Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-29 Thread Raymond Jennings
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 4:07 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Raymond Jennings > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi > wrote: > >> > >> What about maintainers that are away without writing it in their > >> maintainer bug ? > >> After how many da

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-27 Thread William Hubbs
Hi Daniel, On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:55:09AM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: > Agreed. For most of my packages, I really don't mind since we're all > working on Gentoo together, but it'd be super helpful if I was simply > notified in the event that a package I maintain has gotten a security > bump,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: >> >> What about maintainers that are away without writing it in their >> maintainer bug ? >> After how many days of no replay can be fair to touch their package ? > > If a developer

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-27 Thread Raymond Jennings
On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > What about maintainers that are away without writing it in their > maintainer bug ? > After how many days of no replay can be fair to touch their package ? I think we already have dev-away. If a maintainer marks themselves as devaway, m

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-26 Thread Alice Ferrazzi
On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 11:47:35PM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 11/22/2016 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:55:09AM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: > >> On 11/17/2016 01:07 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:05:41PM +0100, Kristian Fiskers

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-25 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/22/2016 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:55:09AM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> On 11/17/2016 01:07 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:05:41PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Isn't it implied that any stabilisation is approved by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-22 Thread Alice Ferrazzi
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 12:55:09AM -0800, Daniel Campbell wrote: > On 11/17/2016 01:07 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:05:41PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > >>> Isn't it implied that any stabilisation is approved by the maintainer? > >>> Has it ever been acceptabl

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-19 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 19/11/16 19:04, Michał Górny wrote: > Could we maybe include some place (metadata.xml?) to state what is > the best way to test a package? I'm thinking it could include things > like: > > - whether the test of the package are reliable, > > - whether runtime testing is required and what kind of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-19 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/17/2016 01:07 PM, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:05:41PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >>> Isn't it implied that any stabilisation is approved by the maintainer? >>> Has it ever been acceptable to go around stabilising random packages? >>> >> >> Explicit > Implicit

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Harald Weiner
Dear Duncan, maybe you already know the project at http://orca.varstack.com/ Otherwise I would like to advise the following link to you to answer the question of how to test different USE flag combinations: https://github.com/pallavagarwal07/SummerOfCode16/blob/997078ebbf1aa86ba17fa53e400e4c99d7d6

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:13:35 +1100 Michael Palimaka wrote: > What is the *real* risk that kde-apps/kcalc builds against stable > dev-libs/gmp but then starts producing funny numbers at runtime? > > Let's put it another way - assume we're stabilising a new version of > dev-libs/gmp instead. Shoul

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:05:41PM +0100, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > Isn't it implied that any stabilisation is approved by the maintainer? > > Has it ever been acceptable to go around stabilising random packages? > > > > Explicit > Implicit when we're updating things anyways. > > There ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Duncan
Michael Palimaka posted on Fri, 18 Nov 2016 02:35:26 +1100 as excerpted: > On 18/11/16 01:58, William Hubbs wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 06:16:27PM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote: >>> USE flags >>> >>> While it is preferable to test every USE flag combination, this is not >>> always

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > > Just to be clear, I'm not advocating banning runtime testing. I just > think that, considering the state of the stable tree, we should consider > very careful in which situations we actually gain value from it. That's > for another threa

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 18/11/16 01:58, William Hubbs wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 06:16:27PM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote: >> USE flags >> >> While it is preferable to test every USE flag combination, this is not >> always possible or appropriate. The package may have a large number of >> USE flags, a l

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
On 11/17/2016 02:47 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 18/11/16 00:26, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: >> Strictly speaking GLEP 40 forbids it still, although some arch teams >> have made announcements to approve it, see e.g [1,2]. I wouldn't be >> surprised if one of the results of the stable WG is an

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 18/11/16 00:26, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > Strictly speaking GLEP 40 forbids it still, although some arch teams > have made announcements to approve it, see e.g [1,2]. I wouldn't be > surprised if one of the results of the stable WG is an updated GLEP 40 > that (new GLEP replacing existing)

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 17/11/16 23:49, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 11/17/2016 02:16 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: >> >> # strict - have portage react strongly to conditions that have the >> potential to be dangerous >> ... >> FEATURES="collision-protect ipc-sandbox network-sandbox sandbox >> split-log split-elog strict

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 17/11/16 22:56, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Michael Palimaka > wrote: >> On 17/11/16 20:16, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Michael Palimaka >>> wrote: * A leaf package such as {{package|kde-apps/kcalc}} may not require any runtim

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 4:37 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > On 17/11/16 20:16, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Michael Palimaka >> wrote: >>> * A leaf package such as {{package|kde-apps/kcalc}} may not require any >>> runtime testing at all >> >> I'm not really a big fan o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Stabilisation procedure

2016-11-17 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 17/11/16 20:16, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 2:16 AM, Michael Palimaka > wrote: >> >> In cases where all USE flags combinations are not being tested, it is >> still recommended to test: >> * with all USE flags enabled >> * with all USE flags disabled >> * the default USE flag