[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-07-08 Thread Richard Laager
** Changed in: bluefish (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151140 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing li

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Thanks for popping up Olivier, if, once started, you could give me an URL of the discussion so that we can keep track of it from here, that would be neat. -- bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151140 You received this bug notification because you ar

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Olivier Sessink
Daniel asked me to respond to this issue as lead developer for Bluefish. The reason for this user interface design choice is that the text area is the most important area for bluefish. Since bluefish has multiple toolbars, tabs etc. these all reduce the size available for the text area. Using both

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Richard Laager
I'm going to do some more research on this. Which of the following is the desired upstream behavior? 1. To always use "icons only" 2. To make "icons only" the *default* everywhere (even in GNOME with the system setting set to something else) 3. To make "icons only" the *default* in al

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
>They shouldn't override their toolkit's default settings without a good reason Why not? Its their application and they wanted it to behave like this. Are they not compliant with GTK style guidelines or any other applicable specification? >I don't think we should go actively searching for them, b

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Daniel Leidert
@Richard Laager: You expect that a system setting, that is clearly a GNOME setting, has an effetc on non-GNOME applications? So following this argument, KDE applications also have to respect this setting. I'm sorry, but it doesn't make sense to me. BTW: You compare supporting *GTK* themes with su

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Richard Laager
> Any argument why they should (beside the fact that it is possible)? They shouldn't override their toolkit's default settings without a good reason. Is there any reason they should in this case "(beside the fact that it is possible)"? > Do you think we should patch all GTK applications in univer

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-06 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
The answer from upstream is quite clear: "I won't do" Any argument why they should (beside the fact that it is possible)? Do you think we should patch all GTK applications in universe to make them respect the Gnome settings, even when they have been clearly not been designed this way? I use blu

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-05 Thread Richard Laager
I don't really care about GTK vs. GNOME vs. whatever here. This bug is for Ubuntu, not the upstream app. The setting is in System -> Preferences -> Appearance. That implies it affects the appearance of everything on the system. I'm well aware of the "This is a GTK+ app, not a GNOME app." argument.

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-05 Thread Daniel Leidert
And why should a *GTK*-based application "respect" a *GNOME" feature? Can you pint me to your argument? GTK is not GNOME. You are free to port bluefish toolbars to optionally use GNOME features. I won't do. -- bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1511

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-05 Thread Richard Laager
I've filed a bug on Ubuntu. Things in Ubuntu should be consistent. It should be possible for a non-GNOME app using GTK+ to honor this setting. ** Changed in: bluefish (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => Confirmed -- bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bug

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2008-03-05 Thread Cesare Tirabassi
Marking it invalid on the base of developer's comment. ** Changed in: bluefish (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/151140 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 151140] Re: bluefish doesn't honor the GNOME toolbar settings.

2007-10-10 Thread Daniel Leidert
Of course. Bluefish is an independent application (that just uses some GNOME libraries). Changing the GNOME setting does not have any effect on Bluefish, because it does not contain this functionality. And to my knowledge, nobody ever requested to show icons, text or both (I guess, that's waht you