On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote:
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> > > Does it take "multiple Columbines on a daily basis" to constitute a
> > > problem?
> > > Somewhere close to a hundred Americans blow each other away _per_day_
> > > and you want this to lead me to the conclusion that things are okay?
> >
> > And...
> > - most are done with hot weapons
> > - most are "criminal-on-criminal"
> >
> > I'd rather not live in a nanny state, and take my chance, however
> > minimal they are, in a slightly more anarchic society.
>
> That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably
> leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal
> criminals per capita, than other countries? Answers in the back of an
> envelope please, addressed to the Director-General, FBI, Washington (I guess
> he'd dearly like to know...) <vbeg>
You think the (main) reasons why the US has become a relatively
violent society over the past 45 years would fit on the back of an
envelope? Well, lets see what's on the top of my head:
- breakdown of the family
- divorce/abandonment
- fear by modern parents of damaging children's self-esteem
- parents wanting to be "friends"
- federal regs that make it financially more attractive for the
father to leave.
- excessive amounts of TV
- breakdown of public morality
- libertine-ism instead of liberty
- for *example*, the HBOization of broadcast TV
- ties in with "breakdown of the family"
- growth in use of illegal drugs, in past ~40 years
- ties into "breakdown of the family" and "breakdown of public
morality"
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Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jefferson, LA USA
484,246 sq mi (1,254,197 sq km) are needed for 6 billion people
to live, 4 persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150' (a nice
suburban US plot).
That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri.
Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom.
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