Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-15 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dmitry Melekhov Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where? Dan Bar Dov wrote: BTW, I talked directly with a SuSE distributor regarding their SLES product, same concept as

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-15 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Dan Bar Dov wrote: BTW, I talked directly with a SuSE distributor regarding their SLES product, same concept as AS, and he confirmed my ideas. You pay for the services, you are allowed to do with the software whatever you want. Sorry, you are wrong :-( They also force you to buy "service" on

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Roger wrote: This means you cannot install it on multiple servers from the CDs you received when you buy a subscription, without licensing the additional servers. As you are free to 'roll your own' version of Advanced Server, it is quite acceptable to have one server that is licensed from CDs and

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
or Service per Installed Server, pay a penalty equal to twenty percent (20%) of the underreported fees. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dmitry Melekhov Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: A

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Roger wrote: The reason for wanting to subscribe for the SRPMS is for some level of service in receiving the SRPMS as quickly as possible after a security release. Although Red Hat makes the SRPMS publicly available on updates.redhat.com, they may choose to delay the release of them except for th

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Roger wrote: I disagree with you too :-) Original post says that one want to buy subscription to one server and then install updates from sources to several servers. This is impossible according to Service Agreement. You must pay for service for all servers. If you can't read this is not my proble

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Roger wrote: I do not think it is possible to distribute these ISOs outside my organisation as it will violate Red Hat's trademarks, however it is quite easy to create your own version, I may publish some instructions on how I did it if people are interested. Yes, this is interesting :-) -- r

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Dan Bar Dov wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 6:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where? According to http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhlas_us.html

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-14 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Dan Bar Dov wrote: -Original Message- If so, I guess I'll have to purchase one subscription just to ^ get the SRPMS from RHN, which I then have it automatically build the RPM and distributed to my other servers.

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-13 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
- Original Message - From: "Dan Bar Dov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:36 AM Subject: RE: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where? > > > > > > > > If so, I guess I'll have to purchase one subscription just to get > the > > > SRPMS from

Re: Advanced Server 2.1 update SRPMS - where?

2003-01-12 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Roger wrote: I have recently created my own version of Advanced Server 2.1 using the SRPMS that Red Hat have made available and intend on using it on a few dozen servers. I have noticed that so far this year, 8 security packages for AS 2.1 have been released, but none of the SRPMS have yet appear

Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses?

2003-01-04 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Ben Russo wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 13:56, Michael Schwendt wrote: . Unless, of course, you rolled your own updates or applied the binary software updates also in the second firm, which would be illegal with regard to the licence agreement. ... OK, (I originally started this thread wi

Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses?

2003-01-03 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
- Original Message - From: "Michael Schwendt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 3 Jan 20

Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses?

2003-01-03 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
- Original Message - From: "Michael Schwendt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses? > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 3 Jan 20

Re: Open Source Licensed RHAS, licenses?

2003-01-03 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
According to www.redha.com/licenses you can copy RH AS and do as much installation as you want. But according to Service Agreement you have to pay for server year. I.e. you can do what you want without support or pay per server/year for each server. The same story is with Suse SLES, but they even d

Re: slow performance on RH advanced Srv 2.1

2002-12-13 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Hello! Unfortunately, 2.4 -aa VM is not good too. Personally I never had problems with 2.4 VM, but we run Oracle for not more than 30 users, but I see that there are VM problems with 2.4.18 kernels (kswap eats too much cpu), this is why now I test rmap VM. But I know guys which wanted to run Oracl

Re: RH AS subscription license

2002-11-24 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
- Original Message - From: "R P Herrold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 4:24 AM Subject: Re: RH AS subscription license > On 23 Nov 2002, Jeff Bearer wrote: > > > AFAIK, One of the reasons they don't distribute ISO's of AS online is > > ther

Re: RH AS subscription license

2002-11-24 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
e much of a > problem with that. but you will only have support on one. > Thank you! You tell me what I wanted to hear ;-) Let's compare this with Suse position: - Original Message - From: "Michael Hasenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Dmitry Melekhov&qu

RH AS subscription license

2002-11-23 Thread Dmitry Melekhov
Hello! Could someone help me to understand RH AS subsciption licensing? As I understanded from here http://www.redhat.com/software/whichlinux.html RH AS 2.1 is completely covered by GPL. There are srpms of distribution and updates on ftp.redhat.com (great!). But if I'll buy one box with CDs can