Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Part of the Apache Way
> is that we admit committers based on their merits. Right now, no one
> outside Cliff's list of commiters has submitted a single patch for
> XMLBeans. I am uncomfortable with *me* having commit rights to xmlbeans
> when I haven't su
On 30/07/2003 23:55 Ted Leung wrote:
If that means that I need to not have commit privileges, I will happily
give them up. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be a committer, I just
want to make sure that we understand the precedent(s) that we are setting.
Please let me know your thoughts on thi
APACHE INCUBATOR PROJECT STATUS: -*-indented-text-*-
Last modified at [$Date: 2003/04/18 16:01:44 $]
The Incubation Process
==
Identify the project to be incubated:
-- Make sure that the requested project name does not already exist
and check w
> From: Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I have a question about your request. The existing ASF people here,
> you, me, and some of the interested others are here to help with the
> community aspects (among others) of the project. Part of the Apache Way
> is that we admit committers based on
Hello, XMLBeans folks
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 14:57:03 -0700
(Subject: XMLBeans incubation status file)
Ted Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's the contents of the incubator/projects/xmlbeans/STATUS file.
> It's a snapshot of where we are in the
> overall incubation process. Please add/dele
Hi folks,
Here's the contents of the incubator/projects/xmlbeans/STATUS file.
It's a snapshot of where we are in the
overall incubation process. Please add/delete and comment
Ted
Tasks for XMLBeans incubation.
* Define incubation exit criteria
* Complete License Grant agreement
* Have all c
On 7/30/2003 2:23 PM, Steven Noels wrote:
Consider me in, if not content-wise than at least to check on how the
project is incubating, and to help on community aspects.
In this respect, I respectfully ask to become part of the initial
group of committers.
Hi Steven,
I have a question about y
On 30/07/2003 23:05 Ted Leung wrote:
Now that the XMLBeans lists are up, I'd invite any interested members
of the incubator to subscribe to the lists. Incubation related messages
will continue
to be sent/copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Consider me in, if not content-wise than at least to check on ho
Now that the XMLBeans lists are up, I'd invite any interested members
of the incubator to subscribe to the lists. Incubation related messages
will continue
to be sent/copied to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ted
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Hi,
Could someone with the right eyebrowse expertise please create mail
archives for
the following mailing lists?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks,
Ted
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On 7/30/2003 11:54 AM, Brian Behlendorf wrote:
Sorry about the delay, now that the cvs trees are moved I can get to this.
Congrats on the new project!
Thanks for doing this. I'll resubmit the subtasks as needed.
Ted
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To u
Sorry about the delay, now that the cvs trees are moved I can get to this.
Congrats on the new project!
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Ted Leung wrote:
> ~ The xml pmc has agreed to accept the xmlbeans project for incubation.
> ~ To aid in the process,
> ~ Please create these below:
>
> [1] Mailing List
>
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 11:36 AM, Ted Leung wrote:
> On 7/30/2003 4:59 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>
>> Ted Leung wrote, On 30/07/2003 12.15:
>>
>>> And can we get it on the website, please?
>>
>>
>> Well, I would personally say no to having the grant itself there.
>> Donations to the AS
On 7/30/2003 4:59 AM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ted Leung wrote, On 30/07/2003 12.15:
And can we get it on the website, please?
Well, I would personally say no to having the grant itself there.
Donations to the ASF should at least come through members IMHO and
having the document there enforc
On 7/30/2003 10:43 AM, Aaron Bannert wrote:
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
If the STATUS file hasn't been updated in 3 months, and you see
something that
needs fixing, update it yourself!
I noticed that you think the incubator PMC is responsible for doing
the *wo
Just a reminder to all on general@ that only the PMC itself
can "vote" on a chair.
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:25 PM, Sam Ruby wrote:
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
i'd also like to nominate myself to take up this gauntlet..
+1
- Sam Ruby
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On 30/07/2003 19:43 Aaron Bannert wrote:
What kind of guidelines would you like to see?
What specific activities do you consider counterproductive, and how do
you propose we improve them?
As much as your suggestions drive me towards a direction I'm already
fully aware of, I think this situation
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:49 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
If the STATUS file hasn't been updated in 3 months, and you see
something that
needs fixing, update it yourself!
I noticed that you think the incubator PMC is responsible for doing
the *work*
of incubation. That is a false assumption.
Rodent of Unusual Size wrote:
i'd also like to nominate myself to take up this gauntlet..
+1
- Sam Ruby
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Roy T. Fielding wrote:
>
> My opinion is that we will continue to meander around until someone
> who gives a rat's ass about some new project volunteers to set up
> the incubation process. Right now, nobody even wants to chair the PMC
> because anyone who attempts to lead is shot down and everyon
i agree with aaron (i think).
i think that if a project coming into the incubator has a
sponsoring project (i.e., an existing asf project will become
its home), then it should be up to the sponsor and the podling
to decide which route to follow for the mailing lists. if the
podling *doesn't* have
On 30/07/2003 18:21 Aaron Bannert wrote:
Yes, please discuss it here on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Private email is the
absolute
worst place for these types of discussions.
That private mail, and even IRL talk, started literally _months_ ago
when Cliff from BEA approached me during a tradeshow to talk ab
Daniel Guermeur wrote:
> Could someone tell us more about this PMC chair vacancy?
the pmc chair provides oversight of the project and reports
to the asf board. all asf projects have such a person; all
also have a project management committee (pmc) which steers
the project in the right direction.
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 03:15 AM, Ted Leung wrote:
Yes, I've looked at the STATUS file. You can't miss it -- it's
autoposted every week. That doesn't change that the file hasn't been
updated in 3 months. Yes, the CLAs and the software grant are being
worked on. The code is being s
Could someone tell us more about this PMC chair vacancy?
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Steven Noels wrote, On 30/07/2003 14.36:
On 30/07/2003 13:59 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
And can we get it on the website, please?
Well, I would personally say no to having the grant itself there.
On the website.
Donations to the ASF should at least come through members IMHO and
having the docume
On 30/07/2003 13:59 Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
And can we get it on the website, please?
Well, I would personally say no to having the grant itself there.
Donations to the ASF should at least come through members IMHO and
having the document there enforces it. I'll just add a note pointing to
Ted Leung wrote, On 30/07/2003 12.15:
...
Could we start by answering my question from 7/22 on the correct version
of the software license grant document?
I count three at the moment.
1) http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=incubator-general&m=104803185122794&w=2
2) foundation/software-grant.txt
3) f
Nicola Ken Barozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Which rules make you so tired? I just blocked the creation of some
> resources for less than a week, and you are already tired? It takes
> years to build good communities, and patience is a virtue. I don't
> honestly think that some days will ruin it
i'd also like to nominate myself to take up this gauntlet..
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On 7/29/2003 11:51 PM, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ted Leung wrote, On 29/07/2003 20.11:
...
Why are you blaming the XMLBeans guys for your not having your act
together?
I'm not blaming them in any way, Ted. I'm surprised that this is what
you have gathered from my mails, and if this is the ca
On 7/29/2003 2:54 PM, Paul Hammant wrote:
Folks,
It seems there is enough discord over XMLBeans here, to warrant
letting one slide for the sake of the peace.
If CVS is set-up, let it be as is.
If Mail lists are set-up, let them be as they are.
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For future projects the PMC has decided that
Tis probably not the done thing to nominate yerself for PMC chair, but
given that we have a vacancy, and nobody is popping my name into the
fray, I'd like to propose me.
Who Am I ?
* Paul Hammant? Aged 35, London based consultant
* PMC Member for Incubator for a couple of months.
* Apache co
> From: Ted Leung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:10 AM
>>You do realize that I'm neither a member of the Incubator PMC nor do I
>>support its existence. Create the mail list. The name shouldn't be up to
>>the Incubator, it should be up to the XML PMC. Its you're ba
On 7/29/2003 3:06 PM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On 7/29/03 2:11 PM, "Ted Leung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 7/29/2003 10:33 AM, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On 7/29/03 1:01 PM, "Nicola Ken Barozzi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That is an excellent idea.
Why are you blaming t
On 7/29/2003 2:50 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
I've no issue with rules, except when we say we have rules but can't
articulate them. Example #1. What should the names of the mailing
lists and CVS be? [EMAIL PROTECTED] or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
We don't have that rule. Nicola Ken suggested creatin
On 30/07/2003 0:13 Michael Wechner wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
If it comes to (a) vote(s), anybody's opinion is appreciated, so
please speak up. Binding votes about the Cocoon guidelines can be cast
by Cocoon committers only - the original members of the 'founding' PMC
that is.
I guess that
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