Steven D'Aprano
> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:25:06 am Leslie Newell wrote:
> ...
> > My challenge to you is to come up with a business model where
> > I can both eat and make my code open source.
>
> It works for Eric Raymond, Guido van Rossum, Richard Stallman,
> and hundreds of others.
I think you
Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote:
> > I was brought up in a "Reform" Jewish congregation and was
> > taught by my rabbi that heaven and hell don't exist at all
> > and there is no afterlife, i.e., no such thing as paradise -
> > though he was very circumspect about how he phrased such
> > thou
On 03/09/2010 01:52 PM, Duncan wrote:
With the upgrade, /as/ a major upgrade, I /did/ expect some problems, but
this one was ridiculous. I spent over 100 hours above and beyond what I'd
call normal upgrade time, researching and installing third party solutions
for stuff still broken in kde 4.2,
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:25:06 am Leslie Newell wrote:
> > That's what's nice about standard formats such as text/plain,
> > text/html, and image/jpeg.
>
> Indeed but what happens for example if you write a word processor
> that has more formatting options than HTML?
You mean something like the open
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:05:59 am Joe Zeff wrote:
> Please note that the Israelites had no problem with the people of
> Edom, Amor or Moab worshiping other gods, because they were
> righteous. The Amalikites, OTOH, who were in effect amoral, were an
> entirely different matter. (They had, apparent
Alan Meyer posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:44:39 -0800 as excerpted:
> I was brought up in a "Reform" Jewish congregation and was taught by my
> rabbi that heaven and hell don't exist at all and there is no afterlife,
> i.e., no such thing as paradise - though he was very circumspect about
> how he
Joe Zeff posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:05:59 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 03/09/2010 11:33 AM, Duncan wrote:
>> Interesting, and something I didn't know. But I have a Christian
>> friend of Jewish heritage, that speaks often of the six-hundred-some
>> (?) commands, and with the below as well, "being
That's what's nice about standard formats such as text/plain, text/html,
and image/jpeg.
Indeed but what happens for example if you write a word processor that
has more formatting options than HTML?
Les sees that as not practical, he says so himself. Free and open source
folks see an
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:26:33 am Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 03/09/2010 03:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> > even if you convert,
> > which most rabbis don't allow and even those who do make it very
> > difficult, you'll always be a Jew by conversion and not a "real"
> > Jew.
>
> In general, rabbis disco
Leslie Newell posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:47:23 + as excerpted:
>>> Alternatively it is perfectly legal to borrow a Windows CD from
>>> someone and install it.
>>>
>> Only if they delete their Windows install first.
>>
> As far as I know you can use it legally without uninstalling th
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Su
Joe Zeff posted on Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:51:35 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 03/08/2010 02:28 PM, Duncan wrote:
>> But blocking by from/author name isn't a problem, since that's in the
>> overview headers. [...]
> Thank you. Done! [...] With luck, I've now seen the last of him:
> good riddance to bad r
On 03/09/2010 01:44 PM, Alan Meyer wrote:
I wish I could be as sanguine as you are about our fellow Jews
but, alas, I think there is just as much and as little
intolerance among Jews as among Christians or others.
This is exactly why I wrote "try to be." We're human, not perfect and
sometimes
walt posted on Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:04:44 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 03/08/2010 06:14 AM, Leslie Newell wrote:
>> Now take my home
>> computer running Kubuntu 9.10. A lot of the applications that come with
>> it have annoying bugs or in several cases complete show stoppers...
>
> Is it kde 4.x? The
Joe Zeff wrote:
> We consider ourselves "a nation of priests, and an example to
> the nations," and the fact that "we answer to a higher
> authority" isn't *just* an advertising slogan. We don't expect
> everybody to live as we do, but we do try to show the world
> that it's possible for people
Steven D'Aprano posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:39:44 +1100 as excerpted:
> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:23:58 pm Duncan wrote:
>
>> That I know. What I don't know is whether there's a "salvation by
>> faith" parallel that can be claimed (if only by some relatively minor
>> sect) for Islam or most other
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Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Building Pan on Windows?
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>
...
> Sorry about posting the answer before the question, that's the
> way that Yahoo formats it by default. Also, I'm not posting
> anything in HTML, unless Yahoo is forcing it in. Not sure about
> that, because there's no option about it in anything I can see.
Yahoo is forcing it in, but you can
I did say earlier that I would love to discuss religion but
didn't want to bore everyone. Well, I'm weak. I've given in to
temptation ...
Joe Zeff wrote:
...
> And, I might add, that entire bit of "salvation by faith" is
> completely foreign to Judaism. If you wish to earn Paradise,
> you do
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Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Building Pan on Windows?
Travis posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:30:51 -0800 as excerpted:
> -- From: "Jeremy
> Elliott" Sent:
>
On 03/09/2010 11:33 AM, Duncan wrote:
Interesting, and something I didn't know. But I have a Christian friend
of Jewish heritage, that speaks often of the six-hundred-some (?)
commands, and with the below as well, "being a properly observant Jew is
not exactly easy" would definitely seem a truis
Travis posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:30:51 -0800 as excerpted:
> -- From: "Jeremy
> Elliott" Sent:
> Tuesday, March 09, 2010 8:28 AM To:
> Subject: Re:
> [Pan-users] Re: Building Pan on Windows?
>
>> Thanks for the answer, Steve. I don't actually
Joe Zeff posted on Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:26:33 -0800 as excerpted:
> On 03/09/2010 03:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> even if you convert,
>> which most rabbis don't allow and even those who do make it very
>> difficult, you'll always be a Jew by conversion and not a "real" Jew.
>
> In general,
On 03/09/2010 03:39 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
even if you convert,
which most rabbis don't allow and even those who do make it very
difficult, you'll always be a Jew by conversion and not a "real" Jew.
In general, rabbis discourage conversion and make it hard because we're
not a proselytizi
On 03/09/2010 02:09 AM, Leslie Newell wrote:
Unfortunately most of the main stream distros seem to be using it these
days.
Fedora is Gnome-centric. Yes, you can install and use the Latest and
Greatest(?) version of KDE, but you're still going to end up with lots
of Gnome-stuph.
_
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From: "Jeremy Elliott"
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To:
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Re: Building Pan on Windows?
Thanks for the answer, Steve. I don't actually have any issues with Pan,
just wondering if there had been any new features
Leslie Newell posted on Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:14:55 + as excerpted:
> I'm jumping into this one a bit late and I am undoubtedly going to get
> flamed for this but I think there is a place for closed source and
> licensing.
I disagree and believe that's unethical, but as long as it's not illegal
Paul Crawford posted on Mon, 08 Mar 2010 08:44:52 + as excerpted:
> Duncan wrote:
>> So what kind of /possible/ insanity would prompt a developer to add
>> "anti- features", that is, additional code, complexity and potential
>> for bugs, that has benefit for *NO* user, when every bit of added
Thanks for the answer, Steve. I don't actually have any issues with Pan, just
wondering if there had been any new features added or minor bugs that had been
patched. I try to check the homepage every month or so, but I'd forgotten to
check your page until I received that response. I've now also
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 04:23:58 pm Duncan wrote:
> That I know. What I don't know is whether there's a "salvation by
> faith" parallel that can be claimed (if only by some relatively minor
> sect) for Islam or most other religions.
Of course there is, in some form, although Islam does include a much
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:57:29 am Leslie Newell wrote:
> > What?
> >
> > If you're talking about the period between *purchasing* Windows
> > (usually as part of a bundle with the computer) and when it goes
> > into lock-down mode because you haven't registered, I think you're
> > missing the point of
Alternatively it is perfectly legal to borrow a Windows CD from
someone and install it.
Only if they delete their Windows install first.
As far as I know you can use it legally without uninstalling their
version first, as long as you do either delete it or install a kosher
copy af
On 5 March 2010 21:57, Jeremy Elliott wrote:
[snip]
>> But AFAIK, at least one of the guys doing MS executables (IIRC there were
>> two) has been building from the khaley sources, so using his should get
>> you the patches already. Again, I don't do servantware, so haven't
>> bothered keeping up
Unfortunately most of the main stream distros seem to be using it these
days.
Les
walt wrote:
Is it kde 4.x? The kde devs have been vilified by many users as guilty
of releasing alpha quality software under version numbers that imply a
mature product. I tried it about 4.2 or so and I couldn
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