Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

Reza Bojnordi [2025-05-06 09:53:54] wrote: > I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the > possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus > processor, specifically for my laptop model, the ASUS Q5507QA-S15. There's arch/

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUSQ5507QA-S15 Laptop

y of enhanced support and development for the > >> Snapdragon X Plus processor, specifically for my laptop model, the > >> ASUS Q5507QA-S15. > > [...] > > > > Hi, Reza > > > > I guess you will find a more focused group for your interest in the > &

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUSQ5507QA-S15 Laptop

On 5/6/25 03:29, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:53:54AM +0330, Reza Bojnordi wrote: Dear Debian I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus processor, specifically for

Re: Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:53:54AM +0330, Reza Bojnordi wrote: > Dear Debian > > I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the > possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus > processor, specifically for my laptop model, t

Request for Snapdragon X Plus Support and Development for ASUS Q5507QA-S15 Laptop

Dear Debian I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to inquire about the possibility of enhanced support and development for the Snapdragon X Plus processor, specifically for my laptop model, the ASUS Q5507QA-S15. As a user of this device, I believe that expanding the support for

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

Eben King writes: > xev works as not-root, so X clients in general work. So how do I get > around this? Installing not-Wayland is an option, but I probably should > replace it with some WIMP interface so if I need it, it's there. Thanks. So, as xev works, X forwarding works and

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On 4/4/25 17:00, Eben King wrote: Also it suspends the OS after a few minutes, so I gotta find out where that's controlled. /etc/gdm3/greeter.dconf-defaults looks to be a likely candidate, as in https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/748759/disabling-suspend-etc-on-debian-12 I changed it

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On Fri, Apr 4, 2025 at 8:37 PM Eben King wrote: > > On 4/4/25 16:41, George at Clug wrote: > > > > [...] > > If you need to reboot to complete the installation > > # systemctl reboot > > shutdown doesn't. I mean it acts like it does, goes through the > motions, and ends up with a computer that's

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On 05/04/2025 04:00, Eben King wrote: Also it suspends the OS after a few minutes, so I gotta find out where that's controlled. Either your desktop environment or systemd had a hope to reduce your electricity bills. Check power management setting for both. For the latter see /etc/systemd/slee

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 18:13:40 -0400 Eben King wrote: > > Not necessarily. I routinely ssh into all my computers, to their > > root and user accounts, > > So you ssh-login as root, or do you login as a user then su to root? I log in as root. "ssh r...@dragon.example.com". -- Does anybody read

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On 4/4/25 18:08, Charles Curley wrote: On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:00:09 -0400 Eben King wrote: to run synaptic you would need to do this on the computer itself, not remotely unless you are using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC. So ssh is right out? That sucketh much. It's not

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:00:09 -0400 Eben King wrote: > > to run synaptic you would need to do this on the computer itself, > > not remotely unless you are using a remote X or Wayland client like > > VNC. > > So ssh is right out? That sucketh much. It's not all X

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

On 4/4/25 16:41, George at Clug wrote: Hi, I believe you are using a terminal from another computer, and not using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC? (e.g. "I usually access it via ssh") That is correct, ssh in bash in xfce4-terminal in XFCE in X11 under kernel 6.1.0-32-a

Re: X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

Hi, I believe you are using a terminal from another computer, and not using a remote X or Wayland client like VNC? (e.g. "I usually access it via ssh") If so, please use apt to install software. for example, become root $ sudo -i or just su (which is what I use) $ su After logging

X client from Wayland to X11 through ssh

r: ,-- | root@alexandria:~# synaptic | Failed to initialize GTK. | | Probably you're running Synaptic on Wayland with root permission. | Please restart your session without Wayland, or run Synaptic without | root permission | root@alexandria:~# '-- xev works as not-root, so X clients in ge

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/23/25 00:14, didier gaumet wrote: Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:41, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correc

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:12, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in  linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 curr

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 23:23, didier gaumet wrote: Debian provides realtime kernels in its repositories. For an AMD64 PC and Debian 12 Bookworm (without backports), the last LTS realtime kernel package is: linux-image-6.1.0-29-rt-amd64 Do I understand correctly, that the rt-kernels like the one you ment

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 23:23, didier gaumet a écrit : [...) DAW usage and I don not think he was not using backports) [...) I did not take time to read myself before posting, sorry: "I do not think he was using backports" is more correct ;-)

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Le 22/01/2025 à 21:48, Marco Möller a écrit : On 1/22/25 01:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's not yet clear to me whether you're trying to use a backported kernel because you *need* it, or because it has a higher number and you think higher numbers are better. I would like to optimize my laptop f

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 11:07:57PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: You mean, linux-image-amd64 in bookworm-backports, which currently draws in linux-image-6.12.9+bpo-amd64 (= 6.12.9-1~bpo12+1), can be expected to NOT draw in some 6.13 like 6.13~rc7+1~exp1 currently already having appeared in the ex

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 22:32, Michael Stone wrote: I think the problem here is a misunderstanding of how backports work: they're not "the latest kernel", they're "the latest kernel from debian testing". You're not going to see a kernel in backports that's not going to be in trixie until after the trixie re

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 09:48:24PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: Well, I thought that some easy receipt would pop up as an answer to my question on how to achieve such automatic upgrades. As this did not happen I conclude that the wished procedure is not so common and not readily worked out by now

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/22/25 01:12, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's not yet clear to me whether you're trying to use a backported kernel because you *need* it, or because it has a higher number and you think higher numbers are better. I would like to optimize my laptop for creative audio usage (tracking, running dig

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

6.12.9 and getting 6.12.10. But > I do not want this upgrade to step up to the 6.13 versions. > For comfortably running the upgrades in an unattended way, I expect that I > might need some pinning to allow all newer 6.12.x versions to become drawn > in when available, but to not al

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 22/01/2025 03:17, Marco Möller wrote: Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream L

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 01:00:49 +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > On 1/22/25 00:10, George at Clug wrote: > > I apologise, but I do not understand what it is you want to achieve or what > > it is that you are asking. > > > > Can you please give more explanation? > > I want to install the currently h

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

the upgrades in an unattended way, I expect that I might need some pinning to allow all newer 6.12.x versions to become drawn in when available, but to not allow any higher kernel version than 6.12.x, so not allowing any 6.13 to become drawn in. It seems to obvious to me, that I should not install

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

te # apt list --upgradable # apt full-upgrade --autoremove -y # systemctl reboot # apt autoremove # apt clean I hope some of this helps, sorry I am confused about what you wanted to ask. George. On Wednesday, 22-01-2025 at 07:17 Marco Möller wrote: > Hello community! > Could you pleas

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On 1/21/25 21:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 09:17:52PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: Hello community! Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing &quo

Re: Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 09:17:52PM +0100, Marco Möller wrote: > Hello community! > Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for > applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm > Backports when doing "apt update &&

Backports (bookworm), upgrade to all x for kernel 6.12.x, but not upgrade to 6.13

Hello community! Could you please share with me, or point me to, a howto or receipt for applying all upgrades to future kernel 6.12.x versions to appear in Bookworm Backports when doing "apt update && apt upgrade", but to not leave the 6.12 (upstream LTS) branch and not upgr

Re: gdm Bug: 61-gdm.rules sets Wayland to false, but X is not installed, then freezes

On 20 Dec 2024 08:32 +, from soc...@teclab.at: > I filed a bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/959 > > Not sure if you want/need me to file another bug in the Debian bug system. > > Asking for advice. Generally the recommended way to do it is to file a bug report with the distri

gdm Bug: 61-gdm.rules sets Wayland to false, but X is not installed, then freezes

Dear Debian Users, I filed a bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gdm/-/issues/959 Not sure if you want/need me to file another bug in the Debian bug system. Asking for advice. Regards Thomas

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

t; background in the terminal windows. This means that the default X > > cursor isn't very visible when it's somewhere in one of the terminal > > windows and I often have trouble seeing it. > > > > Alternatively a way to simply change the colour of the I-Be

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Sorry, I'm a bit behind on mail. On Sun 17 Nov 2024 at 10:50:31 (-0500), Chris Green wrote: > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey > background in the terminal windows. This means

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

ere that offer it. It comes in > >> various > >> sizes, plus two colors, black and white. > >> > >> On Debian I typically add > >> > >> Xcursor.theme: DMZ-White > >> Xcursor.size: 32 > > [...] > > > So, I think

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

me such grief, I'd simply switch to > > some other terminal program. It doesn't really matter which you use. > > I suspect that most of them will share the same ancestry (VTE) so it's > difficult to escape! :-) > > It's not a really **major** issue for me an

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

I'm not aware of an existing theme that provides an I-bar that you describe, but, I found writing my own cursor theme (in my case to override just the pointer) relatively straightforward, so I would encourage you to try. The themes can inherit from others so you would only need to describe the I-ba

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

o change is the X cursor in xfce4-terminal! Here's what I do: apt install xcursor-themes galternatives Then use galternatives to update x-cursor-theme to point to redglass.theme. Then "xfce4-mouse-settings &" or settings-> mouse and touchpad-> theme to invoke redgl

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

gt; > > > > Yes. I get a nice big red cursor for most of my windows, except > > > > xfce4-terminal windows. But it's big and stands out nicely there. > > > > > > > But the one thing I want to change is the X cursor in > > &g

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

t; > xfce4-terminal windows. But it's big and stands out nicely there. > > > > > But the one thing I want to change is the X cursor in > > xfce4-terminal! > > > > > > > Here's what I do: > > > > > > apt install xcursor-t

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

e willing to spend more effort on solving your > > > problem than you. > > > > That's insulting. Chris is quite right. Terminals commonly have the > > means to alter some attributes of the terminal cursor, but never > > the X cursor in my experience. >

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

out its colour. > > > > You might be correct, but right now, you're not expending the > > fractional effort necessary to find out. > > > > Nobody should be willing to spend more effort on solving your problem > > than you. > > That's insult

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

gt; >> On Debian I typically add >> >> Xcursor.theme: DMZ-White >> Xcursor.size: 32 [...] > So, I think there must be something in xfce4-terminal that's > determining what X cursor is used. Ah, no, it seems to be the same > for any terminal window. If

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

ursor themes > > > and they don't change the I-Beam at all, they just change all the > > > other ones. > > > > Yes. I get a nice big red cursor for most of my windows, except > > xfce4-terminal windows. But it's big and stands out nicely there. > >

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

e the I-Beam at all, they just change all the > > other ones. > > Yes. I get a nice big red cursor for most of my windows, except > xfce4-terminal windows. But it's big and stands out nicely there. > But the one thing I want to change is the X cursor in xfce4-terminal! >

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

er ones. Yes. I get a nice big red cursor for most of my windows, except xfce4-terminal windows. But it's big and stands out nicely there. Here's what I do: apt install xcursor-themes galternatives Then use galternatives to update x-cursor-theme to point to redglass.theme. Then &quo

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Green composed on 2024-11-17 15:40 (UTC): > > > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large > > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey > > background in the terminal windows. > > >

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

find out. > > Nobody should be willing to spend more effort on solving your problem > than you. That's insulting. Chris is quite right. Terminals commonly have the means to alter some attributes of the terminal cursor, but never the X cursor in my experience. I just checked the term

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Chris Green composed on 2024-11-17 15:40 (UTC): > I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large > terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey > background in the terminal windows. > This means that the default X cursor isn't

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

ively and I use a light grey background in the terminal windows. This means that the default X cursor isn't very visible when it's somewhere in one of the terminal windows and I often have trouble seeing it. So, do any of the cursor themes in xcursor-themes actually change the I-Beam

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Chris Green wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > > > > Most terminals offer the ability to change the cursor color when > > the cursor is in them. In the settings for xfterminal, I'm > > pretty sure you can set that. Go look? > > > It's not the terminal cursor so I don't think

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > Most terminals offer the ability to change the cursor color when > the cursor is in them. In the settings for xfterminal, I'm > pretty sure you can set that. Go look? > It's not the terminal cursor so I don't think the terminal can do anything aboout

Re: Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

Chris Green wrote: Most terminals offer the ability to change the cursor color when the cursor is in them. In the settings for xfterminal, I'm pretty sure you can set that. Go look? -dsr-

Looking for X cursor theme with bigger or darker I-Beam

I'm running Debian 12 on two systems, on both of them I use large terminal (xfce4) windows quite extensively and I use a light grey background in the terminal windows. This means that the default X cursor isn't very visible when it's somewhere in one of the terminal windows a

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Sun, Nov 3, 2024 at 4:04 PM Christian wrote: > [...] > Well yes, and it's pretty confusing because I disabled secure boot, and > the problems remained. Which makes me really clueless, because there is > not much information left on the dmesg. Maybe its something with BIOS or > ACPI? By adding l

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

So far I couldn't see anything in my cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. If this means that you already looked into /proc/cmdline then i am out of ideas why the kernel log reported [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man kernel_lockdown.7 Turns out,

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi, Christian wrote: > So far I couldn't see anything in my > cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. If this means that you already looked into /proc/cmdline then i am out of ideas why the kernel log reported > > [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man > >

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 12:25 PM Christian wrote: > > Hello Kevin, thank you for support. I choosed Nvidia again deliberately > because I want to play with Tesorflow, Scikit-Learn and GPT. And yes I > had my experiences with Nvidia over the year as well. But I decided to > take Nvidia again. Maybe

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

30 Oct 2024 16:25:58 Christian : > I choosed Nvidia again deliberately because I want to play with Tesorflow, > Scikit-Learn and GPT. Or perhaps game. People seem to forget that 20 years ago Nvidia was the only supporter of full featured gpu drivers on Linux. Have you tried disabling secure bo

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hello Kevin, thank you for support. I choosed Nvidia again deliberately because I want to play with Tesorflow, Scikit-Learn and GPT. And yes I had my experiences with Nvidia over the year as well. But I decided to take Nvidia again. Maybe there are more people like me, giving up the installatio

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hello Timothy, I did so. I used Debian Testing/Trixie, which I also use on my current old system (build 2015) with apt pinning and everything... The ISO I used was debian-live-testing-amd64-xfce.iso. BR Christian On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM Christian wrote: Hi Thomas, thank you for you

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 10:58 AM Christian wrote: > Hi Thomas, thank you for your help. So far I couldn't see anything in my > cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. And I grep'ed the whole /etc > and /boot directory recursively. Nothing. And neither in the dmesg, > there is no "lsm=" line. On

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

odeset > > and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: > > > > [ 304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 535.183.01 Sun May 12 19:37:53 UTC > > 2024 > > [ 304.355] (II) NVIDIA: The X server supports PRIME Render Offload. > > [ 308.891] (EE

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

the Nvidia driver and everything to build it. Then I created my MOK key and enrolled them. So the nvidia-current module is signed now and is getting loaded as nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: [ 304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi Thomas, thank you for your help. So far I couldn't see anything in my cmdline which is kernel_lockdown related. And I grep'ed the whole /etc and /boot directory recursively. Nothing. And neither in the dmesg, there is no "lsm=" line. Only in the kernel .config is CONFIG_SECURITY_LOCKDOWN=y,

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

>> NVIDIA is a major pain in the ass with Linux. Which is why I do not >> use them. > Actually this is more Linux being a major pain in the ass to Nvidia. Hmm... I haven't seen any sign that Nvidia suffers much, so I think it's more clearly a pain inflicted on Linux. Stefan

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

29 Oct 2024 17:38:39 Timothy M Butterworth : > NVIDIA is a major pain in the ass with Linux. Which is why I do not > use them. Actually this is more Linux being a major pain in the ass to Nvidia. When secure boot is enabled lockdown is automatically enabled. Really debian should provide an Nvid

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

4060Ti. The Nouveau driver did not work with > this card so I installed the Nvidia driver and everything to build it. > Then I created my MOK key and enrolled them. So the nvidia-current > module is signed now and is getting loaded as nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset > and nvidia. But someth

Re: X server blocked by SecureBoot

Hi, Christian wrote: > [   47.042454] Lockdown: Xorg: raw io port access is restricted; see man > kernel_lockdown.7 > I think it's still SecureBoot, but what is it this time? Can anyone help At least the above log snippet seems to be related to SecureBoot. In https://manpages.debian.org/bookwo

X server blocked by SecureBoot

the Nvidia driver and everything to build it. Then I created my MOK key and enrolled them. So the nvidia-current module is signed now and is getting loaded as nvidia_drm, nvidia_modeset and nvidia. But something still prevents the X server from starting: [   304.354] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10/15/24 07:35, Anssi Saari wrote: Chris Green writes: No need for that (testing for me), I can try and if it all goes pear shaped I'll just have to go out to the system in the garage with a screen and keyboard (and mouse). If the backup system is down for a while it wouldn't be a disaster

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Chris Green writes: > No need for that (testing for me), I can try and if it all goes pear > shaped I'll just have to go out to the system in the garage with a > screen and keyboard (and mouse). If the backup system is down for a > while it wouldn't be a disaster. I've actually done a headless

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Hi, Le 11/10/2024, Brad Rogers a écrit: >>if some evil actor gets access to mozilla's >>repository and injects some malware into it. > > A point I missed. Clearly. > > Thanks for highlighting. This is not very convincing. If an evil actor were in a position to do that, they would probably

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:56:12 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >if some evil actor gets access to mozilla's >repository and injects some malware into it. A point I missed. Clearly. Thanks for highlighting. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 11 Oct 2024 09:38 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > I can try and if it all goes pear > shaped I'll just have to go out to the system in the garage with a > screen and keyboard (and mouse). No need for a mouse, even if you use the graphical installer. -- Michael Kjörling

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 11:56:12AM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + > > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ > > >coming from that reposit

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ > >coming from that repository at priority 1000. > > Maybe, but; > > As an experiment, I added the mozilla repo and

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 2024-10-11, Chris Green wrote: > Yes, I said earlier that I think I need to investigate how to use > backports. GnuCash in particular is a candidate. Sorry I miss the point. To install from backports you have to add it in sources.list deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, size 0.8K, charset utf-8, 24 lines, encoding quoted-printable > --] > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on De

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 16:45 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's > > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap. > > Welcome to Debian, no forced snap nonsense here. > > > My only need for

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 03:41:35PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI? This > > is for a backup system in my garage which is (usually) headless. Even > > better can I do the installation via ssh? > > > > Wit

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-10-10, Chris Green wrote: > > > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a very few things > > where keeping different systems in step is important. Some are in > > PPAs (e.g. syncthing) so I get the same version on all my systems that > > way. The othe

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + Michael Kjörling wrote: Hello Michael, >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ >coming from that repository at priority 1000. Maybe, but; As an experiment, I added the mozilla repo and updated. Everything from their repos was l

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 2024-10-10, Chris Green wrote: > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a very few things > where keeping different systems in step is important. Some are in > PPAs (e.g. syncthing) so I get the same version on all my systems that > way. The other one I can think of at the moment

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 19:53 +0100, from b...@fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers): >> Though I would adjust that apt pinning configuration slightly to favor >> only firefox and maybe thunderbird packages from their repository, > > AFAICT, the repo you cited has firefox(1) only. That sounds like an even better ar

Re: Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:06AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > You might like this one, too. Mozilla just bought an ad company and > cut-in code in Firefox for targeted advertising: "Privacy-Preserving" > Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us Yet Again, >

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:26:37 + Michael Kjörling wrote: Hello Michael, >Though I would adjust that apt pinning configuration slightly to favor >only firefox and maybe thunderbird packages from their repository, AFAICT, the repo you cited has firefox(1) only. T'Bird direct from mozilla is i

Re: Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:07 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 04:55:28PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > Lol... That's been the course for years now. Mozilla almost lost their > > non-profit status because they were making so much money from their > > Google partnership: > >

Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 04:55:28PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > Lol... That's been the course for years now. Mozilla almost lost their > non-profit status because they were making so much money from their > Google partnership: >

Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 08:52:13PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 10 Oct 2024 20:47 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: > >>> ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > >>> getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like > >>> Firefox (official Mo

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

024 at 01:41 Chris Green wrote: > Hi all. > > I am a long time Linux user (since before 2000) and an xubuntu user > since somewhere in the early 2000s. > > However I'm finding various aspects of [x]ubuntu are becoming steadily > more annoying so I'm looking for oth

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:47 PM wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > > getting very fresh versions of ce

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 20:47 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: >>> ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of >>> getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like >>> Firefox (official Mozilla channel, released without any delay) >> >> These days, Mozilla also

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Friday, 11-10-2024 at 05:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > > getting very fres

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 16:45:05 +0100 Chris Green wrote: > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap. snapd and flatpak are available as Debian packages, but are entirely optional. I prefer to avoid them a

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

> 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI? This > is for a backup system in my garage which is (usually) headless. Even > better can I do the installation via ssh? Assuming you have enough disk space, you can install into a new LV/partition while the old system is still r

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like > > Firefo

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