Hello,
I would like to lead your attention to a chess database program I have
developed called RChess.
What I wanted to achieve is that I can develop an opening repertoire, which
is not stored in games. Also I wanted to have the information visible
whenever I have a position on the board refe
Hello Fulvio,
you are right, pre move comments make sense only in certain situations. In a
normal case without variations you cannot even decide whether a comment is a
pre- or post move one.
But I can make my point more obvious:
1. e4 d6 2. d4 Nf6 3. Nc3 g6 {This is a bad move because the
id-users] reply
So could someone please paste some PGN example that can't be imported in
SCID without information loss right now?
Than you.
Jens
On 11/26/2015 09:50 PM, Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
> Hello,
>
> problem is not what SCID should allow. You want to import commen
Hello,
problem is not what SCID should allow. You want to import commented games
from other formats and they allow it.
It is not so clear what the PGN-Standard says about comments. But its de
facto standard allows comments before and after moves. So when it is used in
games information is
The opening is determined by playing a game backward. The first classified
position found in the game determines the opening. For something usable you
need probably > 1000 of these positions.
Nf3 d5 c4 is not Reti, if for example white plays d4 somewhere in the next
moves.
Ge
and use the
position search mechanism instead. Performance of computers grew much faster
than the number of games in databases and so searching the games for a
position is much faster than searching in opening trees.
I am sure no "Profi" is using ECO anymore.
Gerd
Hello,
I have no problem if the initial loading time of a large database takes time
as long as I can then work efficiently. There is no difference to Chessbase
where the first open of the tree takes time. But with Chessbase the tree
data sometimes disappears and you have to restart to get
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Von: Fulvio [mailto:f...@libero.it]
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2013 10:33
An: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Testing
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
>
>
> So when looking for openings, or an opponent I would like to have at
> the sam
. Januar 2013 23:40
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Testing
On 01/03/13 14:27, Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
[ ... ] No alternative for Chessbase, no functionality to
manage large databases and to allow efficient usage of its content.
This is a most strange
Hello,
I do not think that bad documentation is the major problem of scid. I cannot
remember looking into documentation of Chessbase.
Problem with scid is that it implements thousands of features all of them
working sometimes and somehow and sharing some code. There is no clear
concept any
Hello,
I had a look into my source. There is no initDbFilter called in sc_search of
my code and Bens usecase works with my version. I do not know who did put it
there (I hope not me...). It is definitely wrong and can simply be removed.
Looking to the history shows that originally initDbF
s in.
Gerd
Von: gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de [mailto:gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. Oktober 2011 13:53
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Steven'; 'Philipp Enöckl'; 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: Re: [Scid-users] Bugreport Board Search
I will have a look, but this may take some time, as I am busy at the moment.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Steven [mailto:stevena...@yahoo.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Oktober 2011 19:26
An: Philipp Enöckl
Cc: Scid Users List
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Bugreport Board Searc
Hello,
I assume you refer to the game list window. If you instead mean the best
games window rewritten by Fulvio, it is another story.
Before these changes and also now you could sort only using the
mantenance window. This does a physical resort of the base. No way back
to the original ord
implement bullet 2 and 3 and the switching of bases, if there are
volunteers for the other ones.
Gerd
Am 29.06.2011 4:03, schrieb Fulvio:
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
Hello,
I had a look. sc_base_gameslist assumes that dbFilter and treeFilter are
always initialized. This is wrong with the
Hello Steven,
I could reproduce your bug report. Thank you for your note. I thought I had
fixed this one before, so I have to check what goes wrong. The change was not a
small one so it is not unexpected if there are still bugs in use cases, which
have no use...
There is a tradeoff between inc
>>> BTW: your addition of best games to the database
>>> switcher. I'm not sure that this is sensible all the
>>> time. I admit that I use the switcher just for what its
>>> name says: switching databases. For this reason I'd like
>>> to have a _small_ window. Usually it's 2x2 bases not
>>> larger
Hello,
the new widget has in addition to its internal functionality other
advantages. For example it can be docked, what the old best games window did
not allow. It seems also no problem that multiple instances can exist at the
same time. So my question is why to connect it hardcoded to e.
Hello,
I just did a first test of the new code. I like the new window. It looks
like actual technology and not something from the last century. I hope
somebody will follow and give the tree window the same format.
I have some notes:
When you have a tree window open, which is disabled, and
Hello
First to the chess question. I think there are no optimal values for
interesting games. When I look the first time for a new system I am
first interested in commented games. They may be opening surveys, with
short main variation, no rating etc. Next are the games of the stronget
player
lateron the games in the
gamelist will always follow his sorting criteria.
Gerd
- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
Von: Fulvio
Gesendet: 25.02.11 15:59 Uhr
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Betreff: Re: AW: [Scid-users] Sorting by variations patch
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
>
> I will continue to work
database.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 24. Februar 2011 21:04
An: Fulvio
Cc: Scid Users List; Gerd Lorscheid
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Sorting by variations patch
On 02/22/11 16:03, Fulvio
Hello,
I am sorry! I will have a look. But it will take some days, because the code
has changed a bit and needs to be adapted.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011 18:32
An: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.ne
Gesendet: 22.02.11 08:00 Uhr
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Sorting by variations patch
>The appended small 12-line patch allows to sort bases also by variation count
>and comment count from the maintenance window.
Seems to work here. On the surface it sounds like one of
those u
Hello,
The appended small 12-line patch allows to sort bases also by variation
count and comment count from the maintenance window.
I remember a discussion whether to allow column sorting in the game list
window. When sorting a base it is now done in three steps. In the firs
Hello,
I think the clipboard plays a special role as a in memory database. But
using a chess database it is a usual task to copy a subset of games from
other databases to the clipboard, work with them and remove them from the
clipboard. So getting lots of warnings would be boring.
Chessbase ha
_INDENT_COMMENTS, so Latex is not involved.
Gerd
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Montag, 31. Januar 2011 22:53
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Strange format in pgn window
On 01/31/2011 10:31
Hello,
the if condition in the following piece of code in game.cpp
// Modification to remove extra lines
if (CurrentPos->GetToMove() == WHITE)
tb->PrintString ("");
has the following really unique format
Hi,
with button number 4 from the right over the board to end the try modus, you
get them back.
Gerd
Von: Esteban Cervetto [mailto:estebancs...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 29. Januar 2011 19:54
An: SCID Users
Betreff: [Scid-users] "try variation" remove annotations
hi
"try v
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/SourceForge-schaltet-Server-nach-Einb
ruch-ab-1179409.html
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Freitag, 28. Januar 2011 09:23
An: Fulvio
Cc: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re
at Scid startup or open of this base.
Gerd
- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -
Von: Fulvio
Gesendet: 25.01.11 10:45 Uhr
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Best Games List/Games list + Filter interaction was:
Potential data loss using trees
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Wha
Hello,
as I understand there is something like the following structure in the air:
tcl-layerlist windows tree statistic window
|\ / |
| \ /|
|\/
our suggestion does not resolve the problem above.
>
>After tree completion I am still sent back at game#1 of dBase.
>
>But there /is/ a change:
>
>When I exit Scid at this point, Scid produces an "unsaved game warning"
>and it appears that my new game is not ent
sprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 20:25
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Scid-users] Potential data loss using trees
On 01/22/2011 07:33 PM, Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
Hi!
>
more than 20
times in the tcl code, so volunteers are searched to have a look for each of
them and then the problem is gone.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Samstag, 22. Januar 2011 19:15
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: &
mstag, 22. Januar 2011 12:35
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Potential data loss using trees
Hi,
I suggest we analyze this issue a bit further...
On 10/08/2010 06:20 PM, Joost 't Hart wrote:
> Hi!
>
> [Linux, CVS]
>
> 1a) Open a dbase
Hello,
at the end of ::tree::dorefresh you find the following code:
# if the Tree base is not the current one, updates the Tree base to the
first game in filter : that way it is possible to
# directly generate an opening report for example
if {$baseNumber != [sc_base current] } {
Hi,
I want to switch between databases with one mouse-click. This may be no
"standard", but sorry I cannot live without it. I want to see how many games
are filtered in a database without any click. I want to drag and drop
databases to copy games instead of ... hmm ... what is here the "standard"?
Hello,
so things become clearer. Alexander and Steven are multi-window user and
Joost and me are single window user. Steven wants to connect the switcher to
the game list. For me as single window user it is connected anyway. But
there is a problem for multi. The switcher is also related to
Hello,
here you can see the difference how we work.
When I prepare an opening I load a new game, and play the moves of the
opening. At the same time I follow in the game window the matching games.
There might be a well commented one, a game of a good player playing the
same kind of positio
as long as the filter was enabled (the tree
window open). Only decoupling helps.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Januar 2011 23:35
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re:
Hello,
you cannot move forward and backward, but you can enter moves. So the
program behaves correct.
Currently the tree filter is still active, if the tree window is disabled.
It is just not updated. It may be a better idea it close the filter and
recreate it when the window is enabled ag
Hello,
this here is really funny to read. There are no copyrights on chess games. So
what you can do is order Bigbase for 50 Euro from Chessbase and you have pretty
good edited 4.500.000 games. Bigbase has no annotations, which have copyrights.
You can convert them to .si4 and distribu
Hello,
this here is really funny to read. There are no copyrights on chess games. So
what you can do is order Bigbase for 50 Euro from Chessbase and you have pretty
good edited 4.500.000 games. Bigbase has no annotations, which have copyrights.
You can convert them to .si4 and distribut
Hello,
I did not care about %3 or anything else. I removed the variable
ProbeCounts, which caused the overflow. It was used for debugging only.
In a second step I cleaned the code from unused stuff not aware that there
is an external tool scidlet using it. This is removed until scidlet is
Hi,
you still have the problem, that two users on two systems enter the same
game. Now these two games are duplicates viewed from their internal database
ids, but not for me. Unique IDs in databases are mainly useful to allow
quick referencing inside of the database. What we would need and
Hello,
I checked the following: Open a large database, select a game with a known
player, click on tools->player information, click on player report and select
the player.
The program runs into trouble, because the heap is overwritten by somebody when
the report is generated
Hello,
unique IDs to ensure a *high-quality* cannot be achieved. How should the ID
be calculated? Experience shows that any attributes of a game can be
inconsistent: names, location, date, result and even moves. So the only
solution is to have smart duplicate checking. Scid has one 60 time
e used only for debugging purposes.
Compiled with optimizing the language variable is 18 bytes behind
ProbeCounts, so there is a major discrepancy between expected and real
value.
I will prepare a patch to clean this up.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mai
Hello,
the scid binary I am compiling for myself with VisualStudio and optimizing
enabled likes to crash when I navigate through a game with variations and
then click on a move in the pgn window.
What I found is that the global language variable is overwritten by the
engine code. Next the
endet: Samstag, 1. Januar 2011 13:18
An: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] [Bug!] Scid crashes upon click-player-name in game
info window
On 01/01/2011 12:55 PM, Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
Hello,
I had sent a fix to Alexander. If anybody else wants to check it in.
Hello,
I had sent a fix to Alexander. If anybody else wants to check it in.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Joost 't Hart [mailto:joost.t.h...@planet.nl]
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Januar 2011 12:46
An: Scid Users List
Betreff: [Scid-users] [Bug!] Scid crashes upon click-
Hello,
interesting would be to know what the compatibility problems on Unix/Mac
are. I think it is not necessary to get Crtl-C to work. There are a lot of
examples where Scid could ease daily work by providing often recurring tasks
through context menus. One example was the annotation of moves wit
Hi,
have a look to:
http://scidb.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/scidb/
The last check-in was today, but the content is more or less only copied
libraries. There is nothing the screenshots could be based on. So I guess we
will see a lot of further delay announcements during the next years.
Hello,
just a few notes about Chessbase compared to Scid. Finding duplicate games in
Chessbase takes 60 times more time than in Scid. During this time (6 hours) no
access in Chessbase and no possibility to start another instance of it.
Compacting the database the same. Basically every n
Hello,
I have implemented what you would like to see and sent a patch to Alexander.
Now filters for the tree and the database are separated, so they do not
overwrite each other.
In the tree statistics you see all results matching the tree filter. In the
game listing you see all games matching bot
reading input are not necessary anymore, because it
is handled then in the background.
Regards,
Gerd Lorscheid
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ll no longer run on
> this platform. Are there other (linux based) platforms supporting it or does
> this mean that this is the end of the story?
> Regards,
> Gerd Lorscheid
>
>
> --
>
>
Hello,
with the change of Windows Mobile 6.5 to 7 I guess scid will no longer run on
this platform. Are there other (linux based) platforms supporting it or does
this mean that this is the end of the story?
Regards,
Gerd Lorscheid
is used.
I do not know what the intention for this dubious line of code was as
clear() was called next to it, but whoever introduced it should rethink.
Regards,
Gerd Lorscheid
.
Regards,
Gerd
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. September 2010 20:40
An: 'Gerd Lorscheid'; scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: AW: Search headers
Hello,
I have i
remained unchanged. I save a lot of time when I start
to develop only for private use, so I would like to know it in advance.
Regards,
Gerd Lorscheid
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Hello,
I have implemented another small improvement:
Today if a user wants to replace a ? by a ! he has to open or find the
comment window, remove the ?, add the ! and then to save it.
I have added options to the context menu of the pgn window so that for the
same use case
Hello Steven,
thank you for your work. I needed some time to verify your patch file as the
patch command of the MKS Tools did not work. So I patched the original
source using a Unix live CD. If I specify Anand as annotator I get around
400 games with his comments. I have tried to work arou
Hi,
when starting to implement I found the searched option under "find games
with flags", where I for understandable reasons never searched them.
Gerd
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. September
rview and background
information. I did not find a possibility to search/filter for annotated
games. There seems also no other way except scrolling through the list
window.
So I will have a look how to add this option.
Regards,
Von: Fulvio [mailto:f...@libero.it]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. September 2010 15:11
An: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Some thoughts about filters
gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de wrote:
My proposal was that for each database the game listing window can have its ow
Hello,
Having multiple Scid running does not solve the issues. Pain point is the reset
of the filter after each move on the board and how to limit statistics.
I think that there is no real redesign necessary and it also should not
generate that many bugs.
The algorithms n
there is an agreement to go for this and somebody updates the UI parts,
I will try to
update the C++ parts.
Comments are wellcome
Gerd Lorscheid
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Hello,
I have again some remarks - without source code. But for this I have an
excuse, because my notebook has been stolen and I will have a
development environment not before end of next month. But so I was
forced to use Scid for the tournament I played. But the first I promise
to implement
hen I open scid
from another environment, then open this database and compact it, the game
is deleted. The bug may be related that some metadata is stored in the
original environment which leads to the failure.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:gerd.lor
on capabilities...
This with Darwin may be right. But I guess you don't want to find out who
will be the last (and only) one still using Scid.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni
wizard at the first startup which queries the needs of the user and
setting up more complex environments.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2010 23:07
An: 'Alexander Wagner'
Cc:
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2010 22:46
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] Usablity issues
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
Hi!
> I finished too early.
and with chess databases. But
I wish that Scid does not loose so many potential users, which try it once
and then never again.
Gerd Lorscheid
Von: Gerd Lorscheid [mailto:gerd.lorsch...@onlinehome.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 30. Juni 2010 21:30
An: 'scid-
op it with help of the task-manager.
Usability of Chessbase in many areas is bad, it does also not follow
standards. But usability of Scid is even worse. I think it would help the
project much more to improve here than adding feature after feature.
Gerd Lors
Hello,
I have adapted for myself the makefile.vc and the source with few #ifdefs to
build it with the Visual Studio nmake. If there are more interested people
it may make sense to merge it into the code stream. Until now I had no time
to create a visual studio project out of it, which was
Hello,
instead of compiling new sources why not export the tournament data in XML
with reference to a default stylesheet. Then anybody can update the
stylesheet to create his own visual format without changing compiled code.
Gerd
Von: Steven [mailto
Hello,
it is useless to save settings for base 1 or base 2, but why not save them
for the file system path of the database. So they are reused when the
database is opened again. This brings me back to the point that it would be
helpful if scid is able to reopen databases at star
same games with different annotators I do not
like at all. You lose the context of the comments. Chessbase claims to be
able to do this but the results are messy.
Gerd Lorscheid
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Benoit St-Pierre [mailto:benbon...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 8
Hello,
a chess game is (hopefully a logical flow). It does not help me to
understand a game, if I check only my moves. I have also to understand where
my opponent missed chances. So I even do not understand the options to
analyze a game from one side.
Also it does not save much
Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid Users List'
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users] SCID books/trees compared to Rybka Aquarium
Gerd Lorscheid wrote:
Hi!
> Aquarium and there IDEA use a different database format. It stores not
> games but positions plus e.g. evaluations.
This, however, sound quite si
Hi,
Aquarium and there IDEA use a different database format. It stores not games
but positions plus e.g. evaluations. Without this IDEA is hard to implement
and even with such a database format the algorithm has to be implemented.
Gerd
Von: Marcel Dan [m
problem. So it remains that the top games list should contain more infos.
Gerd
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2009 20:10
An: Gerd Lorscheid
Cc: 'Scid'
Betreff: Re: [Scid-users]
ndard annotations (Chess-Informant symbols) in PGN as
something like "$12". When converting to si3 these comments are not
converted. So a lot of very valuable information is lost.
Gerd Lorscheid
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I just found what I need for my usecase. If I open my reference database as
tree I can open the "Show best games list" through a small button at the
bottom. Then I can switch back to my anaysis game in a different database,
move pieces, access and merge games through the top game window.
I am using
Hello Pascal,
I am sorry but I cannot follow you. The use case I described is basic to
annotate a game or keep own opening analysis up to date. It is also very
natural to store the own analysis not in a growing reference database with
more than 1.000.000 games, but in a separat
even recover
"unsaved" games. This would allow me to continue working at the point I have
stopped before and it would be a nice feature compared to chessbase.
Gerd Lorscheid
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