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I would like to add that as much as I'd like to use mail-notification, I
also regard it as completely useless unitl SSL/TLS support has been
added.
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Ok so, change the name and lets get this sorted once and for all.
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Hold on, Mail Notification might well be a registered trademark in a
particular jurisdiction, the rules vary widely as to what is allowed as
a TM and what is not. If the original author does have a point on this,
we should respect it.
Mark
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Comment #72 by Jean-Yves Lefort on 2008-10-05:
> I own the "Mail Notification" trademark. Shipping a modified
> MN version that I have explicitly been disagreeing with is
> called trademark infringement. If someone wants to legally
> distribute such a MN version, he has to change the name of
> the
** Description changed:
The SSL/TLS options for IMAP and POP3 are greyed out in preferences.
- Only the "standard" method is available. ldd says that mail-notification
- does use gnutls (is it just for SASL then?). Upstream site mentions
- openssl instead of gnutls.
+ Only the “standard” method
Thanks David ... I didn't feel up to compiling the source just yet so
your work is appreciated :-)
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David, thanks for creating this ppa! It has worked well so far.
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This bug may well remain open for another couple of years. In the
meantime, I've created a PPA with mail-notification as conceived by its
upstream author, i.e. with SSL enabled.
https://launchpad.net/~mail-notification-ssl/+archive/ppa
Packages for all current releases (Hardy through Lucid) are a
Shipping this package without builtin ssl support is wrong whatever the reason,
so please:
- try and find a way to accomodate ubuntu rules with the author's opinions and
ship a package with ssl support
- build a package with ssl support and ship it in multiverse
- remove the package entirely from
The important step for karmic is to remove libeel2-dev from the list of
dependencies as well as to apply bug #443406.
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The only workaround for Karmic I have found so far is to compile mail-
notification (with SSL) in Jaunty and use this package for Karmic.
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Cleaning up the patch files by removing all changes from files that can be
regenerated on jaunty.
This leads to the server dbus interface working again.
Futher, ubuntu jaunty binaries and source packages for secure mail notification
and vanilla patches against mail notification 5.4 have been grou
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Hi,
more than a year ago I provided a patch for mail notification to work with
gnutls hoping
that this would speedup either distribution with openssl or gnutls enabled.
At that time, creating a gnutls enabled mail notification package failed due to
a lack of time
of the involved persons. As it
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If you can't recompile, you can use Stunnel. It binds to a port on your
computer and forwards traffic with encryption (like ssh, but you don't
need a shell account on the remote host). This is how Conky does secure
email checks. Read the Conky FAQ at
http://conky.sourceforge.net/faq.html (Q #10) to
I hope that this gets fixed until the release of Karmic. I mean a setting like
this is insane with a Laptop or Netbook.
Even worse it is not so easy possible to compile an own version of
mail-notification in Karmic because of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mail-notification/+bug/43578
Jean-Yves Lefort:
You mentioned willingness to add this clause to your README file, which would
apparently solve this. Any chance you could provide such a clause quickly, with
no other source/feature-changes to mail-notification? We as users of this
program (which so far fills a gap nobody else
This is what we in the U.S. call a Mexican standoff. This is a human
problem, not a technical problem. Free software has been burdened by it
for decades. This is why Emacs forked and XFree86 stagnated for years
under bad management until Keith Packard staged a coup. Most free
software developers an
3 years and still arguing... come on! Is it really such ideological
issue to enable SSL? :/
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As bug reporter of bug #132947, who notified Ubuntu Security about the
issue, I can barely express myself, as English is not my mother tongue,
how poorly this issue is handled - YEARS passed by. Everyone is
laughting at Microsoft when it takes them 10 months to fix severe
security issues, but seein
I second that.
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 21:38 +, Aidan Fitzpatrick wrote:
> I agree re removing this package or replacing it with another until this
> is fixed. It is insecure and I cannot see why many would use it without
> SSL. With SSL it's great, but if we have to repackage ourselves each
>
I agree re removing this package or replacing it with another until this
is fixed. It is insecure and I cannot see why many would use it without
SSL. With SSL it's great, but if we have to repackage ourselves each
time we install it may as well not be in the repository...
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This is still pissing me off so another note on this...
There are potentially MILLIONS of users out there using this program and
submitting their gmail password in cleartext. Jean-Yves Lefort,
somebody wrote the gnutls code FOR you! I don't think you care about
the security of the patch (aka you
I can't believe this is being argued over the course of three years.
There is a two second fix for this which could be accomplished either by
the ridiculously stubborn developer or the ridiculously stubborn distro
maintainers. Put your egos aside and fix the problem! So dumb.
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By the way where in the source do I change that ugly icon when there is
no new mail.
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Andrew I would like to use your ppa to have your solution dump the
results as a deb into a directory that i can copy from machine to
machine after building in one place.
Is that possible?
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Hi Andrew and Patrick,
I can report that both of you methods work in that you get a package to
install at the end, however I still have the SSL options greyed out
after installation, any ideas?
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Scratch that, I just had to end and restart the existing mail-
notification binary i.e. "sudo killall mail-notification" and then
restart from the preferences menu and the options appeared. Thanks for
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This is how I build my package. I think this should work with Ubuntu,
but I use Debian. Hopefully an Ubuntu user will report whether this
works or not. You need to have deb-src lines in your
/etc/apt/sources.list to download package sources. You'll have a bunch
of files, so I suggest you make a dir
For those interested, I wrote a deb program that does the necessary
steps to rebuild the 5.4 package in jaunty with SSL enabled. No steps to
follow, just install my package from my PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~andrew-rw-robinson/+archive/ppa
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I have decided that if debian has decided that GPL and libssl are
incompatible, I am not going to subject myself to problems by making a
PPA of this either.
I am just going to keep re-packaging it.
Perhaps the author may consider switching off of GPL, or having a dual
license, or if not switching
I'm trying to get this setup in a PPA. I got it to build with a
different version number, but if I try to rename the binary package as
"mail-notification-ssl" (did not rename the source package), the build
is failing due to the output directories I think.
Anyone know all the steps necessary to get
+1
Useless without SSL. I'm not going to send my password unencrypted over
the internet!
Using gnubiff until fixed!
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I'd like to understand: 6 months ago you found a solution to fix this but
nothing has changed since then.
Is there still anything keeping this bug from being solved?
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useless without ssl, change it or remove it from repos.
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Just adding another voice to the list! Useless without SSL.
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Hello. I would just like to inform you, that there is one more person
who thinks that current mail-notification in repository is completely
useless as long as it does not have an SSL-support.
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oh, does not wrkkk, nooo ssl...
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A big thank-you to Pat for such a well-reasoned and well-put argument. I
look forward to Jean-Yves' addition to the README and hope that we will
see MN *with* SSL/TLS in the official repos soon. As Pat notes, after
JYL makes the README addition, arguments that the author does not allow
for the dist
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> To double check my assumptions before going forward:
> 1) Debian holds that GPL software must make some exception for it to be
> correctly linked with openssl
Correct.
> 2) JYL does not note an exception nor believe it
Getting back to the root of the issue, ssl linkage.
To double check my assumptions before going forward:
1) Debian holds that GPL software must make some exception for it to be
correctly linked with openssl
2) JYL does not note an exception nor believe it to make any sense to do such
3) Without s
Okay, I guess another Ubuntu release without a usable mail-notification
package in the repositories, right? Any chance to see "Free Mail
Notification" in Backports for Intrepid soon? I think Debian and Ubuntu
would both benefit from a renamed and patched package, so please don't
hesitate any longer
Looks like the easiest solution to me too.
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The as yet current release does AFAICS not satisfy that the patch can not be
applied, thank you GPL - Anyhow, to remove further IMHO childish discussions
with the author of this software, I simply recommend to rename the the package,
apply a Patch that renames the whole software. Finito. I would
Mikael, Jean-Yves,
GPLv3, section 7 "Additonal terms", paragraph 3
*"e) Declining to grant rights under trademark law for use of some trade
names, trademarks, or service marks; or"
*
No problem. Jean-Yves may well have a valid trademark, I can live with it.
But paragraph 5, penultimate paragra
Why not enable ssl and move it to multiverse? I personally use the
package of getdeb.net which has SSL enabled.
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> Jean-Yves - am I right in assuming that your resistance applies mostly
> to this patch, and not to all patches in general?
You are.
> Or better - what IS the exact trademark license, really? Can ubuntu ship
> MN with
OlivierP
Jean-Yves is completely correct regarding trademarks. Noone stops you
from using the sources under GPL3, but only Jean-Yves can let you use
the name "Mail Notification" (assuming it's a valid trademark of
course).
Though there is of course, a potential iceweasel situation here - i.e.
Ubu
The GPLv3 obviously does not forbid to use a trademark as the name of a
covered work. You're confusing trademark and licensing issues.
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Jean-Yves,
If you REALLY intend to prohibit others from applying AZ's patch and
redistributing it under the name "Mail Notification" in releases _after_ 5.4,
you need to change certain things.
Using the sources downloaded here:
http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/mailnotify/mail-
notification-5.
FYI: http://www.getdeb.net/release/2903 V. 5.4 , SSL _enabled_ despite
package description stating otherwise. libssl appears as a dependency.
It provides the evolution plugin also.
I do hope it will be provided quickly after the Intrepid release also
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Jean-Yves Lefort wrote: "However, I own the "Mail Notification"
trademark."
Is it a registered trademark? In which country? I'm not sure whether
this trademark is relevant for ubuntu.
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On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Jean-Yves Lefort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthias,
>
> The MN license certainly grants someone the freedom to modify the MN
> source code and redistribute the modified version. However, I own the
> "Mail Notification" trademark. Shipping a modified MN version th
Matthias,
The MN license certainly grants someone the freedom to modify the MN
source code and redistribute the modified version. However, I own the
"Mail Notification" trademark. Shipping a modified MN version that I
have explicitly been disagreeing with is called trademark infringement.
If someo
Matthias, thank you! My sentiments, exactly...
MN is so close to being *really* useful, so why not get the last piece of the
puzzle in place?
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Jean-Yves,
I, for one, really really like mail-notification and I deeply respect
the work that you have put into it. Yet I'm here, unable to use this
free piece of software, while the author is explicitely refusing to do
anything constructive to change the users' situation, including making a
tin
Rachel,
mail-notification is GPL'd, while OpenSSH and Apache are released under
more liberal licenses. The problem isn't with OpenSSL per se; it's with
the combination of OpenSSL with a GPL-covered programme.
That said, GPL'd software may be combined with OpenSSL _if_ the
software's author adds
Havard, I've already pointed out above that I disagree with the idea.
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Pascal, I think you SHOULD include AZ's patch. It doesn't seem to hurt
to add that option, and those not comfortable with it can just leave it
unused...
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any chance to include mn with ssl support enabled in intrepid?
or is there an alternative to mn that supports ssl?
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excuse me if this is a silly question, but why is it ok for openssh-
client/openssh-server and apache2.2-common to depend on libssl and not
mail-notification?
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If someone with expertise in this sector could check the code it would be fine
I guess. It wouldn't be more insecure than now but I am not sure about the
license/name thing.
I think that there is no fork needed. It doesn't seem to be so much code to
review and support for both libs could be ship
Back to main subject, i'm left wondering if i should apply AZ's patch or
not...
I'm well aware of Jean-Yves' opinion on this but I'd like your thoughts
on the issue.
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On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 6:31 PM, omni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Woot! Merci merci merci monsieur!
>
> I had deleted all my build directories so in order to get the log I had
> to build again.
>
> Looking at the output from ./jb configure I noticed that ssl was
> enabled. Initially this frustrate
Woot! Merci merci merci monsieur!
I had deleted all my build directories so in order to get the log I had
to build again.
Looking at the output from ./jb configure I noticed that ssl was
enabled. Initially this frustrated me: if ssl is enabled, why is it
disabled in the built gui???
I figured I'
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 10:41 PM, omni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ?
>
> Aha, thanks - that was still set to evolution.
How come this is not set when going thru the Preferred Application GUI
is actually beyond me...
>> SSL/TLS i
> What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command ?
Aha, thanks - that was still set to evolution.
> SSL/TLS is disabled even tho libssl-dev is installed?! What's in the
configure/build logs?
Where do I find the configure/build log?
> You might have noticed that there's been
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:53 PM, omni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok I tried clicking on the tray icon to bring up my mail reader and it
> tried to load Evolution, even though my Preferred Applications is set to
> use Thunderbird.
What's in the gconf key /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/mailto/command
Omni, the fact that synaptics highlights things in red doesn't mean it's
dangerous to delete them. It just means they are set for deletion. I
don't think re-installing evo is the right thing to do nor will solve
anything for you, but don't be alarmed by those bright colours ;-). It's
the normal beh
Heheh I like the quote, Pascal... So very true.
Although ultimately if you've been rooted so someone has access to the
plaintext password file, YOU'VE BEEN ROOTED and thus have bigger
concerns than just your e-mail password file! heheh
My concern is with sending plaintext passwords over a network
Ok I tried clicking on the tray icon to bring up my mail reader and it
tried to load Evolution, even though my Preferred Applications is set to
use Thunderbird.
I installed 5.4 again now that I have libssl-dev, in hopes that there
would be an option to select which mail reader to use. Double-
disa
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:14 PM, omni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Didn't have libssl-dev installed.
>
> I tried reverting to 4.1 and manually rebuilding with dpkg and libssl-
> dev and now 4.1 works perfectly with TLS.
>
> Now that I have libssl-dev I could try with 5.4 but 4.1 seems to have
> eve
Didn't have libssl-dev installed.
I tried reverting to 4.1 and manually rebuilding with dpkg and libssl-
dev and now 4.1 works perfectly with TLS.
Now that I have libssl-dev I could try with 5.4 but 4.1 seems to have
everything I need. Have there been any significant security updates
between 4.1
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, omni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok looks like I spoke too soon...
>
> after typing 'sudo ./jb install' it ran through the installation and it
> reported that it had installed itself.
>
> When I run 'mail-notification' the app comes up, but I still have no
> TLS/SS
Ok looks like I spoke too soon...
after typing 'sudo ./jb install' it ran through the installation and it
reported that it had installed itself.
When I run 'mail-notification' the app comes up, but I still have no
TLS/SSL support. (The options are still disabled).
I've tried going through the pr
Hi,
Running Ubu 8.04
I just tried downloading the most recent source to compile with TLS
support and when I tried to run './jb configure' I received an error
about GLib not being installed. I fired up synaptic and libglib 2.0 is
in fact installed.
Tried the 'apt-get build-dep mail-notification'
Good morning!
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:35 AM, EarloftheWest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Being relatively new to compiling, I cheated a bit before I installed by
> running
> sudo apt-get build-dep mail-notification
> from the terminal. This installed the dependencies and the compliers (true?)
>
Running Hardy Heron
I downloaded the most recent source of mail-notification from:
http://www.nongnu.org/mailnotify/
And followed the Readme to install and it works fine with ssl/tls notification.
I'm very happy.
Being relatively new to compiling, I cheated a bit before I installed by running
su
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Edwin Shin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a first step to getting this in multiverse, can someone produce a
> 5.x-series source deb? I don't have much experience at producing debs
> and the new build system in 5.x doesn't jibe w/ the instructions for
> building de
As a first step to getting this in multiverse, can someone produce a
5.x-series source deb? I don't have much experience at producing debs
and the new build system in 5.x doesn't jibe w/ the instructions for
building debs I've seen online.
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IMAP/POP3+SSL/TLS are disabled
https://bugs.launchpad.
The trouble is, that the current package deliberately transmits
passwords in clear text - so I wouldn't worry too much about reputation.
In it's current state this piece of software is a potential security
risk, as users are encouraged to transmit passwords in cleartext - in
these days, support for
On Sun, 25 May 2008 13:11:29 -
AZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @Jean-Yves Lefort: Thanks for pointing out that this patch is not yet perfect
> ;). But apart from the mistakes I corrected,
> most of the gnutls related code is rather
> almost copy&paste from gnutl
On Sun, 25 May 2008 02:44:03 -
Peter Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 00:30 +, Jean-Yves Lefort wrote:
> > Distributors: please do not ship a MN package with this patch applied.
> > Its quality is rather questionable, and I do not want my reputation to
> > be dama
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