different realms: science deals with empirical evidence and >>> forms, while spiritualism embraces the abstract and unquantifiable. A >>> holistic worldview may integrate both, acknowledging that each has its >>> place in understanding the full spectrum of existence.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *7. **Can there be mechanized spiritualism?** Mechanized spiritualism >>> refers to structured practices that attempt to create spiritual experiences >>> or states. While methods like mindfulness techniques can guide people, true >>> spiritual realization is seen as transcending structured approaches and >>> cannot be fully mechanized.* >>> >>> >>> >>> *Would you like any of these ideas expanded or explained further?* >>> >> > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZoqGL33A6mG1DU_6s%2BPC%2B87KwVmj9tYFKM4Pj6Qc4XGymw%40mail.gmail.com.
