Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-18 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2014 01:36:07 -0400 (EDT), Sven Joachim wrote: > > I don't think there's a linux16 command on sparc, for lack of x86 real > mode. > ... > There is no lilo for sparc since lilo is written in x86 assembly. You are absolutely right. Somehow, I missed the fact that he was using sparc.

Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-07-17 07:57 +0200, Dennis Luehring wrote: > Am 17.07.2014 07:36, schrieb Sven Joachim: >> I don't think there's a linux16 command on sparc, for lack of x86 real >> mode. > > does that mean vga=ask is an x86 only feature? According to Documentation/kernel-pa

Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 07:57:39AM +0200, Dennis Luehring wrote: > Am 17.07.2014 07:36, schrieb Sven Joachim: > >I don't think there's a linux16 command on sparc, for lack of x86 real > >mode. > > does that mean vga=ask is an x86 only feature? It depends

Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Dennis Luehring
Am 17.07.2014 07:36, schrieb Sven Joachim: I don't think there's a linux16 command on sparc, for lack of x86 real mode. does that mean vga=ask is an x86 only feature? or does https://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransitionjust just ignores non x86 systems by giving the advice to use linux

Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Sven Joachim
; textmode works) so i want to >> try using the vga=ask boot parameter if there is a working framebuffer >> variant >> >> but the vga=ask parameter seems to be deprecated - is there any other >> parameter i can try? >> >> after qemus OpenBios boot

Re: set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, 16 Jul 2014 03:41:26 -0400 (EDT), Dennis Luehring wrote: > > i try to install an qemu-sparc version of debian wheezy 7.6 (dvd-iso) > the qemu graphics emulation is not full ready yet (freezing very early, > textmode works) so i want to > try using the vga=ask boot paramete

set boot parameter vga=ask before debian wheezy 7.6 dvd install

2014-07-16 Thread Dennis Luehring
i try to install an qemu-sparc version of debian wheezy 7.6 (dvd-iso) the qemu graphics emulation is not full ready yet (freezing very early, textmode works) so i want to try using the vga=ask boot parameter if there is a working framebuffer variant but the vga=ask parameter seems to be

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/21/2013 2:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-05-21 04:03 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 5/20/2013 4:30 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: >>> MIPS and ARM machines don't have a traditional BIOS either, >> >> Yes, that was my point. You'll probably never see UEFI on these >> platforms. So LILO

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-05-21 04:03 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 5/20/2013 4:30 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: >> MIPS and ARM machines don't have a traditional BIOS either, > > Yes, that was my point. You'll probably never see UEFI on these > platforms. So LILO could be used basically forever. Hardly, because L

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-21 Thread state angel
> > >> Another note, GRUB2 is more similar to Lilo than you think. > > > > They're both boot loaders. Of course they're similar. But they have > > some serious differences. Serious enough that many folks, such as > > myself, choose to stick with LILO. > > Good luck in patching LILO to work

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
8 has flopped. There are no [note|net]book computers shipping with 2TB+ 2.5" or 1.8" drives, so this is a non issue. Is anyone even making a 2TB+ 2.5" drive? Last I checked the largest on the market is 1TB. >> UEFI is little endian only and will never be usable on some emb

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Mon, 20 May 2013 02:48:55 -0400 (EDT), Sven wrote: > > Good luck in patching LILO to work without a BIOS. It is true that lilo requires a BIOS interface. However, many EFI/UEFI machines also provide a BIOS for forward compatibility; so lilo may still work. However, for those EFI/UEFI machine

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, 19 May 2013 23:15:54 -0400 (EDT), Dirk wrote: > > but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all this > when even /lilo/ is still working...? > > lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a > kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three func

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Stephen Powell
to get 80x50 > text consoles instead of framebuffer. You may also replace ext by F00, > F01, F02, F03, F05, F06 or F07 to get alternate VGA text resolutions > (respectively 80x25, 80x50, 80x43, 80x28, 80x30, 80x34 and 80x60). Use > vga=ask to get a chance at boot time to list

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Sven Joachim
aditional BIOS - people want to be able to use hard disks bigger than 2 TiB under Windows. > UEFI is little endian only and will never be usable on some embedded > RISC processor platforms. Linux will be required to support many > different flavors of system board firmware now and into the di

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-20 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/20/2013 1:48 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote: >> >>> The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their >>> support behind GRUB2 which allows for (please correct me, if I'm wrong) >>> f

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote: > >> The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their >> support behind GRUB2 which allows for (please correct me, if I'm wrong) >> features like UEFI support and better support for au

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 00:26 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > They're both boot loaders. Of course they're similar. But they have > some serious differences. Serious enough that many folks, such as > myself, choose to stick with LILO. If I had to come up with one word to > describe today's LILO use

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote: > You can use Lilo if you so choose, I do. > but don't expect integration > (specifically kernel package installation scripts). I don't. I roll my own kernels sans initrd. lilo in MBR, vmlinuz in ext2 /boot partition. > The Debian developers (and ma

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread staticsafe
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 05:15:54AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote: > >On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > >>hello, > >> > >>do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without > >>offe

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Dirk
On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote: On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: hello, do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i found online surely doesn't work... so i reverted to

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread staticsafe
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > hello, > > do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without > offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs > i found online surely doesn't work... > > so i reverted to g

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread sp113438
On Mon, 20 May 2013 02:59:43 +0200 Dirk wrote: > hello, > > do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without > offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i > found online surely doesn't work... > > so i reverted to g

Re: vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote: > hello, > > do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without > offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs > i found online surely doesn't work... what branch of debian do you us

vga=ask doesn't work anymore

2013-05-19 Thread Dirk
hello, do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i found online surely doesn't work... so i reverted to grub-legacy... doesn't anybody check the crap that makes it into debian anymore? be

RE: vga=ask

2000-06-05 Thread A. Scott White
Ragga Muffin wrote: > Have you tried the svgatextmode package ? I actually just downloaded it and installed it at another person's reccommendation. It will suffice. Thanks. A. Scott White Director of Information Systems and Product Strategy ACS

Re: vga=ask

2000-06-03 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: vga=ask Date: Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 10:38:02PM -0500 In reply to:A. Scott White Quoting A. Scott White([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. > > I've specified the kernel image along with the command line vga=auto a

RE: vga=ask

2000-06-03 Thread Ragga Muffin
"A. Scott White" wrote: > I want to use a different vga text mode (like 80x50) on my terminal. I do > not like to use X Windows, it is too slow. I prefer to use the standard, > text based terminal. I want, however, to be able to see more text on the > screen at one time. Have you tried the svgat

Re: vga=ask

2000-06-02 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 11:20:11AM -0500, A. Scott White wrote: > Jo wrote: > > A full screen console (no X), is that what you want? > > If so check out framebuffer. There is an HOWTO on it. > > Jo > > I want to use a different vga text mode (like 80x50) on my terminal. I do > not like to use X Wi

Re: vga=ask

2000-06-02 Thread Tom Furie
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 09:39:22AM -0500, A. Scott White wrote: > > I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. > > > > I've specified the kernel image along with the command line > > vga=auto at the > > lilo prompt. I set vga=ask in my lilo.conf gl

RE: vga=ask

2000-06-02 Thread A. Scott White
Jo wrote: > A full screen console (no X), is that what you want? > If so check out framebuffer. There is an HOWTO on it. > Jo I want to use a different vga text mode (like 80x50) on my terminal. I do not like to use X Windows, it is too slow. I prefer to use the standard, text based terminal. I wa

Re: vga=ask

2000-06-02 Thread Jo Hoffmann
> > I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. > > > > I've specified the kernel image along with the command line > > vga=auto at the > > lilo prompt. > > > > I've run rdev -v \boot\vmlinuz-2.2.15 -3 > > > > I've run

RE: vga=ask

2000-06-02 Thread A. Scott White
on from my kernel or something? Thanks. > I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. > > I've specified the kernel image along with the command line > vga=auto at the > lilo prompt. > > I've run rdev -v \boot\vmlinuz-2.2.15 -3 > > I've run vidmode

Re: vga=ask

2000-06-01 Thread ktb
"A. Scott White" wrote: > > I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. > > I've specified the kernel image along with the command line vga=auto at the > lilo prompt. > > I've run rdev -v \boot\vmlinuz-2.2.15 -3 > > I've run vidmode

vga=ask

2000-06-01 Thread A. Scott White
I've set vga=ask in my lilo.conf and run lilo. I've specified the kernel image along with the command line vga=auto at the lilo prompt. I've run rdev -v \boot\vmlinuz-2.2.15 -3 I've run vidmode \boot\vmlinuz-2.2.15 -3 I have also tried all of the above with "extended&q

Re: vga=ask in lilo.conf

1999-12-26 Thread Nate Duehr
Hi Andy, The VGA stuff is kernel-based. SVGATextMode is a program that you can load after the kernel's loaded to use SVGA instead of VGA. So generally the answer to your question is, yes. However, you can use the SVGA stuff to get higher resolutions also. Personally, I don't use the SVGATextM

Re: vga=ask in lilo.conf

1999-12-25 Thread Andy Thomas
Hi, It's when it gets to "Invoking SVGATextMode..." on bootup that it switches back to 80x25. Is "svgatextmode" some sort of driver I should unload in order to get this to "stick?" Thanks Andy

Re: vga=ask in lilo.conf

1999-12-22 Thread Nate Duehr
ose"). Once > it "crashed the video" (after choosing something like 132 x something > mode)... another time I chose 80x50 and it went that way for awhile, then > reverted to 80x25. Most of the time though the menu never comes up at all > during boot. Not sure what's

vga=ask in lilo.conf

1999-12-21 Thread Andy Thomas
132 x something mode)... another time I chose 80x50 and it went that way for awhile, then reverted to 80x25. Most of the time though the menu never comes up at all during boot. vga=ask was indicated as an option by the O'Reilly book. TIA for any insight into this. Andy

Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-05 Thread Rick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- This may be a stupid question, but, are you typing make *config in the "/usr/src/linux" directory? It doesn't work in any other directory. If you are then you should replace your kernel source files because somthin aint right. On 05-Apr-97 Nikolaj Richers wrot

Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-05 Thread Nikolaj Richers
Hello Douglas and Carey, On 03-Apr-97, Douglas L Stewart wrote >On 4 Apr 1997, Carey Evans wrote: >> APM support can be in a 2.0.27 kernel if it's compiled in. >> Recompiling your kernel isn't too bad, if you make sure you have all >> the information about all your hardware and use "make menuconf

Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-04 Thread Douglas L Stewart
On 4 Apr 1997, Carey Evans wrote: > APM support can be in a 2.0.27 kernel if it's compiled in. > Recompiling your kernel isn't too bad, if you make sure you have all > the information about all your hardware and use "make menuconfig" or > "make xconfig". make-kpkg is supposed to make it easier to

Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-04 Thread John Foster
> > I do have one question about /lilo.conf/: I'd like Linux to use 480 > > pixels vertically rather than the 400 scans it seems to use by default. > > So I read and read and read, and eventually came accross the 'vga=ask' > > entry for lilo.conf. Only, it

Re: lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-04 Thread Carey Evans
Nikolaj Richers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I do have one question about /lilo.conf/: I'd like Linux to use 480 > pixels vertically rather than the 400 scans it seems to use by default. > So I read and read and read, and eventually came accross the 'vga=ask' &

lilo.conf--vga=ask doesn't; APM

1997-04-04 Thread Nikolaj Richers
rtically rather than the 400 scans it seems to use by default. So I read and read and read, and eventually came accross the 'vga=ask' entry for lilo.conf. Only, it doesn't ask anything, just boots up as it usually would, at 400 scans. Is this broken or am I missing an obvious st