Re: what 3rd party boot mgr is required to boot multiple freebsd versions?

2020-03-16 Thread Karl Denninger
On 3/16/2020 17:33, Chris wrote: > On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 17:24:24 -0500 Karl Denninger k...@denninger.net said > >> On 3/16/2020 17:23, Chris wrote: >> > I'm attempting to boot multiple versions of FreeBSD. >> > I started with an install of older 11 with a (u)e

Re: what 3rd party boot mgr is required to boot multiple freebsd versions?

2020-03-16 Thread Karl Denninger
> Should I just convert the 1st efi (GPT) boot partition > to a PMBR, and delete the second efi partition. Or is > there a recommended bootmanager I can use to boot multiple > versions of FreeBSD? Windows? > > Thank you! > > --Chris > Refind perhaps? -- Karl Denninger k..

Apparently FIXED: Re: Pkg repository is broken...

2020-03-07 Thread Karl Denninger
iq -c >112 FreeBSD:12:* >219 FreeBSD:12:amd64 > > Note that you could also export ALTABI to the environment or set it > in /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf, but I figured that I might forget it in > there. > > Also, it seems like none of my packages were affected and not setting

Re: Pkg repository is broken...

2020-03-06 Thread karl
Still effed here. -- Karl (on PDA)   Original Message   From: g...@freebsd.org Sent: March 6, 2020 18:38 To: lars.eng...@0x20.net; marco+freebsd-curr...@lordsith.net; freebsd-current@freebsd.org; freebsd-po...@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Pkg repository is broken... On Friday,  6 March 2020

Re: HELP: UEFI/ZFS Boot failure: Ignoring Boot000A: Only one DP found

2019-08-21 Thread Karl Denninger
the E, it is not a L or T model) does have such a shell. > > Regards, > oh I would see if you can get REFIND loaded and use that.  I have a Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 6 and that's the answer I used, as it allows multi-boot (e.g. Win10 and FreeBSD) easily. I've not had trouble wi

Re: UEFI firmware and getting FreeBSD recognized by default: who to talk to?

2019-06-23 Thread Karl Denninger
On 6/23/2019 02:36, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Karl Denninger and my previous post: > >>> This is scary (Bitlocker), sent me to Wikipedia to look up Bitlocker. >>> >>> Can you turn Bitlocker off after turning it on and get your system back? >> You SHOULD

Re: UEFI firmware and getting FreeBSD recognized by default: who to talk to?

2019-06-22 Thread Karl Denninger
On 6/22/2019 20:16, Thomas Mueller wrote: > from Karl Denninger: > >> On 6/22/2019 14:05, Rebecca Cran wrote: >>> On 2019-06-22 12:59, Karl Denninger wrote: >>>> I use Refind for this sort of thing and it has (thus far!) survived >>>> upgrades. 

Re: UEFI firmware and getting FreeBSD recognized by default: who to talk to?

2019-06-22 Thread karl
Like it or not UEFI BIOS firmware frequently not only sucks it also violates the alleged "rules" as to what it should support. - Karl (on PDA)   Original Message   From: rebe...@bluestop.org Sent: June 22, 2019 17:31 To: k...@denninger.net; freebsd-current@freebsd.o

Re: UEFI firmware and getting FreeBSD recognized by default: who to talk to?

2019-06-22 Thread Karl Denninger
On 6/22/2019 14:05, Rebecca Cran wrote: > On 2019-06-22 12:59, Karl Denninger wrote: >> I use Refind for this sort of thing and it has (thus far!) survived >> upgrades.  The only "gotcha" is that I had a Windows 10 "Feature" >> upgrade that reset the de

Re: UEFI firmware and getting FreeBSD recognized by default: who to talk to?

2019-06-22 Thread Karl Denninger
Refind for this sort of thing and it has (thus far!) survived upgrades.  The only "gotcha" is that I had a Windows 10 "Feature" upgrade that reset the default boot in the firmware to Windows; it didn't damage anything but did require that I go reset the UEFI default to boot th

Re: FreeBSD and Coreboot

2019-05-27 Thread Karl Denninger
problem. I don't know > whether they use GRUB or Seabios. (Aside: I'm thinking about ordering > some of these boards for my own use, so I'm generally interested in how > well they function with FreeBSD) > PCEngines machines run just fine with FreeBSD; I use and s

Re: GPT boot has less features than legacy MBR-based one (Was: UEFI, loader.efi and /boot.config)

2019-01-19 Thread Karl Denninger
ve is not terribly hard, so there's a *reasonable* recovery path available. I've not found a reliable way to do that sort of thing with many of the "newer" small-board devices and I really like it on, for example, my apu2 firewall appliances that I and others are using all over

-CURRENT "installworld" fails if not upgrading (e.g. building via Crochet)

2018-10-18 Thread Karl Denninger
build into "empty" media (not an upgrade) -- should the "DB_FROM_SRC" be detected on its own or is this just a Crochet screwball thing? -- Karl Denninger k...@denninger.net <mailto:k...@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Recent commits to -HEAD blow up cross-compile for PI3 (and possibly others)

2018-01-15 Thread Karl Denninger
1, 0b11011, "fcvtzu", fp_to_uint>; Off -HEAD revision 328011 attempting to build with: FreeBSD 11.1-STABLE #21 r327332M: Thu Dec 28 20:54:24 CST 2017 k...@newfs.denninger.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/KSD-SMP -- Karl Denninger k...@denninger.net <mailto:k...@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: SMART: disk problems on RAIDZ1 pool: (ada6:ahcich6:0:0:0): CAMstatus: ATA Status Error

2017-12-23 Thread Karl Denninger
at, I'm disappointed about the fact that WD has also > implemented this > "timebomb" Load_Cycle_Count issue. > > Thanks a lot for your help and considerations! > > Kind regards, > Oliver I have a fairly large number of HGST "NAS" drives in service

Re: Crochet build for Pi3 fails to boot on r313441 (and later), works on r313109

2017-02-09 Thread Karl Denninger
On 2/9/2017 15:39, Oleksandr Tymoshenko wrote: > Toomas Soome (tso...@me.com) wrote: >>> On 9. veebr 2017, at 17:05, Karl Denninger wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 2/9/2017 08:58, Toomas Soome wrote: >>>>> On 9. veebr 2017, at 16:36, Ka

Re: Crochet build for Pi3 fails to boot on r313441 (and later), works on r313109

2017-02-09 Thread Karl Denninger
On 2/9/2017 08:58, Toomas Soome wrote: >> On 9. veebr 2017, at 16:36, Karl Denninger wrote: >> >> >> On 2/8/2017 16:18, Karl Denninger wrote: >>> r313441 blows up on the Pi3 in /boot/loader.efi with: >>> >>> FreeBSD/arm64 EFI loader,

Re: Crochet build for Pi3 fails to boot on r313441 (and later), works on r313109

2017-02-09 Thread Karl Denninger
On 2/8/2017 16:18, Karl Denninger wrote: > r313441 blows up on the Pi3 in /boot/loader.efi with: > > FreeBSD/arm64 EFI loader, Revision 1.1 > (Tue Feb 7 15:15:52 CST 2017 free...@newfs.denninger.net) > Failed to start image provided by UFS (14) > "Synchronous Abort" h

Crochet build for Pi3 fails to boot on r313441 (and later), works on r313109

2017-02-08 Thread Karl Denninger
and 313441 in the loader.efi and arm64 pieces of sys.. any ideas what boogered it? (Also have posted on this in -arm, but since it's Pi3 specific and that machine is -HEAD dependent is this the better place for it?) -- Karl Denninger k...@denninger.net <mailto:k...@denninger.net> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Survey results very helpful, thanks!

2010-03-08 Thread Karl Denninger
nge to the wild wild net for 6-8 hours in the evening doing what its doing now (handling a very busy forum) plus a few hundred videocast streams The last reboot was to replace a power strip in the colo rack with one that had remote management capability. It hasn't actually crash

Re: 5.1 - stl Kernel compile fails

2003-10-29 Thread Karl M. Joch
David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 08:11:53AM +0100, Karl M. Joch wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 08:11:33AM +0100, Karl M. Joch wrote: i added a stallion easy i/o to a 5.1 box. compiling the kernel fails with a lot of errors in stallion.c. any chance that this gets corrected

Re: 5.1 - stl Kernel compile fails

2003-10-29 Thread Karl M. Joch
David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 08:11:33AM +0100, Karl M. Joch wrote: i added a stallion easy i/o to a 5.1 box. compiling the kernel fails with a lot of errors in stallion.c. any chance that this gets corrected soon? Is this an ISA or PCI card? it is an easy i/o 8 PCI ca

Re: 5.1 - stl Kernel compile fails

2003-10-28 Thread Karl M. Joch
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 08:11:33AM +0100, Karl M. Joch wrote: i added a stallion easy i/o to a 5.1 box. compiling the kernel fails with a lot of errors in stallion.c. any chance that this gets corrected soon? Post the errors you're seeing so we don't have to gu

5.1 - stl Kernel compile fails

2003-10-28 Thread Karl M. Joch
i added a stallion easy i/o to a 5.1 box. compiling the kernel fails with a lot of errors in stallion.c. any chance that this gets corrected soon? -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch http://www.freebsd.at - Das Power Betriebssystem

5.1 and Pervasive SQL in Linux Emu (7) -> tty stopped output

2003-07-26 Thread Karl M. Joch
the following script starts psql without problems on 4.8 with linux base 6. with 5.1 and linux base 7 it looks like su hangs. scripts doenst complete and ends with tty output stopped. there is also something very strange: when starting pervasive in forground mode i get a listener and it works.

RELENG_5_1 doesnt build gifconfig

2003-07-12 Thread Karl M. Joch
freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

5.1 missing /dev/nrsa0 ?

2003-07-02 Thread Karl M. Joch
/dev and are not created when e.g. running amlabel which would label the tape. do i oversee something? -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctseuro.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http

Re: 5.1 on a production box with some small problems (su, linux emu7)

2003-06-28 Thread Karl M. Joch
WSTOPSIG(statusp) != SIGTTIN) + kill(getpid(), SIGSTOP); child_pgrp = getpgid(child_pid); tcsetpgrp(1, child_pgrp); kill(child_pid, SIGCONT); [EMAIL PROTECTED]

5.1 on a production box with some small problems (su, linux emu 7)

2003-06-27 Thread Karl M. Joch
a solution would be really great because this slows down the database access dramaticly. -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Karl M. Joch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ctseuro.com ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mail

Re: Compiling under 5.x for 4.x releases?

2003-06-14 Thread Karl Denninger
Thanks; I guess that means that for now I keep the production build machine is 4.8-STABLE, and I keep 5.x as a "play" environment until people move over. The fun will begin when migration begins in significant numbers, but I still need to support both! -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL

Re: Compiling under 5.x for 4.x releases?

2003-06-14 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 09:43:01AM -0700, Doug White wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > Can it be done with a command-line switch to the compiler or gcc, or am I > > consigned to dual-booting? > > You mean building apps linked against 4.X libs vs.

Compiling under 5.x for 4.x releases?

2003-06-14 Thread Karl Denninger
Can it be done with a command-line switch to the compiler or gcc, or am I consigned to dual-booting? I know the libraries are there for runtime, but can you build executables for them? -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger

Compaq Presario 2140US w/Current - no mouse/pointpad?!

2003-06-13 Thread Karl Denninger
ssages once in a while during state changes such as from battery to AC) everything ELSE appears to work properly. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.netTired of spam at your company? LOOK HERE! http://childrens-just

Re: Troubles installing 5.0-RC2 on a Thinkpad560

2003-01-10 Thread Karl-Petter Åkesson
wrote: I installed FreeBSD 5.0-RC2 on a 560E with the 'ed' driver last week. You must re-roll ALOT of stuff to get it working since the kern.flp stuff doesn't have OLDCARD support. I can provide you with modified floppies if you like. On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, [ISO-8859-1] Karl-Pette

Troubles installing 5.0-RC2 on a Thinkpad560

2003-01-09 Thread Karl-Petter Åkesson
) unknown: can't assign resources (port) unknown: can't assign resources (port) Best Regards, Kalle -- -- Karl-Petter Åkesson SICS - Swedish Institute of Computer Science AB http://www.sics.se/~kalle/contact.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

parallel ports

2002-09-07 Thread karl agee
.0-DP1, if I want to print, eh? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: make: don't know how to make bsd.README. Stop

2002-08-02 Thread karl agee
ok...its crashing here, now.I've deleted the /usr/src/gnu directory and re-cvsuped it, but it still_crashes: /usr/src/contrib/gcc/config/i386/freebsd.h:208:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition In file included from /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/

Re: make: don't know how to make bsd.README. Stop

2002-08-02 Thread karl agee
well, it's running now... I deleted the /usr/src/share/mk directory, and re-cvsup'ed it...it downloaded new files and she is going now... maybe we'll get this puppy up and running the way I want it now... -karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubsc

Re: make: don't know how to make bsd.README. Stop

2002-08-02 Thread Karl Agee
At 08:56 PM 8/2/2002 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: >On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 08:17:19PM -0700, karl agee wrote: > > the crash occurs right after the process starts..here's the entire > > output: > > > > su-2.05a# make buildworld > > > >I just built world w

make: don't know how to make bsd.README. Stop

2002-08-02 Thread karl agee
the crash occurs right after the process starts..here's the entire output: su-2.05a# make buildworld -- >>> Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/i386

Fwd: <3CLUG> !!!! [mikael.olsson@clavister.com: openssh-3.4p1.tar.gz distribution recently trojaned] !!!!

2002-08-01 Thread Karl Agee
FYIfrom my Linux User Group maillist. --karl >X-Authentication-Warning: quince.tricity.wsu.edu: majordomo set sender to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] using -f >Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:20:48 -0700 >From: Ed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: <3CLUG> !!

Re: make buildworld crashing

2002-07-30 Thread karl agee
k bsd.port.subdir.mk bsd.prog.mk bsd.subdir.mk bsd.sys.mk sys.mk /usr/share/mk then I ran make buildworld and it crashed as before. maybe I'll update my source later today and try it again. --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

make buildworld crashing

2002-07-29 Thread karl agee
I just updated my source and running make buildworld crashes here: cd /usr/src/usr.bin/makewhatis; make DIRPRFX=usr.bin/makewhatis/ obj; make DIRPRFX=usr.bin/makewhatis/ depend; make DIRPRFX=usr.bin/makewhatis/ all; make DIRPRFX=usr.bin/makewhatis/ DESTDIR=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 install /usr/o

Re: -current now really bad

2002-07-28 Thread karl agee
> it). I get no crash dumps, and have to physically power the machine down. uh oh, I'm downloading -current source right_now... 8-( --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

firewall support?

2002-07-27 Thread karl agee
is firewall support built into the -current kernel or does it need to be compiled in? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

printing woes: PROBLEM IDENTIFIED

2002-07-27 Thread karl agee
t to print it crashes instantly. So there's a problem with the -current kernel. Anyone else seen this?? (I've contributed somewhat to freebsd development...I'm so proud..) --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-27 Thread karl agee
Here's the salient section of my printcap made up by apsfilter; what should I edit here?? # APS1_BEGIN:printer1 # - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1 # - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL lp|ljet2p;r=600x600;q=high;c=gray;p=letter;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\

Re: system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-27 Thread karl agee
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 09:25, karl agee wrote to recap: > > > > > system: FreeBSD enterprise.workgroup 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Jul >23 16:07:44 PDT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEWKERNEL i386 > > > > trying to print to a p

Re: system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-27 Thread karl agee
On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 00:21, David Wolfskill wrote: > >From: karl agee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: 26 Jul 2002 20:44:24 -0700 > > >> If this is a networked printer, then you'll probably want to > >> use lpr but skip apsfilter. > > >Ex

kernel crash when rebooting old kernel

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
Ok, I tried rebooting to my old orig kernel (5.0-DP1) to see if it helped my printing issue. well, this happened when I rebooted: Panic: Malloc type lacks magic Debugger ("panic") stopped at Debugger+0x40 xorl%eax, %eax ????? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 18:43, karl agee wrote: > ok, what's going on here??? > > system: 5.0-current. > > trying to print to a post script laser printer which works fine in the > past. setup using apsfilter. > > When I attempt to print any file from any progra

Re: system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
On Fri, 2002-07-26 at 19:24, Garance A Drosihn wrote: > At 6:43 PM -0700 7/26/02, karl agee wrote: > >system: 5.0-current. > > > >trying to print to a post script laser printer which works fine > >in the past. setup using apsfilter. > > > >When I attempt

system crashes; reboots when printing

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
when this happens. I also run setiathome. I've noticed that when this happens the seti workunit progress is lost and it starts where it left off at the last session. --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

is linux compatibility broken???

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
is linux compatibility broken??? I need to upgrade my linux-base from 6.1.1 to 7.1 so I can install realplayeram I in for a rude awakening if I do?? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

where's perl???

2002-07-26 Thread karl agee
an1/perl.1.gz /usr/src/usr.bin/perl I checked various files to see if I could edit anything but there was nothing obvious. Should I make a link to /usr/bin/perl? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Mission Accomplished!!!

2002-07-23 Thread karl agee
heh. Thanks to y'all I finally accomplished my goal--I've got my DP-1 kernel recompiled for sound and updated my system to -current AND I am listening to a cd on my freebsd box. heh heh Not bad for an old fart geek, eh? --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: kernel compile errors 5.0-DP1

2002-07-22 Thread Karl Agee
At 02:04 AM 7/23/2002 +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: >On Mon, 22 Jul 2002 15:51:14 -0700 Karl Agee wrote: > > > config -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEWKERNEL > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NEWKERNEL > > config: Device "pci" requires a count > &g

kernel compile errors 5.0-DP1

2002-07-22 Thread Karl Agee
r/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. --karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

What happens when pressing "a key to reboot"

2000-10-02 Thread Karl M. Joch
ind it out, because not beeing able to reboot and not beeing able to use apm is not really fun sometimes. especially where current works really fine on my notebook and a older siemens P75 dual CPU box. thanks, regards, Karl M. Joch To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsu

Re: ESS1879 hwptr went backward?

2000-09-27 Thread Karl M. Joch
current brought me to start learn C. till now i only know BS2000 assembler, cobol and perl. btw, i am more or less new to this list. if my mails are placed wrong here please tell me. best regards, karl -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Kenneth Wayne Culver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: Karl M

ESS1879 hwptr went backward?

2000-09-27 Thread Karl M. Joch
error. as usual without any hints under windows. already slowed down to 9600. no success. browsing the gsm fones data works. there is one message when booting: isa0: too many dependant configs (8). ?? -- thanks for any tips. Karl _ Do

new buildworld brings most of the notebook back to work

2000-09-26 Thread Karl M. Joch
works like the reboot. best regards, Karl __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Notebook Status after CVSup again

2000-09-22 Thread Karl M. Joch
ko's still prints Exec format error (+undefined lines see later) and doesnt load. except that it runs fine. KDE/X, Samba and everything else looks like running smoothly. best regards, Karl enclosed some lines of messages: Sep 22 14:53:35 notebook /boot/kernel/kernel: fdc0: direction bi

Notebook & current rebooting problems

2000-09-21 Thread Karl M. Joch
problems at boot time. but artsd from kde2/b5 locks the pc when it is startet. many thanks for any hints. Best rgards, / Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Karl M. Joch _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To

Re: DPT revision....(broken drivers in -STABLE)

2000-08-26 Thread Karl Pielorz
ort that out for you, if your interested - mail me off list... -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Your misleading, no, LYING message to me

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:55:50PM -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (message from Karl > Dennin

One final note and a "bite me" to you

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
d that's enough for me. As for you Paol, perhaps some day you'll stop trying to bullshit people. Occasionally when you do that you run into someone who has AT LEAST a single class in physical science and understands the uncertainty of measurements. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: Majordomo results: which]

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
Doesn't change the facts Gary. This isn't the first time either Gary. Plausable deniability isn't going to wash here. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to d

Re: [Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: Majordomo results: which]

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
Uh, Matthew, I have the system logs here. I'm root. There was no bounce. And yes, I do know how SMTP works too. Nice try though. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:58:57PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > Karl, I was my hands of this conversation. You aren't listening. > > We have custom hardware. We're a control and measurement system. The > <10ns is needed for that control and measurement part. The sy

[Majordomo@FreeBSD.ORG: Majordomo results: which]

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
my subscription to several of the lists? -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to do exactly that! - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:37:31PM -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > How many millions does Paol have to count in HIS bank as a result of this > > shilling and "advocacy"? > > > > SOME OF US have *REAL* successes

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:31:22PM -0500, Bill Fumerola wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > Why the hell Walnut Creek wastes their money on your type REMAINS beyond > > my comprehension. > > It really hasn't been a problem for anyone but you.

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
ence to those of us who want to keep time on our networks. It is precisely this kind of elitism and bullshit that I continually run into when trying to deal with the "treehouse" FreeBSD kids, and in this particular instance its so blatent that I simply refuse to shut up about it. -- --

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:17:59PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all > > > the helpful answers you have gotten so far, you should consider > >

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:13:10PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 04:53:55PM -0600, Karl Denninger wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > ..snip.. > > > If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes&q

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:50:35PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl Denninger writes: > : Yes, you have HARDWARE timers that do that. > : > : So what? > : > : I'm talking about TIME SERVERS on UNIX machines. > > So am I. >

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:49:08PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > >On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: >

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:42:24PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl Denninger writes: > : And on what hardware do you think you can obtain 10ns resolution RELIABLY > : at the software level in the Unix environment and under FreeBSD? > :

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 11:17:00PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > > > >Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge? > > > >For the Motorola name? Sorry, the Batwing Menace to employee&#

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 03:32:00PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl Denninger writes: > : Why spend twice what Mr. Schwartz seems to want to charge? > > Because we need a PPS that is < 10nS from the true start of second for > our applicatio

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 02:33:35PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Karl Denninger writes: > : That's EXPENSIVE. > > Worth every penny. We've seen sub-micro second syncronization with > our unit on good hardware, and 1-2us on the 48

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
That sucks severely - NONE of the common units have the PPS output?! Barf. Oh well. -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to do exactly that! On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 05:42

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
$605.73 for the one I'm delivering to the Danish Internet eXchange > point, that included antenna and 15m of cable. That's EXPENSIVE. Common handheld GPS units with NEMA outputs on them are well under $200 these days! -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://childrens-

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 12:22:38PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > > >> >Well... that won't help the 20 or so boxes here doing this all the > >> >time: > >> >Jan 1 11:26:46 gndrsh x

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-02 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 12:20:35PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > > >> >> Anyway, ntpd4 is in CURRENT... > >> > > >> >Now it is. > >> > > >> >And it works corr

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
th OK, then we have a code problem... You have a code problem ;-) I can confirm this behavior; its been consistent with xntpd for a LONG time, which is why I raised the issue (it FINALLY got to the top of my "annoyance" list). -- -- Karl Denninger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Web: http://child

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:31:25AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > > >Yes, and my driftfile had that parameter in there. Uhm, Poul, remember I've > >been at this for just a LITTLE while. Xntpd is something

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:15:13AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > >On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > >>

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 01:17:15AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Polstra writes: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > >Karl Denninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> It looks like ntpd (the new o

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 11:11:51AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karl Denninger writes: > > >This is not a port, its part of the RELEASE! > > > >Its several YEARS old, and doesn't work right - you get lots of STEP change

Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

2000-01-01 Thread Karl Denninger
On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 09:33:31AM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Karl Denninger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What does (someone) need to do to get this changed out/updated? I can't > > send it in as a port, si

xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-)

1999-12-31 Thread Karl Denninger
27;m still verifying it, but it's certainly better than what is in the tree right now!) What does (someone) need to do to get this changed out/updated? I can't send it in as a port, since its part of the base package (setting it up as a port would be pretty trivial from what I can see) -

Re: Hang on biord? [ Appears only on my system? :( ] - Update

1999-07-10 Thread Karl Pielorz
Karl Pielorz wrote: > > Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > Make sure you have the absolute latest CURRENT. There was a situation > > that broken current a week or so ago for 2 days that could result > > in processes getting stuck in biord on SMP boxes.

Re: Latest currents 'hang' on biord? [ Appears only on my system? :( ]

1999-07-10 Thread Karl Pielorz
g another buildworld to see if that works... Cheers, -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Latest currents 'hang' on biord? [ Appears only on my system? :( ]

1999-07-09 Thread Karl Pielorz
63 S/T, 512 B/S wd3: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0003, dmamword = 0407, apio = 0003, udma = Any suggestions? - I'd guess it's not a very prolific problem, as no one else seems to have the same symptoms? :( -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Difference between building and running under -current vs. 3.2-Release?

1999-07-09 Thread Karl Pielorz
ild and run at all, I'll have to back it down to 3.2-Release... The machine is a P2-450, w/512mb RAM. The 3.2-Release box is a Pentium 233 with 64Mb of RAM. If it can't be fixed, or no one has any time I'll just back the box down to 3.2 - I just thought it would be nice to t

Re: something's wrong with the in the last 24 hours with the sources

1999-04-07 Thread Karl Pielorz
Tomer Weller wrote: > > doesn't matter how much i attempt to cvsup and make world in the last 24 hours > i get this error, this is after i made world while interducing EGCS to > FreeBSD, > i had to do another make world cuz my C++ compiler couldn't make executables > and that produces this situ

Re: Spontaneous reboots

1999-03-23 Thread Karl Pielorz
nice piece of wood to touch), I've not seen any reboots on either for quite a long time (i.e>months) :) -Karl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: FTP client dies when not in passive mode?

1999-03-16 Thread Karl Pielorz
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > See the ftp(1) manpage for an explanation. I know about the command line/environment variables that can be used to override this - but it's still annoying (see below)... > In future, please refer general questions related to FreeBSD to the > freebsd-questions mailing list

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