Re: [Pan-users] ANN: 0.140 "Chocolate Salty Balls"

2016-03-27 Thread Alan Meyer
and advice have been extremely valuable), and anyone I may have missed for your outstanding service to our computer user community. I use and have benefited from Pan and understand that the benefits I have enjoyed are all thanks to the hard work of volunteers like you. Thank you again. -- Alan Me

Re: [Pan-users] Pan for windows max connections...

2013-12-28 Thread Alan Meyer
lf with large numbers of connections. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] What do the time frames mean on killed authors?

2012-07-11 Thread Alan Meyer
Thanks Duncan.  I appreciate your efforts on behalf of us Pan users. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com > > From: Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> >To: pan-users@nongnu.org >Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 2:19 AM >Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Wh

[Pan-users] What do the time frames mean on killed authors?

2012-07-10 Thread Alan Meyer
g the ones that were previously made invisible?  Or is it just the messages posted after the get out of jail date that become visible? Thanks. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/

[Pan-users] Windows Live Mail - was: Re: Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-05 Thread Alan Meyer
- Original Message > From: Travis > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 7:34:52 PM > Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA > > -Original Message- From: Joe Zeff > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 10:24 PM > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Subject: Re: [Pan-us

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Alan Meyer
;s usually what you have to do when switching between email clients. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Alan Meyer
Rob wrote: > On Monday 04 July 2011 11:42, Alan Meyer wrote: > > Of course in theory, theory and practice are the same. But in > > practice ... maybe I'm totally screwed up here. > > Practically speaking, I hit binsearch.info and found an Ubuntu ISO to test > wit

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-04 Thread Alan Meyer
tions provides a significant advantage. Of course in theory, theory and practice are the same. But in practice ... maybe I'm totally screwed up here. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Policy discussion: GNKSA

2011-07-03 Thread Alan Meyer
. Two or three may be plenty for that. Does someone have data to suggest that there is a real advantage to having more than four connections? -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/m

Re: [Pan-users] Empty posts in Pan?

2011-06-21 Thread Alan Meyer
r I addressed the envelope using an ink pen and hand lettering. Then I licked the back, sealed it, affixed a stamp, and carried it to a mailbox. And now, dear me, I see tar pits yawning on every side and worry about what will happen to my poor eggs if I fall into one of them. -- Al

Re: [Pan-users] Empty posts in Pan?

2011-06-21 Thread Alan Meyer
ISP's news server? That would > explain why it doesn't affect other people? That sounds like a pretty good explanation to me. If the news server is sending bad headers, Knode may be ignoring them but Pan taking them seriously and doing the wrong thing. Can you call or write to th

Re: [Pan-users] Upgrade to Natty Narwhall, still problems

2011-05-09 Thread Alan Meyer
in case, are you sure that your news server didn't stop offering binaries on March 12, 2:41 pm? Or maybe they still offer them but not in the groups you're using? News providers can change their policies sometimes. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com _

Re: [Pan-users] Re: ANN: Pan 0.134 "Wait for Me"

2011-02-23 Thread Alan Meyer
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Duncan wrote: > > Alan Meyer posted on Mon, 21 Feb 2011 10:45:55 -0800 as > > excerpted: > [...] > >> Since I'm paid for the work that I do I have no grounds for > >> complaint. If they want to pay me to do work that they

Re: [Pan-users] Re: ANN: Pan 0.134 "Wait for Me"

2011-02-21 Thread Alan Meyer
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > ... To recognize or fail to recognize the contributions, code > especially but not just code, that one has made, is to pay them > or rob them of their "payment" -- the only payment many > receive. Thus, giving credit where credit is due is a *HUGE* > *DEAL*

Re: [Pan-users] pan uses large amounts of memory

2011-01-28 Thread Alan Meyer
ut it's worth a try. I found that pan behaved very badly in Ubuntu when "Assistive Technologies" Go to System / Preferences / Assistive Technologies. If the checkbox for "Enable assistive technologies" is checked, uncheck it. Then re-open pan and try aga

Re: [Pan-users] Re: [OT] Software politics (was Re: Re: Questions about the next release)

2010-11-13 Thread Alan Meyer
Lacrocivious Acrophosist wrote: ... > Duncan's presence and constancy here is valued by many. ... Count me among them. And he has the most delightful way of sailing above a flame war with nary a feather singed while those below hose each other with napalm. -- Alan Meyer amey...@y

Re: [Pan-users] Re: updated info - O.T.

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Meyer
Steven, Our postings have crossed in the ether. I didn't see this before posting a reply to your last one, and of course you hadn't seen my reply. Steven D'Aprano wrote: > > Perhaps if more of us would transpose remarks like Stallman's, > > substituting our own favorite gender, religion, race,

Re: [Pan-users] Re: updated info

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Meyer
Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... > > http://img341.imageshack.us/i/qsoladvertisementps2.jpg/ > > > > OK, I can see both sides of that one. As a guy, it's amusing, but > > offensive as well, because I can empathize with women. > > Why on earth would it be *offensive*? It's empowering. It's > about a wo

Re: [Pan-users] Re: updated info - O.T.

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Meyer
Petr Kovar wrote: > Duncan, Thu, 5 Aug 2010 06:06:59 + (UTC): > ... > > One of the topics of discussion (and alarm, in some quarters, > > from both sides) in the FLOSS community (various talks at > > conferences, articles on LWN and the like) has been the fact > > that while women /do/ seem t

Re: [Pan-users] Re: updated info - O.T.

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Meyer
Alan Meyer wrote: > ... > I read the exchange between David "Lefty" Schlesinger and Richard > Stallman, and a fair number of the comments. > ... I should have quoted Duncan's citation to this exchange. Here it is: http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/EMACS_virgi

Re: [Pan-users] Re: updated info - O.T.

2010-08-05 Thread Alan Meyer
soner who decides to take away our virginity with respect to what he has in mind. Stallman was not advocating the physical rape of anyone and neither were his supporters. I don't want to make more of this than was there. He and his supporters have nothing in common with criminals. It's ju

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-11 Thread Alan Meyer
that an internal combustion engine mixes air and gasoline in a carburetor (well, they used to.) Yes, it gives you important information. Yes it was a great innovation in its time. But it doesn't tell you anything about how to make it work and it's

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-09 Thread Alan Meyer
im!" I don't know if "hundreds" of others make a living from open source. I'm sure that the great majority of open source authors do not make a living at it. Like 99.99% of all professional programmers they have day jobs that pay the bills. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.

Re: [Pan-users] Re: WAAAY OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Panon Windows?

2010-03-09 Thread Alan Meyer
never be caught or punished or rewarded? Should we do what is right even if it hurts us? Why? There is 2,500 years of literature on these questions. Many fascinating and enlightening answers have been proposed. But not even a fellow as smart as Plato could summa

Re: [Pan-users] WAAAY OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Panon Windows?

2010-03-09 Thread Alan Meyer
Universalists. Maybe the Quakers would come in second. I don't know if Buddhism qualifies as a religion, I don't know much about it, but it might also be among the leaders. For myself though, I'm content to belong to no religion at all. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-09 Thread Alan Meyer
... > Sorry about posting the answer before the question, that's the > way that Yahoo formats it by default. Also, I'm not posting > anything in HTML, unless Yahoo is forcing it in. Not sure about > that, because there's no option about it in anything I can see. Yahoo is forcing it in, but you can

Re: [Pan-users] WAAAY OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Panon Windows?

2010-03-09 Thread Alan Meyer
I did say earlier that I would love to discuss religion but didn't want to bore everyone. Well, I'm weak. I've given in to temptation ... Joe Zeff wrote: ... > And, I might add, that entire bit of "salvation by faith" is > completely foreign to Judaism. If you wish to earn Paradise, > you do

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-08 Thread Alan Meyer
han it was 50 years ago in the paper era. And that's just the docs stored on disbursed media. Online is another story. Where, for example, will all of Usenet be if Google decides to drop it? Who will pay to preserve it even if Google offers it free to a good home? -- Alan Meyer amey...@

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-08 Thread Alan Meyer
- I'd be happy to jump into that (have I done that already :^) I love to discuss religion (I'm mostly against it) and I never get offended by people who disagree with me about it. But I will restrain myself in the interest of not boring everyone. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-06 Thread Alan Meyer
Steven D'Aprano wrote: > The great Ken Thompson (co-inventor of Unix and inventor of B, the > precursor to C) published a paper "Reflections on Trusting Trust" which > describes how he subverted the C compiler to insert a backdoor to the > login program: YIKES! -- A

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan onWindows?

2010-03-06 Thread Alan Meyer
Travis wrote: > From: "Alan Meyer" > > ... I have found that a number of closed source > > programs I have installed on my Windows machines included > > spyware. ... > > Why don't you name names? I have run the ZoneAlarm free firewall program on my Win

Re: [Pan-users] Re: OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-06 Thread Alan Meyer
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > There's no problem buying a program. In fact ... I see that this is a subject on which you have thought long and deeply. I have to agree with some of your points. On the issue of trust, for example, I trust that the open source software that I run is safe

Re: [Pan-users] OT: freedomware vs... Was: Building Pan on Windows?

2010-03-05 Thread Alan Meyer
es of Microsoft and Intel have anti-social monopoly characteristics. I oppose those. But if someone wants to buy a computer program, even including buying it from Microsoft, why not? -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Many Binaries Cannot Be Shown In Pan

2009-12-31 Thread Alan Meyer
that only multipart posts are affected at your end, am > I right? I don't see this problem using Pan 0.132 on Ubuntu 9.04. I can download both single and multipart binary posts. Try a right mouse click on the desired posting and click "Save articles". -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.co

Re: [Pan-users] Re: NZB files directly from firefox or other browser or file manager.

2009-10-13 Thread Alan Meyer
t seems safer to me than killing a process you had forgotten was running or, if on a multi-user system, a process that another user was running. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.no

Re: [Pan-users] So, what's left before 1.0?

2009-09-29 Thread Alan Meyer
On Tue, 9/29/09, Charles Kerr wrote: > ... > Other than the GMime update to fix multipart messages -- which > is already in K Haley's repo -- are there any honest-to-God > showstoppers left? Not feature requests, tweaks, or whatnot, > but things that would actually prevent Pan 1.0 from finally,

Re: [Off-topic] Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-25 Thread Alan Meyer
On Tue, 8/25/09, Ron Johnson wrote: ... > > At last!  Someone understands why I need 4,000 > > books in my basement and another thousand upstairs. > > But that's just it: you have them in your house, not in an > uber-Kindle From Hell that you carry everywhere! True, but I do pine for them when I

Re: [Off-topic] Re: [Pan-users] Re: Advice on other lists

2009-08-25 Thread Alan Meyer
On Tue, 8/25/09, Steven D'Aprano wrote: ... > What will you do now? Is the fate of the entire world worth > the risk? At last! Someone understands why I need 4,000 books in my basement and another thousand upstairs. At last, now even _I_ understand it. I am sure now that I can finally make

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan 1.33, Windows XP and GTK themes

2009-07-28 Thread Alan Meyer
On Tue, 7/28/09, Gary wrote: > Petr Kovar wrote: > > > Gary, try searching for gtk2rc-2.0, preferably in your > user profile. It > > seems to me like there are multiple configuration > files present on your > > system, and GTK+ reads the unchanged one when > initializing the pan > > executable.

Re: [Pan-users] Documentations

2009-05-14 Thread Alan Meyer
"heck yeah, I'd > write a page or two", I'll set you up a wiki, and provide the > hosting. ... Glen, That's very nice of you. I'm far from expert in using the software, but I would be willing to contribute a page or two about the things

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Search messages

2009-04-27 Thread Alan Meyer
# # uniqpan.py # # Filter a Pan newsgroup articles file to find article subjects and dates. # # Author: Alan Meyer # License: Free under the GNU GPL. import sys, time, re if len(sys.argv) != 2: sys.std

Re: [Pan-users] Re: giganews trouble

2009-04-18 Thread Alan Meyer
opped all alt.* groups. There is a story about it here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9967119-38.html -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan brings PC to a standstill

2009-03-29 Thread Alan Meyer
> From: David Shochat > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 4:25:39 PM > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Pan brings PC to a standstill > > On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:27:24 -0700, walt wrote: > > Well, two points. > > > [snip] > > Second, at-spi-registryd. Unless you know you need it

Re: [Pan-users] Re: server priority and completeless : EXAMPLE

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Meyer
Beartooth wrote: > ... > I just tried to post to rec.guns, asking the location of the FAQ > -- there used to be a routine message with its location. I thought I > could check about binaries. > > I tried three different posting profiles, all with the Motzarella > server, and got two di

Re: [Pan-users] Re: server priority and completeless : EXAMPLE

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Meyer
Alan Meyer wrote: > ... > Although I prefer using a news server to using a web server, > there are web interfaces to news that you might use as a last > resort. > ... Although there are things I like better about Pan, you can also connect to Motzarella with Thunderbird, the fre

Re: [Pan-users] Re: server priority and completeless : EXAMPLE

2009-03-26 Thread Alan Meyer
Beartooth wrote: > ... > Error reading from news.motzarella.org: unknown error > > I've been getting quite a few of those. > > Any bets I'm doing something the nice people at motzarella hadn't > thought of? I've had good luck with Motzarella, though I do get server busy messages from the

Re: [Pan-users] Newsfeed

2009-03-22 Thread Alan Meyer
; there, in addition to gmane, grc, and opera. (I don't need You might try www.motzarella.org. I like them. -- Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users

Re: [Pan-users] Problems unraring archives downloaded with PAN.

2009-03-18 Thread Alan Meyer
> From: apebrigade > ... > unrar x /filename / > > This brings up a dialog where I can see the files contained within the > archive, > but when I try to extract them they do not appear in the target folder. It > fails to extract the files for some reason. I have tried this on my windows >

Re: [Pan-users] Serendipity : You may all laugh - O.T.

2009-03-07 Thread Alan Meyer
On Sat, 3/7/09, Beartooth wrote: > Background : my chief offline activity is squirreling ... I have to say that this one sent me to Google, Wikipedia, and tracing various leads to find out just what "squirreling" is, and why a GPS is involved: Websters Online has: "to store up for future

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Manual manipulation of the groups list

2009-01-30 Thread Alan Meyer
Cool. Couldn't be easier. Thanks. Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Greg Lee wrote: > From: Greg Lee > Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Manual manipulation of the groups list > To: pan-users@nongnu.org > Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 12:41 AM > On Wed, 28 Jan

Re: [Pan-users] Re: Manual manipulation of the groups list

2009-01-29 Thread Alan Meyer
andard (on Unix/Linux, > anyway) based newsrc format, so they can be shared between > clients and/or used for import/ export. ... Thank you Duncan. I edited the newsrc file and replaced the "!" at the end of the group of interest with &quo

[Pan-users] Manual manipulation of the groups list

2009-01-28 Thread Alan Meyer
approach for robust programming and debugging. And because of that, I'm encouraged to think that there may be a way for me to do this. Thanks. Alan Meyer amey...@yahoo.com ___ Pan-users mailing list Pan-users@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users