Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > my Spamassassin's bayes stuff finally kicked it as i now see bayes_00 > and similar stuff in the headers. Do i need to keep feeding spam and > ham to sa-learn? Not necessarially (to contradict everyo

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread Paul William
email the k3b maintainer On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:39, Joan Tur wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hallo! > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you > know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > Thanks ;) > - -- > Joan Tur. Eiv

Re: Installation Help: SATA Drive

2003-11-15 Thread Elie De Brauwer
On Saturday 15 November 2003 02:15, Justin Burke wrote: > Hi All, > > I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a > SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both > installation methods hang at the same point: > > "Loading kernel modules > > Detect

Re: where can I get koffice

2003-11-15 Thread Mihalis I. Tsoukalos
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:17:27AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 14 November 2003 10:52 am, you wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:45:10AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > >

Re: Preventing Forkbombs

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:56:37PM -0800, Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > How does one prevent a non-root user from locking up the system with: > > perl -e "while(1){fork}" > > System seems to become utterly unresponsive. (It's a loaded question, I > know.) Please no answers like: "don't do t

Re: unsubscribe

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:21:06PM +0100, L.F. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The 12th of November Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me "READ THIS > CAREFULLY. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE DEBIAN USER > MAILING LIST:SEND and E-MAIL to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THAT > MESSAGE ONLY P

Re: gcc problem - can't create executable

2003-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:31:13PM -0600, Lucas Bergman said > "James W. Thompson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am trying to build the mono runtime environment and get the > > message that the C compiler can't create executables...I have > > attached the configuration log file in case t

Re: Step by Steps??

2003-11-15 Thread Rob Weir
[Please wrap your lines! It makes it much easier to read, and thus more likely that you'll get a response. Anywhere between 70 and 80 is acceptable; 72 seems to be a nice value.] On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Jeffrey W. Pearson said > Does anyone have step by steps for setting up a L

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:51:10AM +0200, Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello, > > Hoping this won't turn into a flame war, I am looking for > recommendations for a window manager. I tried quiet a few but none seem > to fit the bill yet. > I need a window manager with the following >

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-15 Thread Aaron Hsu
Alright, it doesn't look like we are getting very far, so I am going to throw in the way I would diagnose this issue. *sigh* pppd, this is about the best way I can think of to get things done. It's a little harsh, but nothing a good man page can't handle. I am including exerts from the pppd ma

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made > public statements about how god instructe

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello John L. Fjellstad (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. >> >> I do want system mail (cron, error messages, &c.) to be delivered to >> root. >> >> Is exim required? >> >> If I uninstall

ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-15 Thread Erik Steffl
if I run another instance of X the system freezes when I try to switch back to the first one (completely, does not respond to keyboard, mouse or network connections). This only happens if I have two monitors (VGA and DVI). Any ideas what's the problem? system: debian unstable kernel 2

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: > >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. Is there any reason why exim has to listen on all IP addresses by default? I think it would be reasonable to ask during eximconf whether or not one wants to listen on 127.0.0.

Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Apologies since this isn't really a Debian question but does anyone > know where a person can download the anaconda port for Debian? I saw > the announcement a while back from Progeny but there were no

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Tom (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: >> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. > > Is there any reason why exim has to listen on all IP addresses by > default? I think it would be reasonable to ask during eximconf

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-15 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:17:06 -0800 Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when I run X :1 there are some error messages about not being able to > initialize DRI (X :0 can initialize DRI without problems, openGL > programs work): > > (II) fglrx(0): VisualConfigs initialized > (EE) fglrx(0): Fai

Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages

2003-11-15 Thread Curt Daugaard
Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape sequences. Running update-alternatives, I noticed the pager w

Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Otto Wyss
Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.so

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread cr
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > >

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Aaron Hsu
Have you perhaps tried Debian-stable or testing? Aaron Hsu On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 04:42 AM, Otto Wyss wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from

Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Otto Wyss
Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.so

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dissabte 15 Novembre 2003 08:24, en Paul William va escriure: > email the k3b maintainer Already done so ;) > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:39, Joan Tur wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hallo! > > > > I'd like to tr

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:11:10PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > $ cat /etc/debian_version > > 3.0 > > $ which tzsetup > > /usr/sbin/tzsetup > > It doesn't show up on the Stable system I'm using right now. Some people uninstall base-config after they're finished with th

Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:03:04PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > However, the initial portscan takes an extremely long time... Actually, > I haven't seen it finish, because I had to turn my computer off at > night... :-) But something like 10 hours, it seems like it would need > to do a portsc

Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:30:12 -0800 "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Apologies since this isn't really a Debian question but does anyone > > know where a person can download the ana

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread David Palmer.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), Mor

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > Installed-Size anyway?) It is a field for the debian package, representing disk space used when the package is unpacked. It provides a rough idea of how much memo

RE: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")

2003-11-15 Thread adcarlson
I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical switch for most OS/2 users was Linux. Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was known to run better under OS/2. The reason was problem because IBM did a work-around for the bugs th

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-15 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:41:44AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > > Installed-Size anyway?) > > It is a field for the debian package, representing disk space

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread ben
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > > whatever about the rest, a

Newbie packages question

2003-11-15 Thread Vanh Phom
Hi All, I'm trying to compile the new Kdevekop3 to be used as dev GUI. But I run head on to the following problems. Here the output from configure: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kde3src/kdevelop$ ./configure --enable-debug=full --prefix=$KDEDIR --with-kdelibsdoxy-dir=$KDEDIR/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidoc

Re: window manager recomendation

2003-11-15 Thread michf
Quoting Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:41:44AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > > > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > > > Installed-Size anyway?) > > > > It is a field fo

internet

2003-11-15 Thread Ed and Pat Reilly
HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection?   Thank you,   Ed Reilly  

Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:00:55PM +0800, David Palmer. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:30:12 -0800 > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Apologies sin

Compaq Wireless LAN Multiport W200

2003-11-15 Thread stan
What do I need to do to make a Compaq Wireless LAN Multiport W200 work in an N410C laptop, under STABLE. What do I need to do to make this work? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread ben
sorry, that should have been www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Swen reporting scripts

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers and body to originating ISPs. I don't know if it's a result of this or not, but my received Swen has fallen of significantly Friday 14 Nov. compared with the 24 hours preceding. Do *not* trust the scripts to fully automated

Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Karsten M. Self wrote: SA has an "autolearn" feature, where mail scoring above 6, and below 0.1, will be "autolearned" as spam and ham. That is, the Baysian classifier will train on these mails. However these only are what SA would have caught already without the Bayesian score. It discards

Re: 56K video link software?

2003-11-15 Thread David Selby
David Selby wrote: I have a relative who has moved out to Australia & am interested in using a webcam & 56K modem for a video link (I know the picture quality will be rough) Can anyone point me in the right direction for video link software ? Many thanks Dave Thanks for the help, I like the lo

Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. > How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection?

OT yahoo messenger for Woody

2003-11-15 Thread David Selby
OK this is a bit OT but I am stuck. I am trying to get Yahoo "messenger" working on woody. Apparently the package is for woody. http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html I installed it with dpkg -i, it did not show any dependency problems, when I run it I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:57:46AM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:16:33AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > I'm intrigued. why would you want to do thi

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Christian Schnobrich
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. > How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Well, your mail lacks about eve

Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages

2003-11-15 Thread Curt Daugaard
Curt Daugaard wrote: Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape sequences. Running update-alternatives, I

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-15 Thread John Hasler
Colin Watson writes: > Some people uninstall base-config after they're finished with the > installation. However, I have not done so. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: ssh-agent

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 06:27:40PM +, Geoff Thurman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday 08 November 2003 3:17 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > ssh is highly valuable because it provides a secure, encrypted, > > authenticated, non-spoofable means of issueing commands or data > > between ho

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Otto Wyss wrote: So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access) sudo will give you root access in Knoppix -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be able to create and update GANTT charts. 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Can anyone recommend a similar program? Thanks, -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse > before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian > to recognize my internet connection? Is your cable mod

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Michael D Schleif
Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:11:15:09:15:22+0100] scribed: > Hello > > John L. Fjellstad (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: > >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. > >> > >> I do want system mail (cron, error

Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my inter

Re: alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)

2003-11-15 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be > able to create and update GANTT charts. > > 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Try www.taskjuggler.org. Debian packages are being produce

Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Kent West wrote: Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to

Re: internet

2003-11-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:20:04PM +0100, Christian Schnobrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > > HI, > > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set i

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:04, David Palmer. wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote: > > > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > > alternatives. So far I've te

computer won't boot now

2003-11-15 Thread Daniel Edmund Davison
Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse this situation I would be very

XFree will not run on Woody

2003-11-15 Thread James Hosken
I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian I did that and still it will not run. I've tried running dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xfree86 xf86config Hardware: Matrox G550 card and a

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Haines Brown
> From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It seems to me that the "most successful" would be those who can > master the social needs (get good grades from approved testbooks, > etc), while still being able to think outside the box. Ron, I can't give your remark the attention it deserves because

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 22:23 Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]] > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:07:01AM +, ben wrote:

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless > > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) > > First off, my a

Re: Night mare to set day light savings time

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:49:16PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [1] Why we still have the criminally stupid concept of DST is beyond > me...http://www.standardtime.com/ Brilliant! Wonder if there's a British version... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:1137

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Chema wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 + > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and > P> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do > P> cultivate pot so they

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 08:09, ben wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron

Re: XFree will not run on Woody

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello James Hosken (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. > It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from > http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian > I did that and still it will not run. > > I've tried running > dpkg-recomfigu

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at

Re: kaffe and/or sablevm in mozilla?

2003-11-15 Thread David Fokkema
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:50:27AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > jjluza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > like it is said in the doc, these packages (free implementation), make > > you to be able to compile and run java program. > > But they don't work to browse Internet and its java applets. > > Y

Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!

2003-11-15 Thread Wayne Topa
Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:06:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs > > to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run > > (which usually just printe

Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1

2003-11-15 Thread TR
Is the last version of Xfree in sid supporting ati radeon 9800? Last I had checked it was not yet, so I have fireglx from the ati site running, which of course has created a lot of conflicts everytime that I run an update. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubsc

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread TR
> Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? > > Holy crap! I would! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: > [snip very good points] > > > > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people > > > how to read just well enou

[OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:09:37 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL P

Re: printing all of command executed in a script

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > > > executed in a shell script. > > >

Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > affluent family walked into their High School armed with > > > rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread csj
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, Joan Tur wrote: > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of > k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? The backend (that I read) it uses is already in Debian: dvd+rw-tools. It might also use a piece of software that will nev

Debian sarge installation problems

2003-11-15 Thread Otto Wyss
I've 2 problems with the debian installation I need an immediate solution. First how can I reconfigure the keyboard so it uses the swiss keyboard instead of the US? Second, how can I force Debian not to use ide-scsi for reading from my CD-writer? In the current state ide-scsi isn't able to acces

Re: printing all of command executed in a script

2003-11-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:33:31PM +0800, csj wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, > Akira Kitada wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to pri

Re: Installing modem.

2003-11-15 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Hsu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 01:42 Subject: Re: Installing modem. > Alright, it doesn't look like we are getting very far, so I am going to > throw in the way I

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote: > Otto Wyss wrote: > > So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > > root access) > > sudo will give you root access in Knoppix You can grab a real root prompt with 'rootme'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subj

Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:55, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > > Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can > > vote, but the elections will be rigged

LIVE LONGER with H-uman...G-rowth...H-ormone...katharine

2003-11-15 Thread Therese Mcallister
H-uman...G-rowth...H-ormone Therapy "Overall deterioration of the body that comes with growing old is not inevitable."---Dr. Daniel Rudman's in the New England Journal of Medicine. Follow me to longer living: http://www.mmv9.org?affil=49 Scientific research and evidence overwhelmingly demonst

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread moseley
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:27:28AM -0600, Michael D Schleif wrote: > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer > is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, > now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> > > Nevertheless, having exim installed on t

Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 04:51, csj wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > > affluent family walked into their High School armed with > > >

Re: k3b 1.0 ?

2003-11-15 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dissabte 15 Novembre 2003 12:14, en csj va escriure: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, > > Joan Tur wrote: > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of > > k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > The backe

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Jacob S.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this > computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of > course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> Are you sure nothing's list

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread John L. Fjellstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, On Saturday 15 November 2003 09:15, Andreas Janssen wrote: > In fact, exim doesn't have to be running at all to have local email > delivered. Deinstalling however will cause dependency problems because > packages like anacron, at, mailx and

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Jacob S.
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:17:53 -0600 "Jacob S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this > > computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local

Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???

2003-11-15 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Jacob S. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this >> computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. >> Of course, now nothi

Re: computer won't boot now

2003-11-15 Thread Kent West
Daniel Edmund Davison wrote: Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse t

Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?

2003-11-15 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:12:08PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > I've set up a mailbox "spam-learn" where I dump any spam which slips > past SA, and a cron jo

Apache VHOST Problem

2003-11-15 Thread Tanen
Hello, I’m using apache 2.0, i have few website hosted on only two IP address, My problem is : I have Bind on my puter, who deliver the local dns of my local network, and i have apache 2.0. I have set up my apache, and it work fine, just now, where it’s shuting up ! I don’t know why, b

devfs

2003-11-15 Thread Tom Allison
I was doing an installation using whatever disks I can find (stable, tesitng-installer) and I ran into a problem of something that I recall once long ago. I thought devfs was going to be mostly removed from the installations. This is based on a comment I received once long ago from a Debian po

maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread Tom Allison
I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the potential implications concerning the recent announcements of RedHat/Fedora and SuSE/Novell. From the other lists, there's a l

Re: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")

2003-11-15 Thread Deryk Barker
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical > switch for most OS/2 users was Linux. > > Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was > known to run better under OS/2. How ve

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:53:24AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), There is acces

Could not load OpenGL library

2003-11-15 Thread Nathan
Sometime in the last few days my OpenGL (or SDL, I'm not sure) has stopped working. I use OpenGL primarily for gaming, so not having it hasn't killed me. The error message I get when starting up Unreal Tournament (and UT 2003) is: Opening SDL viewport. Bound to SDLGLDrv.so Loaded render device cla

Re: Debian for enterprise

2003-11-15 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Robert Soricone wrote: A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. If the group were to consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that was previously being done by the RH en

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-15 Thread Tim Kelley
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Paying the occasional "sysadmin bill" might well come out to less > > > than what these people spend on the software itself now. > > People cost a ton -- $100g + 30% for benefits.

Re: maybe I missed a thread

2003-11-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: > I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have > missed a thread on this one. > > But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the > potential implications concerning the recent announcements of > RedHa

Re: Debian based working distribution

2003-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Otto Wyss wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? The recomm

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