On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 5:56 AM, Raymond Jennings <shent...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:06 AM, Alice Ferrazzi <ali...@gentoo.org> wrote:
>>
>> What about maintainers that are away without writing it in their
>> maintainer bug ?
>> After how many days of no replay can be fair to touch their package ?
>
> If a developer lapses long enough and doesn't use devaway properly to mark
> any waylaid packages as touchable...then that's probably an example of an
> even bigger fish to fry that undertakers would handle anyway.

A maintainer can be actively doing other work and still not respond to
a stable request bug.  The only thing the undertakers could do about
it is get rid of them, which stops the work they were actively doing
and doesn't make the situation with the bug they were ignoring any
better.

Are devs supposed to ignore stable request bugs?  No.  Has anybody
come up with a way to make them not do it?  Unfortunately not.  Part
of the issue is that some devs are just somewhat antisocial and prefer
to do their own thing.  For the most part as long as they're not
actually actively making trouble for others we tend to accept this,
since the only visible change to getting rid of them is less stuff
getting done (the stuff they passively ignored still ends up being
passively ignored).

This is why we tend to favor procedures that don't block progress by
default.  Just set a timeout.  If the maintainer doesn't respond
within x days then stabilization can proceed.  Maybe make an exception
for @system.  We do similar things when devs want to touch each
other's packages; if you don't get a response the assumption is that
you can just go ahead.

-- 
Rich

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