Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

That first sentence still doesn't parse, sorry ... I should have said I don't like the idea of the board taking responsibility. I have no problem with it receiving reports directly. Sent from a mobile device, please excuse mistakes and brevity On 15 Jun 2013 07:55, "Ross Gardler" wrote: > I sho

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

I should have said I don't like the idea of the board receiving reports for podlings that need assistance. It already does. Its not the reporting that's a problem, its the support that's needed in a small number of cases. I'll expand on that in Chris' thread. I'll note that in this thread I answer

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 (non-binding) ~ Indika On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: >... > Now, truth be told, I don't like the pTLP reporting to the board idea. I see no problem whatsoever with the suggested pTLP reporting. Let me throw out a hypothetical counterpoint here... The Incubator gathers reports from all of its po

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or o

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+ 1 (binding) Suresh On Jun 14, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or o

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

On Jun 14, 2013 5:50 PM, "Ross Gardler" wrote: > > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or other

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 (non-binding) Thanks! On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Amila Jayasekara wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Thanks > AmilaJ > > > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Nirmal Fernando >wrote: > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Afkham Azeez wrote: > > > > > +1 (binding

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 (non-binding) Thanks AmilaJ On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Nirmal Fernando wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Afkham Azeez wrote: > > > +1 (binding) > > > > Azeez > > > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Ross Gardler < > rgard...@opendirective.com > > >wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 (non-binding) On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, Afkham Azeez wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Azeez > > On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Ross Gardler >wrote: > > > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos pr

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 (binding) Azeez On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy

Re: Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

Hi Shane, On Jun 14, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the > concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, > based on technology areas? > > I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever w

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1. Deepal > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or otherwise of the probationary TLP idea is a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

+1 binding. Good luck guys! - Henry On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing

Incubator reorg ideas: sub-groups per technology?

Apologies if this horse has been beaten already, but... have we discussed the concept of splitting incubator operations into a handful of separate groups, based on technology areas? I.e. while the IPMC or ComDev or whoever would still set policy and provide community best practice guidance. B

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On 14 June 2013 18:16, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:42 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" > wrote: > >> >> * pTLP are nothing different than what existed before there was an >> Incubator. Yes we have more projects now. So what. We'll continue >> to have more projects and those wil

Re: [VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013, at 04:49 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. > > I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter > the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation > policy. The acceptance or

[VOTE] Accept Stratos proposal as an incubating project

I would like to invite the IPMC vote to accept the Stratos proposal [1]. I want to clarify that this vote is for the Stratos project to enter the incubator as a standard podling under the existing incubation policy. The acceptance or otherwise of the probationary TLP idea is a separate issue that

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On 14 June 2013 17:19, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: > I'm putting my replies to this in a separate thread, and going to > combine responses to Shane and Jim in it too since pTLP is not > only related to accepting Stratos as an Apache Incubation project. Good move. I'll call the vote on the St

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Mesos 0.12.0-incubating (RC1)

Unfortunately 0.12.0 was at a point where we had flaky tests, we're in much better shape these days! (0.13.0 and later) Alright, just one additional binding vote needed!! Hopefully we can get that quickly and start preparing to release 0.13.0. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Andy Konwinski wro

Re: Change of Chair

On Jun 13, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > Incubator community, > > I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend > Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a motion submitted to the > Foundation board for consideration at the meeting next week. I was a pleasure w

Re: Change of Chair

Thanks Benson for all what you have done for the IPMC On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) < chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > Welcome, Marvin! :) > > Cheers, > Chris > > ++ > Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. > Senio

Re: Change of Chair

Welcome, Marvin! :) Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.e

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

+1 to all Greg's comments below. Thanks dude. Cheers, Chris ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.go

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On Jun 14, 2013, at 10:42 AM, "Mattmann, Chris A (398J)" wrote: > > * pTLP are nothing different than what existed before there was an > Incubator. Yes we have more projects now. So what. We'll continue > to have more projects and those will eventually graduate to TLP, > so we'll be in the sam

[DISCUSS] Merits of pTLP idea

Snipping this part out since this isn't directly related to Stratos: Let's start with these point made by Ross, Shane and Jim. I start out with my interpretation of their sentiments. These are my own. If they are wrong my bad. 1. pTLPs *are* different. Shane, Jim: pTLPs are different from a bra

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 5:45 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > The Probationary TLP opens us up to more risk for what I can see as no real > benefit or reduction in effort or resources. I expect the experiment to yield a specific benefit to Stratos: a more intensive incubation experience and a more cult

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

I'm putting my replies to this in a separate thread, and going to combine responses to Shane and Jim in it too since pTLP is not only related to accepting Stratos as an Apache Incubation project. ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Comput

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On 14 June 2013 15:42, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: > Those are "concerns/issues" with the Incubator. They aren't > a proposal of what to do. For concrete suggestions about how to address the issues in the wiki take a look at the "solutions" section under each issue. All issue have at least on

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

One comment that I wish I could express more clearly: On 6/14/2013 10:42 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: ... * pTLP are nothing different than what existed before there was an Incubator. Yes we have more projects now. So what. We'll continue to have more projects and those will eventually gr

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

Of course, I'm fully supportive of the pTLP concept as I believe it begins to implement parts of the proposal I threw up. BTW, note there aren't a ton of options besides the recent one on the wiki proposed by Bertrand, and added to by Alan, Ant, Ross and a lot of others. Those are "concerns/issues"

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On 14 June 2013 14:45, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> Thanks for your comments Jim. >> >> You will see from the archives that I share most of your concerns >> about probationary TLPs. However a number of IPMC members have argued >> strongly for the

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On 14 June 2013 14:40, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >>... >> I propose we ensure that whatever we put before the board in July has >> an alternative course of action that does not disenfranchise the IPMC > > It is perfectly fine to disenfranchise the

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:31 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thanks for your comments Jim. > > You will see from the archives that I share most of your concerns > about probationary TLPs. However a number of IPMC members have argued > strongly for the concept. > To be clear, the only info that seems "o

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

Thanks Greg, Your pointers (as a director) are useful. As an IPMC member who supports the concept of pTLP I hope you will assist, either during discussion or during review, in ensuring we have sufficient clarity around these items prior to submission to the board (yes I realise that's what this m

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: >... > I propose we ensure that whatever we put before the board in July has > an alternative course of action that does not disenfranchise the IPMC It is perfectly fine to disenfranchise the IPMC. It does not get a blank pass. It must provide

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

Speaking as a Director, the Board will need a *definition* of probation. This is more than just a wiki page. I believe it needs to be a page laid down in www.a.o/dev/ that defines the constraints laid down upon a "pTLP" (I really like Ross' acronym there!). These differences/constraints should effe

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

Thanks for your comments Jim. You will see from the archives that I share most of your concerns about probationary TLPs. However a number of IPMC members have argued strongly for the concept. I do believe there is merit in experimenting with different models of incubation and I do believe the pro

Re: Change of Chair

On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 09:46:21AM +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Benson, > > IPMC chair is one of those jobs that is mostly thankless. I applaud > you for your willingness to take it on and thank you for helping to > bring clarity to the growth issues faced here. I suspect you are > disappointed at

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

FWIW: IMO the Incubator still serves a crucial role in the social and legal aspects of *creating* an Apache project and community. The Probationary TLP opens us up to more risk for what I can see as no real benefit or reduction in effort or resources. Also, the unwash public is aware of the distin

Re: [VOTE] Apache Spark for the Incubator

+1 (non-binding) Andy On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Matei Zaharia wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > Matei > > On Jun 8, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Hitesh Shah wrote: > > > +1 (non-binding) > > > > -- Hitesh > > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (398J) wrote: > > > >> Hi Folks, > >> > >

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Mesos

Thanks Andy! On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Andy Konwinski wrote: > I've regenerated the incubator website and clutch so that the following > live pages are now up to date: > * our status page > * the list of projects page

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Mesos

I've regenerated the incubator website and clutch so that the following live pages are now up to date: * our status page * the list of projects page * our entry on the clutch page

Re: [VOTE] Graduation of Apache Mesos

Thanks Joe for pointing this out, Chris, I beat you to it. I updated the files that the status page and list of projects page (which lists our mentors) are generated from in SVN. Andy On Wed, Jun 12, 2013

Re: Change of Chair

Benson, IPMC chair is one of those jobs that is mostly thankless. I applaud you for your willingness to take it on and thank you for helping to bring clarity to the growth issues faced here. I suspect you are disappointed at having solved he problems some people perceive here. However, I believe y

Re: [DISCUSS] Accept Stratos as an Apache Incubation Project

I'm also +1 (and excited!) on trying out this as a "probationary TLPs", and with doing that using the approaches outlined by Ross and others in other emails on this thread (which is basically having a vote now to accept this as a podling so we can get started and then working up a probationary TLP

Re: Change of Chair

Welcome Marvin. Your message reads exciting. Cheers Christian On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote: > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Benson Margulies > wrote: >> I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend >> Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a

Re: Change of Chair

Thank you for all you did for the Incubator, Benson. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > Incubator community, > > I have tendered my resignation as VP, Incubator. The PMC has recommend > Marvin Humphrey as my successor in a motion submitted to the > Foundation board for c