[ANNOUNCE] Apache HugeGraph(incubating) 1.2.0 available

2023-12-31 Thread Simon Cheung
h.apache.org/cn/docs/changelog/hugegraph-1.2.0-release-notes/ (CN) Website: https://hugegrapgh.apache.org/ Linkis Resources: - Issue: https://github.com/apache/incubator-hugegrapgh/issues - Mailing list: d...@hugegrapgh.apache.org Simon Cheung On behalf of Apache HugeGraph(incubating) Team

[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache HugeGraph(incubating) 1.2.0 rc1

2023-12-28 Thread simon
Thanks for reviewing and voting for our release candidate. We will proceed with publishing the approved artifacts and sending out the announcement soon. Simon Cheung On behalf of Apache HugeGraph(Incubating) community

[VOTE] Release Apache HugeGraph (Incubating) 1.2.0 rc1

2023-12-23 Thread simon
.com/apache/incubator-hugegraph-commons/tree/1.2.0 (33fa9ed) Release notes: - https://hugegraph.apache.org/docs/changelog/hugegraph-1.2.0-release-notes/ Keys to verify the Release Candidate: - https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/hugegraph/KEYS The release GPG user ID: simon (m...@apache.org) The

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-17 Thread Simon Chan
Looks great, Debo! Simon On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Debo Dutta (dedutta) wrote: > Also some of us have built something similar and would be happy to help > https://github.com/CiscoSystems/cognitive > > debo > > > > > On 5/17/16, 12:58 PM, "Nick

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-16 Thread Simon Chan
Yes, it includes everyone who previously contributed code from PredictionIO before the acquisition and still want to be involved in the project. We may have missed "Alex Merritt", going to add him to the list soon. Simon On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Suneel Marthi wrote: >

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-15 Thread Simon Chan
rning applications, and is a complemental part of the project. At this point we exclude the Template Gallery from the proposal, as it has a separate set of contributors and we’re not familiar with an Apache approved mechanism to maintain such a gallery." Any suggestion? Regards, Simon On Sun, May 15,

Re: [DISCUSS] PredictionIO incubation proposal

2016-05-14 Thread Simon Chan
Zeppelin after PredictionIO becomes an Apache project. Regards, Simon On Saturday, May 14, 2016, Andrew Purtell wrote: > Yikes, apologies for the formatting. It looked fine in Gmail when I sent > it alas. > > I must let the proposers respond to the technical questions but I think I &g

Re: Looking for a Champion

2013-06-05 Thread Simon Lucy
Andy Van Den Heuvel wrote: I'm looking for a Champion to help me setup a proposal. The project is a pluggable all-round job scheduling application. Not to be a killjoy but how is it different to Hudson/Jenkins? S Can somebody help me? Thanks for your consideration. -

Re: please tidy up at Incubator

2012-08-30 Thread Simon IJskes - QCG
I've looked at the incubator homepage and we are not listed anymore. Our distribution on incubator is removed as well. Can somebody tell us what loose ends we left? Gr. Simon On 29-08-12 21:45, Tom Hobbs wrote: Hi David, Apologies for not getting back to you sooner. Thanks fo

[IP CLEARANCE] Apache Lucene Kuromoji Japanese morphological analyzer

2011-11-08 Thread Simon Willnauer
clearance passes by lazy consensus if no -1 votes are cast within the next 72 hours. Thanks, Simon Willnauer [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3305 [2]https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/site-author/ip-clearance/lucene-kuromoji.xml [3] hhttp://mail

How to submit IP Clearance

2011-08-08 Thread Simon Willnauer
to commit this. I think as a member I can commit to the incubator svn but I don't want to do this without explicit permission though. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LUCENE-3305 thanks, simon - To unsubscribe, e

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Simon Phipps
Presumably though the private list is an exception-handling venue and we should just get started on ooo-...@incubator.apache.org for now? Or am I missing key insights here? S.

Re: OpenOffice.org next steps

2011-06-13 Thread Simon Brouwer
Note: if you are an ASF member, and wish to subscribe to this list using an ID other than your apache.org id, Do you mean the email addres used to subscribe? please make sure that that id is listed in members.txt. Where is members.txt? -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer. | http://nl.o

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 11 Jun 2011, at 11:23, Simos Xenitellis > wrote: > > > The part about the ASF undertaking only a reference implementation for > > the ODF format > > was not discussed. > > Yes it wa

Re: [DISCUSSION] (was: RE: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation)

2011-06-11 Thread Simon Brouwer
spective) OpenOffice.org-users will lose interest and that we won't be able to regain the momentum. -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer. | http://nl.openoffice.org | http://www.opentaal.org | - To unsubsc

Re: Request: Can "proposed committers" introduce themselves?

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Brouwer
Hi all, My name is Simon Brouwer. For my profession, I develop electronics and firmware for auto-ID equipment such as hand-held data collection terminals. In my free time I have been active in OpenOffice.org since 2001 and have been project lead of the Dutch native-lang subproject since its

Re: Request: Can "proposed committers" introduce themselves?

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Brouwer
Hi Malte, great to have you on board :) Best regards Simon Op 10-6-2011 18:16, Malte Timmermann schreef: Hi, my name is Malte Timmermann, and I work on the code base of OpenOffice.org since 1991 - almost from the beginning. It started with StarDivision, later acquired by Sun, later

Re: [VOTE] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Phipps
+1 (non-binding) S.

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Phipps
, > Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, > http://dataved.ru/ > +7 916 562 8095 > > > > > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > For us outsiders, can you explain who is allowe

Re: [DISCUSSION] Accept OpenOffice.org for incubation

2011-06-10 Thread Simon Phipps
For us outsiders, can you explain who is allowed to vote and in what way, please? S.

Re: Remediation ...

2011-06-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Michael Meeks > wrote: > > > >IMHO this is vastly preferable to some smoke and lawyer (IANAL) > > filled room that issues edicts to remove features and veto patches > > without a clear public rational on a

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-09 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:21 PM, wrote: > > This is great information. But can I make a suggestion? I don't think > this is a discussion that we can really make any progress with now, in > reviewing an incubation proposal. I'm not even sure this is something > that will be within the ambit of t

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 2:07 AM, wrote: > > In the same regard, the Team OpenOffice.org e.V. to which IBM and other > corporate sponsors provided annual financial support may now wish to > consider consolidation with http://www.frodev.org/. If that seems > inappropriate, perhaps both need to be re

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > > > Andrew Rist wrote: > >> to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. > >> searching for a more complete answer > >> > >> > > > > It would be interesting to find out if a

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:43 AM, wrote: > Don Harbison > Program Director, IBM ODF Initiative > Tel. +1-978-399-7018 > Mobile: +1-978-761-0116 > Email: donald_harbi...@us.ibm.com > > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/08/2011 07:51:20 PM: > > > From: Simon Phipps > &

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > Andrew Rist wrote: > >> to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. >> searching for a more complete answer >> >> >> > It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were > accounted for since the fork. Th

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:48 AM, wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/08/2011 06:44:35 PM: > > > > > > > > I was actually thinking of Freies Office Deutschland e.V. primarily, > > http://www.frodev.org/ > > > > Interesting. That happen

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > Andrew Rist wrote: > >> to a foundation independent of Oracle: Team OpenOffice.org e.V. >> searching for a more complete answer >> >> >> > It would be interesting to find out if all funds received for OOo were > accounted for since the fork. Th

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
evelopers" part doesn't fit... >>> >>> btw, where do those funds go now?? I'm guessing some sort of >> escrow account held by Oracle? >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Simon Phipps +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: >> >> On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>> >>> Dave Fisher wrote: >>>> >>>> Yo

Re: OOo Monetary Donations

2011-06-08 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 8 June 2011 22:50, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > Dave Fisher wrote: > > > > > Your donation will go directly towards helping this project. Some of > the > > ways > > > in which your funds might be used include: > > > • Hiring independen

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Jomar Silva (Cuca) wrote: > Yep... but even logged in I couldn't edit it... I'm from the third > world, you know :) > > Fascinating. Can you send me your login details privately and I'll see if any of the folk I have on IM can help :-) S.

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:37 PM, wrote: > Greg Stein wrote on 06/07/2011 05:50:49 PM: > > > > > Besides the content Oracle owns, it seems we could just ask the other > owners > > to give the CWS's to the ASF. I mean, really... *somebody* out there > holds > > the copyright. We just have to deter

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
Are you logged in? Accounts are free (hey, they even let me have one)! {Terse? Mobile!} On Jun 7, 2011 10:09 PM, "Jomar Silva (Cuca)" wrote: > Simon, > > I've tried to edit the wiki but I don't have permisson... shame

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Brouwer
Op 7-6-2011 22:37, William A. Rowe Jr. schreef: On 6/7/2011 3:17 PM, Simon Brouwer wrote: The OpenOffice.org installation packages contain code from a considerable number of "external" libraries (i.e. third party ones that are developed in their own projects, not copyright Oracl

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Brouwer
t; libraries (i.e. third party ones that are developed in their own projects, not copyright Oracle and have mostly LGPL license). So this would not be allowed for releases by the podling? -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer. | http://nl.openo

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Noel J. Bergman > wrote: > > > >> Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > >> > unless either the Apache p

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote: > > > unless either the Apache project or the LibreOffice project do extremely > > substantial refactoring very fast, both projects will be using the same > > code for a long time. If we all do

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
Good to know, many thanks. S. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:23 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: > We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in the OOo > repositories. > > A. > > > > On 6/7/2011 10:14 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> That's very helpfu

Re: A little OOo history

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > > Of course, this is not necessarily a problem for Apache. Think of it this > way. It would be perfectly possible, and actually quite easy for someone > to host the files with a scalable cloud storage provider, e.g., Amazon, > and charge $0.99 for the do

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
; [2] > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3c4de9bd98.3050...@oracle.com%3E > [3] > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump > > > On 6/7/2011 5:23 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Simo

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
I just heard back from the Open World Forum Programme Committee (Paris, October) and they would be pleased to provide us with space for a meeting. S.

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 07.06.2011 12:37, Thorsten Behrens wrote: > >> Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >>> I don't think that this is really necessary *now*, as we can do that >>> even better and more efficiently when we actually work on the code >>> from the svn reposit

Re: OpenOffice & LibreOffice

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) > > On 7 Jun 2011, at 09:22, Dirk-Willem van Gulik > wrote: > > > On 5 Jun 2011, at 23:45, Keith Curtis wrote: > > > > ... > >> LibreOffice will for a long time be using a substantial amoun

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Brouwer
Hi Thorsten, Thorsten Behrens schreef: > Simon Brouwer wrote: >> The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle >> can't supply and that is very difficult to replace. >> > If you re-read Christian's mail, the answer to both is "yes&q

Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Brouwer
summary dealt with file lists and did not take file size into account. So that 50% in file count may represent a far bigger percentage of source code. The real question is whether anything essential is missing that Oracle can't supply and that is very difficult to replace. -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer -*- nl.openoffice.org -*- http://www.opentaal.org -*- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Question to TDF and its community

2011-06-07 Thread Simon Brouwer
independent OpenOffice.org community member, is that OpenOffice.org was, for most of its life, in excellent hands with Sun/Oracle all things considered. Given that Oracle has decided to pull away, I think handing it to an open source minded, vendor-neutral, mature, capable organization suc

Re: OOo - Lines in the sand and pre-determined conclusions...

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
, Cor indicates that I nailed the matter quite squarely. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Simon Phipps +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
users commited to use ODF > just inside government is estimated in 3 million). > > Best, > > Jomar Silva > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands,

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal - Budget Concerns

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: > > > Note that an expo-hall pass is free until (and including) today; it's > > $25 thereafter. > > > > This also opens up the evening events Mon-Fri, which, if you're going > > to f

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HREUNITING the Community?

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Volker Merschmann wrote: > > > Hi Jim, all, > > > > 2011/6/4 Jim Jagielski : > >> > >> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Personally, I think Oracle's choice had more to do with IBM's

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
I've created a wiki page for us to co-ordinate who can attend what where. Do please edit at will, there are no rules and I am sure I made lots of mistakes :-) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OOoCommunitySummit S.

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, wrote: > > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/06/2011 03:18:11 PM: > > > From: Simon Phipps > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Date: 06/06/2011 03:19 PM > > Subject: Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal > > > > On M

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 15:04, Joe Schaefer wrote: > > It's just a meeting between colleagues. If all it does is > > break a little of the entrenched ice I'd call it a success. > > > > Sure beats email for dealing with emotions/trust. > > Right

Re: List of files covered by the OpenOffice grant

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
I asked some LibreOffice folk what they thought was missing from the list. In addition to the stuff Christian listed (and the fact the list was not derived from the latest beta), they said that there are a large number of un-integrated work-in-progress patches in the form of CWSs that it would be i

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: > >> However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far >> off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, >> per

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Danese Cooper wrote: > However, it seems to me that October and November are still rather far > off, and with the wealth of conferences over the next two months, > perhaps we could set something up sooner than that? OSCON, anyone? > > I've just asked for a room at

Re: OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On 6 Jun 2011, at 19:03, Nóirín Plunkett wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think >> it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor >> TDF but

OpenOffice.org Summit Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
My apologies if this proposal is out of place on either list, but I think it's worth thinking about early. Obviously I speak for neither Apache nor TDF but I have a deep concern for OpenOffice.org and am very keen to see the community healed. Given that: * both LibreOffice (October, Paris) an

Re: [Libreoffice] Proposal to join Apache OpenOffice

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote: > > > Let's say we persuaded the good guys at Apache that this is a ploy to > > manipulate them and they reject the code. Where then will it go? If > > conspiracy is right it definitely won't be to TDF and it could be to > > somewhere a lot mor

Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 6, 2011 2:58 PM, "Joe Schaefer" wrote: > > Because Apache will own the brand, we can make access to the brand > contingent on things like non-abuse of our OOo forums, among other > things. > > Carrots and sticks. Is Apache historically flexible in this area? I had the impression the tradem

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Like most aspects of Apache, it's easier to ask for forgiveness > > than to seek permission, epecially when we don't all agree on > the necessity of it ;-). > > Given I had actually asked for and received permission from the proposal mentor I

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:17 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:06 AM, wrote: > > > >>> I would recommend altering the proposal. "We have the set of files > >>> specified

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-06 Thread Simon Brouwer
Christian Lippka schreef: > Am 06.06.2011 00:28, schrieb Simon Brouwer: >> Op 5-6-2011 19:19, Christian Lippka schreef: >>> Hi Ralph, >>> >>> Am 05.06.2011 18:46, schrieb Ralph Goers: >>>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote: >>&g

Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a "division of markets" conversation?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
I still have no idea what you are talking about, not least since in this place we are all individuals. But I would be quite interested to understand why you have been trying so hard to stamp out all collaboration with the LibreOffice part of the OOo community right from the start. S. On Jun 6, 2

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:24 AM, wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/05/2011 08:49:19 PM: > > => > > > I read all that Rob. Nothing in there about the plan to continue > creating, > > building and delivering OpenOffice.org on all the platforms and in all > the &g

Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a "division of markets" conversation?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:29 AM, wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/05/2011 09:13:24 PM: > > > > > > > I think it would be great for TDF have an end-user downstream > deliverable. > > > It would be great if anyone open source project wants to do that.

Re: Legal concern: Are we getting to close ot a "division of markets" conversation?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 2:08 AM, wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/05/2011 08:38:08 PM: > > > > > > > > The people who will only contribute to a copyleft license (and I know > a few > > > OO contributors like that) will not come over this world .. so to tha

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:37 AM, wrote: > Simon Phipps wrote on 06/05/2011 07:49:41 PM: > > > From: Simon Phipps > > I'm not clear how safe that assumption is - that's what I have been > waiting > > to see explained for quite a while actually. Rob has

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: > > The people who will only contribute to a copyleft license (and I know a few > OO contributors like that) will not come over this world .. so to that > extent this is a community fork and we cannot do brand sharing as that'll > confuse

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:06 AM, wrote: > > I would recommend altering the proposal. "We have the set of files > > specified in the software grant. During incubation, we will seek a > > grant to the following groups of code: " > > > Done. > Beat me to it :-) We still need to get that list fles

Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: > There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope > Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable > unless the pending application is turned down. > Actually that trademark application is of deep con

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > On 6/5/11 7:49 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Richard S. Hall> >wrote: >> >> I don't think the proposal here is for OOo to enter incubation and then >>> try >&

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:38 AM, Richard S. Hall wrote: > > I don't think the proposal here is for OOo to enter incubation and then try > to copy everything that TDF/LO does. I assume the proposers have a vision > for where they want to go, even though they may be starting from the same > place. >

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote: > > It could be argued either way. I am sure if IBM put its efforts to > LibreOffice then I'm sure it would be a great success. So why doesn't > IBM want to take part when theres a great FOSS community already in > existence? > I am pretty s

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Brouwer
lding process. There are makefiles, patches etc., but no source code worth mentioning, in subdirectories stlport, openssl, hunspell, libxslt... It might be all of these: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/binaries/ -- Vriendelijke groet, Simon Brouwer. | http://nl.openoffice.org

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile < ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > Concerning the extensions, by reading the file Sam Ruby uploaded, the > following > extensions are in the grant: > > > Thanks, I'd missed those. Reassuring :-) > > I don't see the MySQL C

Re: Initial source files (was: OpenOffice: were are we now?)

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > No, we don't need the comprehensive list to start. > OK, that's good. It will be worth gathering a group of experts to build a comprehensive view. I suggest that include LibreOffice developers too. > After all that, then we can go back to O

Re: OpenOffice: were are we now?

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
On 5 Jun 2011, at 19:15, Greg Stein wrote: > On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 14:05, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: >> On 6/5/2011 10:43 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: >>> >>> I posted a similar statement yesterday. Personally, I think the traffic on >>> this list has settled down a lot in the last 24 hours and is

Re: [italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Phipps
I'm aware that Sun successfully challenged a problematic third party registration in Brazil just as the acquisition was going through. It may be worth early investigation in case the registration on Sun's behalf was not then completed; OOo had serious issues in Brazil over many years because of it.

Re: [italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org: Re: OpenOffice and the ASF]

2011-06-05 Thread Simon Brouwer
company Open Office Automatisering since before OpenOffice.org was announced, see http://www.openoffice.nl/merkenregistratie Because of this and similar cases we need taking care to not omit the ".org" when indicating the project or the product OpenOffice.org. -- Vriendelijke

Re: Recuse as mentor?

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
I really can't see that as necessary Jim. S. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 18:18, Jim Jagielski wrote: > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:43:50PM +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: >> >> On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:19, Sam Ruby wrote: >>> >>>> >>> LibreOffice complements anything we do here at Apache to those who

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 13:18, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> >> On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >>>> On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, "Sam Ruby&qu

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:38, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: >>> However I >>> will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for >>> advancing the

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:19, Sam Ruby wrote: > >> > LibreOffice complements anything we do here at Apache to those who > agree with the license terms under which LibreOffice is made > available. Until or unless we resolve that issue, I feel that the > statement above would need to be both qualifie

Re: OO/LO License (Was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On 4 Jun 2011, at 12:09, Simos Xenitellis wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Jochen Wiedmann > wrote: >> Excuse me for interrupting ... >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:01 AM, wrote: >> >>> LibreOffice uses a dual license LGPLv3/MPL. >> >> I've been reading MPL a few times in this

Re: OpenOffice and the ASF

2011-06-04 Thread Simon Phipps
On Jun 4, 2011 2:03 AM, "Sam Ruby" wrote: > However I > will state that in cases where widespread use of the code is vital for > advancing the cause of free software that the Apache License, Version > 2.0 is an appropriate choice: > > http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-recommendations.html Have

Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
I can confirm I just saw your "Hello" message go out - awesome! S. On 4 Jun 2011, at 01:21, Greg Stein wrote: > I've now subscribed to libreoffice@, steering-discuss@, and discuss@. > I dropped a "hello" email to the lists, and am going into lurk mode > :-) > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:45, Den

Re: TDF/LO, what is the art of the possible?

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
t > > > 7) Join Apache and consolidate all development there, under the name ODF > Suite. > > a) Not willing to consider it > > b) Willing to consider it > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > -- Simon Phipps +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com

Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:23, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > > >> (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? > > > > Actually I have

Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
Sorry, hit send too soon. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who > might want to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to > subscribe to. (name only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that > ASF peo

Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? > > Actually I have not seen any invitations from anyone associated with this proposal on the LibreOffice and Document Foundation lists I subscribe to. I heard about it through perso

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
Given the generally positive response I've edited that text into the wiki. S. On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > Excellent. Thanks, Simon! > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 18:16, Simon Phipps wrote: > > I suggest: > > > > "The LibreOffice p

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
I suggest: "The LibreOffice project is an important partner in the OpenOffice.org community, with an established potentially highly complementary focus on the GNU/Linux community as well as on Windows and Mac consumer end-users. We will seek to build a constructive working and technical relationsh

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 PM, dsh > wrote: > >> > > >> > Besides that, I

Re: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 4:11 PM, dsh wrote: > > > > Besides that, I was asking myself why Rob is the only one who could > > add such a tone to the proposal? If there would be consensus that open > > and proactive collaboration with other parties i

Re: OOo - Lines in the sand and pre-determined conclusions...

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On 3 Jun 2011, at 21:14, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Posts such as: > > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3935136/LibreOffice-340-Released-as-OpenOffice-Heads-to-Apache.htm > > certainly don't help. It just reinforces a perceived division > as well as almost forcing the "other

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:44 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > >> > >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > >> > >>&

Re: "opportunity to reunite the related communities" Re: OpenOffice.org Apache Incubator Proposal: Splitting the Community?

2011-06-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:00 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > > I am not even thinking of suggesting it, any more than I would dream of > telling TDF they have to switch to another license. But I do believe there's > a need

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