On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:16:32 -0800, Alan Meyer wrote:
> In the meantime, I'm wondering if I can work around the problem.
There's an easy work-around. Just type a pattern into the Group Name
box which includes the group you want but not too many others. There's
no need to open the Other Groups t
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:17:41 +0530, arnuld uttre wrote:
> If I install the newer pcre in /usr/local , will it break my existing
> system.
No. The old version will remain, and old programs that used it will
continue to use the old version. Only programs compiled in the
future will use the new li
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:03:39 +, Duncan wrote:
> "arnuld uttre"
> posted
> 3a97b5b90901090214r5c618f33p9d3bde5939fc0...@mail.gmail.com,
> excerpted below, on Fri, 09 Jan 2009 15:44:03 +0530:
>
>> I am trying to compile latest stable pan but getting make error with
>> libiconv.
...
>
> The r
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:50:21 +, Duncan wrote:
> Rick Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> excerpted below, on Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:48:21 -0800:
>
>> Server settings and posting profiles were fine, even all the messages
>> in the subscribed groups remained, just not their s
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:08:48 +, Duncan wrote:
> But there's not an ethical requirement. That's what I've been saying.
...
> Requiring, either ethically or legally, that they use a particular name,
> is quite something else, and that makes it unfree, whether that
> requirement is legal or jus
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:16:48 +, Duncan wrote:
> The same principle applies in all three
> cases, regardless of whether it's a legal requirement or whether it's
> simply a claim of an ethical/moral requirement, which if not met is a
> wrong that an attempt must be made to right.
So, let me see
On Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:34:55 +, Duncan wrote:
> As for credit, yes, they deserve and get credit for the apps they
> created. Great. But insisting on ranking one's own credit so highly
> for a collected work, as with the SugarCRM license, simply wouldn't and
> couldn't work if everyone were t
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:39:38 +, Yavor Doganov wrote:
> Sure, everyone is entitled to their own opinion -- I suggest you to read
> the GNU/Linux FAQ for common irrational arguments of the people who
> insist calling the system "Linux".
I've just done as you suggested, but I don't find in the F
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 20:58:00 +0400, Роман Донченко wrote:
> pan/general/file-util.h (revision 362) +++ pan/general/file-util.h
> (working copy) @@ -35,6 +35,12 @@
> extern "C" {
>#include
> }
> +
> +#if !GLIB_CHECK_VERSION(2,8,0)
> +#define g_chmod chmod
> +#else
> +
> +#else // fall
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:16:30 +0400, Роман Донченко wrote:
>> These define statements are in the scope of
>> #if defined(G_OS_UNIX) && !defined(G_STDIO_NO_WRAP_ON_UNIX)
>> so they have effect only when compiling for MS Windows, essentially.
>
> In Glib code, yes. In Pan code, no. In fact, there'r
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:05:46 +0400, Роман Донченко wrote:
> #define g_fopen fopen
> This apparently has the intent of replacing the C functions with Glib
> functions when they are available, except... it's very broken because
> the #define arguments are in the wrong order. So even if you use Gli
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:40:53 +, Beartooth wrote:
> The only problem, which I'm trying to deal with at last, is that
> the native xterm default settings (in Fedora on all my machines, at
> least) make it tiny and its font illegibly so; ...
I have a Fedora 6 installation here, and I did a
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:48:00 +0400, Roman wrote:
> (You don't maintain that the early messages are _stored_ as UTF-8,
> right?)
I haven't said anything about how your messages were stored
on some server. But now you mention it, the early messages might
well have been transliterated from Latin1 t
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:29:16 +0400, Roman wrote:
>> But this one must have been transliterated, at some point. Because it's
>> UTF8 to me.
>
> Gee, that's because I explicitly set it, as well as every next post, to
> be in UTF-8. Nobody is secretly transliterating anything.
>
> Can we wrap this
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:47:46 +0400, Roman wrote:
> Check
> out the one with the alphabet, as well as the OP. I definitely don't see
> "UTF-8" in any of those.
Right. The original posting with the alphabet has:
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original
But t
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:53:08 +0400, Roman wrote:
>>> АБВГДЕЁЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯ
>>
>> It looks fine. Apparently it somehow got transliterated to UTF8
>> Cyrillic.
>
> Why no, it's just marked properly, whereas previous posts weren't:
It must be UTF8 by the time I see it on my screen and
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:37:07 +0400, Roman wrote:
>> I don't know how this will look on your screen, but the word looks to
>> me like a mess of vowels with diacritics. Did George do some hand-
>> transcription, or did his system do some translation that my system
>> failed to? I'm just curious wh
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:39:01 -0700, walt wrote:
> Duncan wrote:
>> "Roman"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Thu, 04 Sep
>> 2008 19:56:25 +0400:
>>
Did you post this in UTF-8 or KO18-R? Using UTF-8, it doesn't decode
probably.
>>> Foiled again! But le
On Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:36:33 -0500, George Sherwood wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:21:52 +0400
> "Roman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> > Correct. The Cyrillic spelling for "Administrator", according to the
>> > few bits of Russian I had in school.
>>
>> Correct. I'll post in UTF-8 this time, t
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:30:50 +, Duncan wrote:
> Maurice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> ...
>> ( Frequently freezing ('Program not responding'), or refusing to post
>> or to read new. Sometimes Header pane goes blank, though 'n' shows next
>> msg.)
>
> That's interesting. I keep pan open for da
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:04:39 +0200, Beso wrote:
> I use the amd64 system with multilib
> enabled, since i use some firefox-bin, openoffice-bin, mplayer-bin and
> mplayerplug-in compiled with ABI=x86.
I also keep the 32 bit part of my system for the sake of Firefox
and Openoffice binaries. For on
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:26:39 +, Duncan wrote:
> ... More likely, he compiled it
> himself (as Gentooers generally do), but then upgraded something, the
> environment moved out from under the pan package he'd built, ...
Oh, I see. This never happens to me, because I never
remove anything. We
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:56:56 -0700, stan wrote:
> Is there a way to completely reset a group so Pan never knew it was ever
> there (no memory of headers seen or articles downloaded)?
Did you try Groups > Delete Selected Group's Headers? Then
get them again. (There will still be a memory of art
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:30:12 +, Beso wrote:
> hi, i've just updated to pan 0.133 and now i get the error of missing
> /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6. the problem is that this file seems to be
> libstdc++ 3.4. i'm on gentoo unstable. is there anyone who can help
> out?! maybe duncan...
>
> thanks
Yo
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:37:10 +0100, Mel wrote:
> During header downloads Pan pauses the download after x thousand headers
> and CPU usage jumps to 100%. After 5 - 10 mins CPU usage drops off and
> several thousand more headers are download. Each time the delay between
> downloads increases.
>
> C
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:41:33 +, Duncan wrote:
> I'm guessing what you failed to realize is
> that pan only loads the file at pan start, and rewrites the file when
> it's shutdown. Naturally, therefore, if you edited the file
> (effectively behind pan's back) while pan was open, all your chan
On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 13:19:33 -0400, Timothy J. Hamilton wrote:
> After exiting Pan, when I check the server connections in "edit news
> servers", Pan shows a maximum of 4 connections. Further, when I reopen
> servers.xml after closing Pan, the connection limit in servers.xml is
> reset to 4.
Tha
On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:13:47 -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> where would this servers.xml file be located?
Mine is ~/.pan2/servers.xml (where ~ refers to my
home directory). I am running pan2, which I got by compiling
the source code downloaded with the command:
svn checkout http://svn.gnome.org/sv
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:32:34 +, Matthijs Benschop wrote:
> Btw, I always get segfault when closing 'post article' window and when
> expanding the group list in the left pane...
I also get a fault when I attempt to expand the unsubscribed group list.
That has happened ever since I started usin
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:46:32 +, Duncan wrote:
> GL's suggestion, I think, was that it was just taking the time to sort
> all those headers, and there wasn't a lot that could be done about it.
Yes, I think Pan needs the time, but that doesn't quite mean there's
no fix. If the problem is the
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:35:26 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> Better, of course, would be to say, "Look, lady, in that context, it's
> not a preposition, it's a particle and there's nothing wrong with ending
> a sentence with a particle. You are right, however, that it's wrong, a
> sentence to end, a pr
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:31:26 +, walt wrote:
> 4. (Gram.) The noun to which a relative refers; as, in the
> sentence "Solomon was the prince who built the temple," prince is the
> antecedent of who.
> [1913 Webster]
That is not a great definition for grammatical antecedent,
since it (the de
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:35:51 +, walt wrote:
> I'm sure you are exactly right, but just what is that busy computation?
Who cares? That's not where the bug is. The bug is that I can't go
ahead and use pan for doing things which don't depend on the results
of the computation.
--
Greg
On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:58:21 +, walt wrote:
> ... Because pan is stuck in a loop somewhere, ...
In my opinion, you guys are spinning your wheels. Because pan
is not stuck (if I'm talking about the same bug as you are);
it's just taking a long time. And there is nothing abnormal
about it ta
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:39:03 -0700, David Shochat wrote:
> ... When getting new
> headers in a large binary group, (either as a result of entering, or
> after invoking Groups->Get Headers...), the progress indicator goes
> normally for a while (10 sec. or so) and then it stops. At this point,
> to
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:17:22 -0700, David Shochat wrote:
> What OS, distro (if Linux), etc.? I'm wondering if it's an Ubuntu
> problem. Also, does top show pan at close to 100% during your 3 minutes?
> -- David
I have Linux, distribution Fedora Core 6, though I have
made some changes, e.g., gtk
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:39:03 -0700, David Shochat wrote:
> When getting new
> headers in a large binary group, (either as a result of entering, or
> after invoking Groups->Get Headers...), the progress indicator goes
> normally for a while (10 sec. or so) and then it stops. At this point,
> top sa
If anyone was hesitating, I thought it might help to tell you
that I just compiled version 0.133 from the subversion
repo with absolutely no issues, and I'm using it to post
this message. I'm on a Linux system (Fedora 6) with some updates,
and I had previously been using version 0.132 with a couple
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:41:34 -0700, Travis wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "walt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
> Sent: Wednesday,
> July 30, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: [Pan-users] Hey panfans, check my headers
>
>
>> And if you have no idea what I'm talking about, you may want to check
>> h
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:36:46 +, walt wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:32:46 -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
>
> I have no idea why people want even that many connections, so I'm hoping
> someone here can explain it to both of us.
I have mine set to 8. Judging from what I see in the task bar, the
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:22:02 +0100, Rhialto wrote:
> Radius is an authentication server.
Right, and it's a MS Windows thing, of some sort. Probably
it manages passwords, or something similar. (I know almost
nothing about MS Windows.) So a Radius server might be invoked
by some MS Windows-orient
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:42:47 +, Duncan wrote:
> The moral of this point is this: When deleting (rm-ing) anything,
> particularly hidden files, OR when typing in ANY command as root, get in
> the habit of typing in the command but NOT THE ENTER. Then sit on your
> hands a moment, and LOOK CAR
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:07:14 +, walt wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:39:25 -0400, Dave Chand wrote:
>
>> On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:58 PM, Greg Lee wrote:
>>
>>> I looked at some other 1 part images in this same newsgroup and found
>>> that all those with byt
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:11:19 -0400, Dave Chand wrote:
> Is it a pan bug or a gtk bug? Please let us know what Matthias has to
> say about this.
I guess that's going to be a matter of opinion, but mine is
that it's a gtk bug. If the routine gdk_pixbuf_loader_write has
the limitation that it can o
On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:39:25 -0400, Dave Chand wrote:
> I have been experimenting with gdk-pixbuf. What I find is the following:
> in the file gtk+2.12.x/gdk-pixbuf/io-jpeg.c there is the statement
> #define JPEG_PROG_BUF_SIZE 65536
> if you change its value to something significantly higher, such
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:52:10 +, walt wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:32:18 -0700, stevem wrote:
>
>> On Friday 05 October 2007, walt wrote:
>>> ...If you could point me to a sample
>>> post that causes you problems I like to take a look at it.
>
>> ...this one fails:
>>
>> Xref: sn-us alt.b
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:24:04 -0700, stevem wrote:
...
> That doesn't exactly describe my problem. Postings labeled single part
> fail as well. And the body pane isn't blank, the top of the picture
> paints, then the remainder is blank or filled with garbage images.
It is quite possible we're dea
On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:36:07 +, walt wrote:
> If you want to reproduce this drudgery for yourself I'd be happy to give
> you some important details, but in that case maybe we should switch to
> the pan.devel list?
No, but thank you for the kind offer.
--
Greg
_
On Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:40:47 +, walt wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:35:43 -0700, stevem wrote:
>
>> Sometime in the last week pan stopped perviewing binary images. The
>> body pane shows just the top half or so of most images I download. I
>> haven't upgraded pan lately so I suspect a librar
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:00:00 +, SciFi wrote:
> Nothing wrong with discussing bugs here, except that I for one do not
> have time to "CC" your words you write here over to the bugzilla report,
> that's your responsibility
I just added to bug 477860 report this comment:
I see this bug, and I'
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:51:50 +, walt wrote:
> Sorry, this works normally for me. Here's what I see with grep:
> newsgroups.xov:gmane.comp.video.transcode.user 20777 20776 1:20852
> newsrc-1:gmane.comp.video.transcode.user! 20840
>
> Do you have the same entries in your ~/.pan2 for that group?
Can anyone confirm these?
Bug A.
With View->Layout set to Tabbed Layout
and assuming you haven't subscribed to
gmane.comp.video.transcode.user:
1. Click on Header Pane.
2. Type "transcode" into the group selection box.
3. Click on the Group Pane.
You see two groups,
4. Click on gmane.comp.video.
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:14:47 +, SciFi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:35:43 -0700, stevem wrote:
>>
>> Sometime in the last week pan stopped perviewing binary images. The
>> body pane shows just the top half or so of most images I download. I
...
>
> Please check bugzilla, that's wh
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:02:23 -0700, Travis wrote:
> Why would one subscribe or not to a group based on article count?
It's sort of obvious. If no one else uses a group, what would be
the point of subscribing to it? To talk to yourself?
--
Greg
__
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:47:46 +0200, Aniruddha wrote:
> ... If I understand you correctly I
> select multiple groups in the group pane (with shift) and do a get N (1
> day ) headers? It would be a nice workaround, only it will take
> considerable more time (hours) then the old 'get header count opt
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:44:19 +, walt wrote:
> Did you both build your own pan using a 64-bit compiler, or are you
> running 32-bit pan?
64 bit compiler compiling 64 bit binaries.
> Is your swapspace filling up during the stalls? Disk thrashing? Does
> the filtering always complete if you wa
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:01:16 -0700, Travis wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Lee"
>> Searching headers for a pattern in a high traffic group was extremely
>> time consuming in Tin.
> How many articles in the "high traffic" group?
As
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:04:12 +, Frederik Himpe wrote:
> I cannot really imagine how another application can be still be
> "considerably worse" than this.
Searching headers for a pattern in a high traffic group was extremely
time consuming in Tin. After 15 minutes of my system being almost
c
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:13:57 +, SciFi wrote:
> So, let me go ahead to open a report
> just so we'll have it on record anyway.
I read your comment #7 about clicking on the Subject header
and getting a new sort done on a previously selected
field. Very interesting. My guess is that it's a dat
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:01:59 +, Frederik Himpe wrote:
> I am using x86_64 bit Linux on an Athlon 64 3500.
>
> Any idea how I could debug this?
No, but I do see all these problems, and I'm also
using x86_64 Linux. Before I started using Pan, I was
using Tin, which is considerably worse than
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 17:13:57 +, SciFi wrote:
> I wonder how far back this bug may be seen if no one else is using even
> the latest gtk+-2.11.x release tarballs.
I've been using gtk+-2.11.4/5/6 since June. I haven't seen any sign
of this bug concerning selection of sort columns. I haven't s
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:52:31 +, SciFi wrote:
> There are many such bugs, tho (if that's what they really are). Opening
> a large newsgroup for reading will stop everything as well, for example.
This is different, I think. Starting the external editor doesn't bog
down my computer -- cpu usage
On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:28:31 +, SciFi wrote:
> When I click on the Subject bar atop the header pane, it only ends up
> re-sorting by Date. In fact clicking on _any_ of the header bars like
> that, will only re-sort by Date (increasing or decreasing, each time the
> opposite direction).
I've
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:09:21 +, Duncan wrote:
> This could be useful. Have you filed a feature request bug yet? If
> not, please do, then post the bug number or full URL here, so those that
> wish can comment (effectively vote) on the request.
Now, I have. The bug number is 465818 and the
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:12:20 -0400, Douglas Bollinger wrote:
> Can you post a bug on this?
Okay, it's #465763. I added my opinion that it could be regarded
as documented behavior, if there were a document, and if it were
described in that document.
--
Greg
__
For instance, to keep track of which gmane groups I have
posting rights in, I'd like to make names green.
Thunderbird has a feature like this, except they've invented
attribute names like "work", "important", etc., instead of
just using color words (which I'd prefer).
--
Greg
The title says it. I had the external editor set to gvim, until I
noticed that a background download just stops while gvim is in
use. It's harmless -- the task resumes when gvim exits -- but it
doesn't seem quite right for it to work this way.
--
Greg
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:16:41 -0400, Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote:
...
> Don't know the answer, but I see the same thing.
This happens to me, too. I use Giganews.
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Greg
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Bug #458838 is fixed in svn revision 318, which I guess is Pan version
0.132. I submitted this bug report for Pan 0.131, but no one confirmed
it. Pan would crash when in the paned view (as opposed to the tabbed
view) the little triangle for "Unsubscribed Groups" was clicked on to
display the li
For whatever interest it may have, some logic for interpreting the
symbols MSGFMT and GMSGFMT in my pan2/acinclude.m4, which came from
my /usr/share/acinclude/glib-gettext.m4, which was installed by
glib-2.13.6. (This is not on a Mac.)
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On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:54:25 -0500, Michael Satterwhite wrote:
> I've entered the server
> information - which I know is correct because KNode uses the same info
> perfectly. I tell it to refresh the newsgroup list - which puts a task
> in the list. This is where the problem is. The task shows its
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