Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 18.02.2014 15:44, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:01:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> Hi Cedric! >> >> On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: >> [...] >>> So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run >>> efreet_desktop_cache_create aft

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 18.02.2014 15:42, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:50:58 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer >>> said: >>> Hi Jeff, are you hones

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:01:22 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hi Cedric! > > On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: > [...] > > So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run > > efreet_desktop_cache_create afterward (can be found in > > /usr/lib/efreet/v-1.9/) ? I saw that pro

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:50:58 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer > > said: > > > >> Hi Jeff, > >> > >> are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback > >> on t

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Yes, I think this it is a good way; I use it manually to make my tests now. I think it can be automated with a "small" script which does that, that is test if previous connexion is available, and if not "wlist" the available and ask the user necessary data if needed. Thank you. Le 18/02/2014

Re: [e-users] ppa for e17 for jessie ?

Thank you, I am quiting Ubuntu for debian+e17 so I am still ubuntu oriented... Le 18/02/2014 02:45, Jeff Hoogland a écrit : > As far as I'm aware PPAs are an Ubuntu thing - they don't support Debian. > > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > >> Is there a "stable" ppa for en

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 13:08:28 +0900 Florian Schaefer wrote: > On 18.02.2014 12:22, P Purkayastha wrote: > [...] > > Latest git has got window focus issues. Stay away from git if you > > want stable software. Most stable is the latest e17 release. I > > would hold e18 releases as next in stability.

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:36:13 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:51:35 +0900 Cedric BAIL > said: > > > Hello, > > > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland > > wrote: > > > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've > > > compil

Re: [e-users] Can you force a confirmation dialog before closing a window?

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:42:36 -0800 Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 08:23:52AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > Would you be ok with adding a 'confirm closing' dialog as an > > > option (off by default of course)? > > > > i wouldn't have a problem with that as an option... just s

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Hi there! On 18.02.2014 12:39, mh wrote: [...] > Another possibility for the missing icons is apparently an efreet bug. I > filled out a phab bug report on this: > > https://phab.enlightenment.org/T870 Yes, seems to be the same thing. I actually knew that you reported this before and that you w

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 18.02.2014 12:22, P Purkayastha wrote: [...] > Latest git has got window focus issues. Stay away from git if you want > stable software. Most stable is the latest e17 release. I would hold e18 > releases as next in stability. But then people are also writing "don't use e17, it's old as hell".

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Hi Cedric! On 18.02.2014 10:51, Cedric BAIL wrote: [...] > So you did destroy ~/.cache/efreet/ ? Did you try to manually run > efreet_desktop_cache_create afterward (can be found in > /usr/lib/efreet/v-1.9/) ? I saw that problem once in the past week, > and Carsten to, but it did vanish after a re

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 18.02.2014 11:34, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > >> Hi Jeff, >> >> are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback >> on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a >> better produ

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 02/17/2014 10:22 PM, P Purkayastha wrote: > On 02/18/2014 08:20 AM, Florian Schaefer wrote: >> One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so >> often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at >> some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the f

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On 02/18/2014 08:20 AM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > One of them is related to window focus. I use sloppy focus and ever so > often it goes astray: I have, e.g., a java application, Pauker, that at > some point emits some kind of "alert", getting the focus. However, the > window is at that time on ano

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 09:20:19 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hello enlightenment, > > thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing > piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though, > lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least)

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:47:42 +0900 Florian Schaefer said: > Hi Jeff, > > are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback > on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a > better product? ;-) don't worry florian... we care. what we would like is if you

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:51:35 +0900 Cedric BAIL said: > Hello, > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland > wrote: > > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled > > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent > > software use the *re

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Try using the repository at http://www.vin-dit.org/ . I haven't tried it myself, as I compile from source, but it seems relatively up to date. You could also use the native Debian ifupdown system to bring up your wireless connection on system startup. Edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, and

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Sure, we need people testing things. If you want to provide feedback that is useful you should be filing bug reports on Phab -> phab.enlightenment.org You ARE going to have issues with compiling from GIT though. It is unstable by design. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote:

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Hello, On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Jeff Hoogland wrote: > Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled > from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent > software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason. I will disagree with you here

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Hi Jeff, are you honestly complaining about a user trying to give some feedback on the software he loves to use in order to help turning it into a better product? ;-) So you propose that all my issues will be solved just by using e-0.18.3 and efl-1.8.5? If so I will give it a shot. It's just tha

Re: [e-users] ppa for e17 for jessie ?

As far as I'm aware PPAs are an Ubuntu thing - they don't support Debian. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Pierre Couderc wrote: > Is there a "stable" ppa for enlightenment ? > By "stable", I want to say, e17 (or e18...) not fully up to date but > maintained without big bug or bad regression.

[e-users] ppa for e17 for jessie ?

Is there a "stable" ppa for enlightenment ? By "stable", I want to say, e17 (or e18...) not fully up to date but maintained without big bug or bad regression. I ask because I cannot use connman/e17 "official" packages as it is not enabled in jessie. Thank you all. -

Re: [e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Are you honestly complaining about issues with software you've compiled from a development repository? If you want super stable, consistent software use the *releases*. They are there for a reason. On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Florian Schaefer wrote: > Hello enlightenment, > > thanks to eve

[e-users] Some issues with the current state of E

Hello enlightenment, thanks to everybody for their hard efforts in developing this amazing piece of software. Been using E for 10+ years now (I guess). Though, lately it is making my life a bit more difficult (to say the least) and I am getting to the point where I seriously considered switching t

Re: [e-users] Can you force a confirmation dialog before closing a window?

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 15:42:36 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 08:23:52AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > Would you be ok with adding a 'confirm closing' dialog as an option (off > > > by default of course)? > > > > i wouldn't have a problem with that as an option... just so

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:01:18 + Mick said: > Hi All, > > My laptop and its battery are approaching 5 years old and therefore the end > of the latter's useful life. Its charge has been reducing noticeably over > time. Recently, while running on battery it suddenly died on me. I was > surpris

Re: [e-users] Can you force a confirmation dialog before closing a window?

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 08:23:52AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > Would you be ok with adding a 'confirm closing' dialog as an option (off by > > default of course)? > > i wouldn't have a problem with that as an option... just someone has to do > it. :) Wait, e18 doesn't have a gateway that c

Re: [e-users] Can you force a confirmation dialog before closing a window?

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 08:57:26 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:00:21PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:42:38 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > > > > window menu -> locks -> "prevent this window from being closed". > > Thanks, that's a reasonable workaround,

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 14:53:12 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > > >> Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +01

Re: [e-users] E18 -- Lid Closed <--> Suspend binding

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:44:53 +0100 "Mailing List (GMail)" said: > Hello folks! > > I'm running Archlinux with E18 (0.18.3) on a Thinkpad Edge E130 for a > few days now. > > While checking the "ACPI Bindings" I have noticed that the "Lid Closed" > event is bound to "Suspend". > However, if I c

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 16:37:38 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > Le 17/02/2014 16:10, rob a écrit : > > On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote: > >> Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc > >>> said: > >>> > Le 17

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

On Monday 17 Feb 2014 17:55:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 17/02/2014 17:46, Mick wrote: > > On Monday 17 Feb 2014 15:18:24 Will Hopper wrote: > >> FWIW, I second what Alan said - i have the same problem with an old > >> netbook battery, and I think it is a problem with what the battery is > >> repor

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Thank you all, for all this data. I shall build it myself so... But I do not like that... PC Le 17/02/2014 18:30, rob a écrit : > On 17/02/14 15:37, Pierre Couderc wrote: >> Le 17/02/2014 16:10, rob a écrit : >>> On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote: Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler

[e-users] E18 -- Lid Closed <--> Suspend binding

Hello folks! I'm running Archlinux with E18 (0.18.3) on a Thinkpad Edge E130 for a few days now. While checking the "ACPI Bindings" I have noticed that the "Lid Closed" event is bound to "Suspend". However, if I close the lid, the notebook is not suspended but only the screen is blanked. Susp

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

On 17/02/2014 17:46, Mick wrote: > On Monday 17 Feb 2014 15:18:24 Will Hopper wrote: >> FWIW, I second what Alan said - i have the same problem with an old netbook >> battery, and I think it is a problem with what the battery is reporting, >> because sometimes the bios pauses before start up and c

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

On 17/02/14 15:37, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > Le 17/02/2014 16:10, rob a écrit : >> On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote: >>> Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitz

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Pierre Couderc, il 17/02/2014 16:37, ha scritto: >> See debian bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593366 >> >> rob >> > Thank you, Rob, so I conclude that e17 cannot work on debian As I said, I'm on jessie and e17 works without problems, including the connman module, though i b

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Pierre Couderc, il 17/02/2014 00:23, ha scritto: > Mmm, sorry I am new to enlightenment, "loaded"...? Yes. As others said, there are several modules that extend E's features and the connection manager is one of them. The connman module talks to the connmand daemon, just as a nm-applet in other DE

Re: [e-users] Can you force a confirmation dialog before closing a window?

On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:00:21PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 2014 16:42:38 -0800 Marc MERLIN said: > > window menu -> locks -> "prevent this window from being closed". Thanks, that's a reasonable workaround, but I can I make a feature request? I'd be happy with global setti

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

On Monday 17 Feb 2014 15:18:24 Will Hopper wrote: > FWIW, I second what Alan said - i have the same problem with an old netbook > battery, and I think it is a problem with what the battery is reporting, > because sometimes the bios pauses before start up and complains about how > the battery won't

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Le 17/02/2014 16:10, rob a écrit : > On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote: >> Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: >>> Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > On Mon, 17 Fe

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

FWIW, I second what Alan said - i have the same problem with an old netbook battery, and I think it is a problem with what the battery is reporting, because sometimes the bios pauses before start up and complains about how the battery won't take a charge or has low capacity or something, and other

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

On 17/02/14 13:53, Pierre Couderc wrote: > > Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: >> >>> Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +0100 Pierre Couderc sai

Re: [e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

In my experience that is exactly how depleted batteries behave, they no longer report a nice predictable or linear charge/discharge curve. And they start to do this suddenly - usually related to partial or complete failure of one of the cells. Modern batteries are smart - the system asks them how

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Le 17/02/2014 13:41, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > >> Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: >>> Le 17/02/2014 00:28, Carsten Haitzle

[e-users] Problem with battery, or battery gadget?

Hi All, My laptop and its battery are approaching 5 years old and therefore the end of the latter's useful life. Its charge has been reducing noticeably over time. Recently, while running on battery it suddenly died on me. I was surprised that it didn't go on hibernation @3%, as I had set it

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:43:14 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > > > >> Le 17/02/2014 00:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:23:24 +01

Re: [e-users] e17 on debian jessie

Le 17/02/2014 07:25, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : > On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 05:32:43 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: > >> Le 17/02/2014 00:28, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) a écrit : >>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 00:23:24 +0100 Pierre Couderc said: >>> Le 16/02/2014 23:02, Massimo Maiuran