On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail instead of
> delivering it. Speak now or hold your peace.
Believe me I understand your pain. Been there done that. However,
dropping mail is never a good idea. You
Hi!
On Mon, 11 May 2015, Eray Aslan wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail instead of
> > delivering it. Speak now or hold your peace.
>
> Believe me I understand your pain. Been there done t
On 11/05/15 05:26, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> Unless there are any major objections, as of May 17th, Infra will start
> dropping mail that scores more than 10.0 points in Spamassassin.
This is excellent, as I will then finally be able to forward my Gentoo
alias to the work e-mail server. Like GMail
Am Montag, 11. Mai 2015, 04:26:01 schrieb Robin H. Johnson:
> This was a good early policy, as Gentoo was a much more reliable host than
> email providers a decade ago. This isn't true anymore, with the meteoric
> rise
> and success of gmail.
This is not true at all - but email service "reliability
Hi,
On Mon, 11 May 2015 04:26:01 + Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> As past long-standing practice, @Gentoo.org system-level mail handling for
> incoming mail was officially to tag everything, and delete nothing.
>
> All deletion decisions were left to developers, via procmail/sieve/etc.
>
> This w
Am Montag, 11. Mai 2015, 15:39:13 schrieb Andrew Savchenko:
> Mail filtering is a minefield: too much spam is bad, loosing
> even single important e-mail due to over restrictive filter is even
> worse.
This is true, as far as you go over standard compliance checks and unserstand
standard violating
Hello,
Lot of thing are done for fighting spam : dnssec, dane, spf, dkim,
dmarc... All of this for "trusting real sender".
Some of them break smtp built in fonctionnality : spf break forwarding [1].
If you beleive in spf (gentoo.org have an spf dns entry) , two ways need
to be looked at :
- fixi
Sorry to shoot and run, but I think you're trying to tackle this
problem in the wrong way. The problem isn't to drop the mail. The
solution is to change email hosting providers. As a non-profit I
believe Google hosted apps would be an option (free). Then it would be
possible to simply leverage that
Hi,
In libtool.eclass[1], it is mentioned in the comments of elt_patch_dir()
that
# If an overlay has eclass overrides, but doesn't actually override the
# libtool.eclass, we'll have ECLASSDIR pointing to the active overlay's
# eclass/ dir, but libtool.eclass is still in the main Gentoo tree. So
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, C Bergström wrote:
> Sorry to shoot and run, but I think you're trying to tackle this
> problem in the wrong way. The problem isn't to drop the mail. The
> solution is to change email hosting providers. As a non-profit I
> believe Google hosted apps would be an opt
What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact.
You get the web interface, IMAP, POP, 2 token authentication (if you
want to enabled it) and lots of other things. etc etc
It used to be free, but now google cha
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström wrote:
> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact.
>
> You get the web interface, IMAP, POP, 2 token authentication (if you
> want to enabled it) and lots o
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström
> wrote:
>> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
>> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact.
>>
>> You get the web interface, IMAP, POP,
On Mon, 11 May 2015 22:21:09 +0700
C Bergström wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman
> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström
> > wrote:
> >> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
> >> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using
On Mon, 11 May 2015 18:17:10 +0200
Alexis Ballier wrote:
> You should probably think about the difference between public code
> being mirrored at github and giving some big company access to private
> emails.
Like your phone company, ISP, and national intelligence agencies?
--
Ciaran McCreesh
On 05/11/2015 10:21 AM, C Bergström wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström
>> wrote:
>>> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
>>> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in f
Look at the forwarding which is already happening. They are already
giving that big company the emails. That big company gets a copy of
every email which is posted publicly already.
Are you concerned about their privacy policy? Are you concerned about
them complying to a government demand or ads..
On Mon, 11 May 2015 17:20:01 +0100
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2015 18:17:10 +0200
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > You should probably think about the difference between public code
> > being mirrored at github and giving some big company access to
> > private emails.
>
> Like your phon
Dnia 2015-05-11, o godz. 17:20:01
Ciaran McCreesh napisał(a):
> On Mon, 11 May 2015 18:17:10 +0200
> Alexis Ballier wrote:
> > You should probably think about the difference between public code
> > being mirrored at github and giving some big company access to private
> > emails.
>
> Like your
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, C Bergström wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström
>> wrote:
>>> What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has
>>> and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it rig
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 11:21 AM, C Bergström
> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:59 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström
>>> wrote:
What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gm
On 05/11/2015 03:29 AM, Eray Aslan wrote:
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
>> TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail instead of
>> delivering it. Speak now or hold your peace.
>
> Believe me I understand your pain. Been there done that.
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On 05/11/2015 09:31 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 05/11/2015 03:29 AM, Eray Aslan wrote:
>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson
>> wrote:
>>> TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail
>>> instead of del
On 05/11/2015 03:35 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
>
> Could it be an alternative to move the messages flagged as spam into
> an own folder that isn't forwarded? at least that means it doesn't
> impact operations for those using it locally and the mail is still
> around, if a webmail interface o
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:31:51PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 05/11/2015 03:29 AM, Eray Aslan wrote:
> > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:26:01AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> >> TL;DR: As of May 17, @gentoo.org will drop incoming spammy mail instead of
> >> delivering it. Speak now or hold y
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:39:13PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote:
> Unconditional adjustment of free software infrastructure for very
> questionable rules of proprietary product is a very bad idea.
It's an ecosystem. If we do nothing, we continue to penalize all
developers who forward their mail to
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09:08PM +0200, Niels Dettenbach wrote:
> > As past long-standing practice, @Gentoo.org system-level mail handling for
> > incoming mail was officially to tag everything, and delete nothing.
> This is - for a public internet Mailer / MX - a VERY bad option - at least
> ma
On 05/11/2015 04:08 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> By drop, I will clarify that they should ideally be rejected at SMTP
> time, not silently dropped.
>
I believe those logs show a rejection after the message has been
accepted initially (if I'm wrong, you can ignore the rest of this). This
is bette
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 03:27:12PM +0200, Charles Nérot wrote:
> Lot of thing are done for fighting spam : dnssec, dane, spf, dkim,
> dmarc... All of this for "trusting real sender".
> Some of them break smtp built in fonctionnality : spf break forwarding [1].
DANE does nothing for spam, there are
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 04:47:31PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On 05/11/2015 04:08 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > By drop, I will clarify that they should ideally be rejected at SMTP
> > time, not silently dropped.
>
> I believe those logs show a rejection after the message has been
> accept
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