On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 10:44 AM, C Bergström <cbergst...@pathscale.com> wrote: > What I'm describing is not "gmail" - it's everything that gmail has > and offers, but @gentoo.org domain. I'm using it right now in fact. > > You get the web interface, IMAP, POP, 2 token authentication (if you > want to enabled it) and lots of other things. etc etc
How about the source code? > > It used to be free, but now google charges for it with an exception > for non-profits. The social contract isn't about free-of-cost. In fact, Gentoo pays for a number of services (often below commercial rates, but not everybody can afford to donate 100% of what we need). We've even paid for a bug bounty on one occasion. The social contract is about free-as-in-freedom. We don't depend on proprietary services as much as possible. We even have debates over the use of github, since the pull request side isn't really FOSS. It is tolerated mainly because we have FOSS alternatives as well, and bugzilla is still the primary bug tracker/etc. To the extent that github is just used as a hosting provider for git it is completely compatible with the social contract, and would be so even if we were paying for it. All that said, being non-profit we still try to use donations of services anytime we can. Our mirror network is probably the biggest example of this - we have an insane amount of mirror bandwidth and there is no way an org of our size could afford to pay for it on our own. Next time you do an emerge --sync take a look at the hostnames/MOTDs/etc and be sure to appreciate them in some way. -- Rich
