My God,if Spiritualism is also mechanized and scienced,we lose the very
faculty of feeling.
YM

On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 1:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Spiritualism is also a science KR
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2024 at 14:41, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Mar**Spiritualism and Science*
>>
>> *The path of Spiritualism is to live without forms in the formless.
>> According to Einstein, everything in fact moves at the speed of light. But
>> the other three dimensions---length, breadth and height, slow it. But when
>> a thing frees itself from those dimensions and when only the time dimension
>> remains the body will move at the speed of light. Are we all moving into
>> the time dimension only? When a body achieves the speed of light its volume
>> becomes infinite. Are we proceeding to infinity?*
>>
>> *Science is based on the effort to create definite forms, mathematical
>> reductions, mechanical constructs, it needs definitions and scopes within
>> the limits of the definition. Do we leave all sciences when we leave for
>> good?*
>>
>> *Can formlessness function as a paradigm, a connectable base for
>> understanding? Is that paradigm simply belief? While living we have
>> basically two fundamental paradigms—the inside and the outside. Many ask
>> the question after the infinity or at the end of the infinity, what? But
>> the Universe has no outside, something which we simply cannot conceptualize
>> while living. You cannot add, subtract, multiply or divide infinity. When
>> we live in the present, we experience the present and we cannot analyse
>> while living the present. When you start analysing, you stop living in the
>> present. Are we living the infinity, when we live in the present only? Can
>> science and Spiritualism co-exist? Can there be mechanized spiritualism,
>> which is what the Management Gurus are trying to achieve?*
>>
>> *More than 99 per cent of reality is in the invisible spectrum, the
>> abstract and formless arena, where material attributes based on the forms
>> conjured in the visible spectrum is meaningless. How to identify with
>> physical forms to the formless? Our own thoughts are formless, they are not
>> imprisoned in the three visible and the fourth-time (the feeling based),
>> dimensions. I puzzle whether the essence of spiritualism consists of
>> developing the ability to use the formless non three dimensional concepts
>> and the single or the uni-time concept for understanding.*
>>
>> *YM*
>>
>> *Chat GPT*
>>
>> *You're right that while the text explored the interplay between science
>> and spiritualism, it may not have directly answered your questions. Let me
>> address them more specifically:*
>>
>>
>>
>> *1. **Are we all moving into the time dimension only?** In the context of
>> Einstein's theory, all objects are influenced by time and space. However,
>> the idea of moving into the time dimension only is more of a philosophical
>> or spiritual interpretation, implying an experience beyond physical
>> constraints. This suggests a deeper connection with the present moment,
>> where time is experienced without the interruption of spatial dimensions.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *2. **Are we proceeding to infinity when a body achieves the speed of
>> light?** Scientifically, a body with mass cannot reach the speed of light
>> because its energy requirements would become infinite. Conceptually,
>> though, approaching the speed of light hints at transcending known physical
>> limits, which aligns with spiritual beliefs of reaching an infinite or
>> boundless state.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *3. **Do we leave all sciences when we leave for good?** This touches on
>> the question of existence beyond physical life. Spiritual traditions often
>> suggest that consciousness or being continues without the constructs of
>> science, implying that the soul or awareness transcends scientific
>> understanding at that point.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *4. **Can formlessness function as a paradigm for understanding?** Yes,
>> in spiritualism, formlessness represents the unquantifiable aspects of
>> existence, such as love, consciousness, or the soul. It functions as a
>> paradigm that isn't based on empirical evidence but on experiential and
>> intuitive knowledge.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *5. **Are we living the infinity when we live in the present?** From a
>> spiritual perspective, yes. Being fully present means experiencing life
>> without past or future constraints, which can be seen as touching the
>> infinite.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *6. **Can science and spiritualism co-exist?** They can, but they often
>> operate in different realms: science deals with empirical evidence and
>> forms, while spiritualism embraces the abstract and unquantifiable. A
>> holistic worldview may integrate both, acknowledging that each has its
>> place in understanding the full spectrum of existence.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *7. **Can there be mechanized spiritualism?** Mechanized spiritualism
>> refers to structured practices that attempt to create spiritual experiences
>> or states. While methods like mindfulness techniques can guide people, true
>> spiritual realization is seen as transcending structured approaches and
>> cannot be fully mechanized.*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Would you like any of these ideas expanded or explained further?*
>>
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