On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
hello,

do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs
i found online surely doesn't work...

so i reverted to grub-legacy...

doesn't anybody check the crap that makes it into debian anymore?


I would love for you to tell that to the face of the Debian developers
who work very hard on every release.

i know they work hard.. that is probably the reason why such rather subtle regressions escape them..


because when i look in the documentation of the linux kernel it sure
says that vga=ask is still there...

but something retarded as a boot loader removes kernel options now?

Althought the vga=ext option is deprecated with the linux command in
Grub2, it is still available with the linux16 command in Grub2 as it is
with the linux command in Grub-legacy. If Grub2 displays "vga=ext is
deprecated. Use set gfxpayload=text before linux command instead" you
don't need to downgrade to grub-legacy. Just replace linux and initrd by
linux16 and initrd16 in each menuentry bloc you want to use VGA mode and
add vga=ext or vga=F01 near the end of the linux16 line to get 80x50
text consoles instead of framebuffer. You may also replace ext by F00,
F01, F02, F03, F05, F06 or F07 to get alternate VGA text resolutions
(respectively 80x25, 80x50, 80x43, 80x28, 80x30, 80x34 and 80x60). Use
vga=ask to get a chance at boot time to list all available VGA/VESA
resolutions and chose one interactively before Grub2 passes control to
the kernel. If you edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg instead of
/etc/grub.d/10_linux remember your changes will be dropped if
update-grub is launched. By the way, vga=normal is equivalent to vga=F00
and vga=ext is equivalent to vga=F01.

- 
http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition#fndef-231bbb76472490d8f289f110d30d2d982e08a663-0

thanks for your effort explaining this...

but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all this when even /lilo/ is still working...?

lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three function differently...

it is like someone wants to keep frustrating 08/15-users before linux has even booted...


wow... just wow.. i thought the linux desktop would have tiles like
windows8 but this is even worse... a bootloader breaks the kernel
features...

it really shows that linux is used by too many idiots now...


Perhaps you are referring to yourself there?

no i refer to people to whom it doesn't make a difference if they use windows or linux... people who do not care... but to whom everyone is catering and ruining linux as an operating system..

just look at all the bloat the ubuntu desktop requires to "start a program by clicking on a little icon"... it is a total joke..

i'll start a wiki on this bullshit.. how linux step-by-step becomes
a badly re-invented windows.. as a warning for freebsd...

i don't care about the user base my OS of choice has... but the
linux marketing has started writing the linux code now.. so it is
bye bye...

Goodbye, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.


not so fast.. there is still gentoo... :(


Dirk



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