Re: Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

> On 26 May 2025, at 09:47, Tim Woodall wrote: > > On Mon, 26 May 2025, Gareth Evans wrote: > >> Have you over/under-clocked or otherwise adjusted your CPU settings? >> > No, nothing changed >> This "solved" issue which seems to be similar is put down to processor core >> instability under

Re: Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

On Mon, 26 May 2025, Gareth Evans wrote: Have you over/under-clocked or otherwise adjusted your CPU settings? No, nothing changed This "solved" issue which seems to be similar is put down to processor core instability under certain conditions: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=2900

Re: Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

On Mon 26/05/2025 at 00:09, Gareth Evans wrote: > You don't seem to be dumping from read-only snapshots afaics, but that > these particular files might be changing between checksum and > [de-/]compression (or whichever comes first) seems an unlikely spanner in the > works. FTFM G

Re: Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

Have you over/under-clocked or otherwise adjusted your CPU settings? This "solved" issue which seems to be similar is put down to processor core instability under certain conditions: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=290093 As the last comment mentions, I was also wondering about the p

Re: Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

On 5/25/25 00:58, Tim Woodall wrote: Hi All, This is the third time I've had the same problem. The first time it happened I put it down to a freak cosmic ray event. The second time it happened gave me doubts but I cannot come up with a good alternative explanation. Now it's happened for a thi

Strange (cosmic ray?) corruption.

Hi All, This is the third time I've had the same problem. The first time it happened I put it down to a freak cosmic ray event. The second time it happened gave me doubts but I cannot come up with a good alternative explanation. Now it's happened for a third time I'm hoping that someone else

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

Hi, On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 10:50:26AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > It isn't Debian. It's that netblock. Try 191.97.36.54. I suspect that works because you are asking a LACNIC whois server for an IP in its own database, so it's not having to contact RIPE's whois, where the rejection seems to be

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

Hi, On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 11:34:52AM -0500, vi...@wlcr.net wrote: > On 2024/11/27 01:57 AM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > I get a similar but slightly different error message. > > > > tmb@hp-debian:~$ whois 191.96.36.56 > > % IP Client: 2607:fb90:db98:991c:6b9d:c93f:73d:7514 > >

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

Hi, On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 12:38:23PM -0500, vi...@wlcr.net wrote: > No idea how to troubleshoot that one. What specifically do you want to troubleshoot? My question would be: whois in Debian 11 seems to consistently receive the blocked query error showing a LACNIC IP while whois in De

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

It isn't Debian. It's that netblock. Try 191.97.36.54. Also try whois -r 191.96.36.54 -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On 2024/12/02 12:02 PM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 11:34:52AM -0500, vi...@wlcr.net wrote: On 2024/11/27 01:57 AM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: I get a similar but slightly different error message. tmb@hp-debian:~$ whois 191.96.36.56 % IP Client: 2607:fb90:db

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On 2024/11/27 01:57 AM, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 1:51 AM Timothy M Butterworth > wrote: On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:02 PM vi...@wlcr.net mailto:vi...@wlcr.net>> wrote: Can anyone expla

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

vi...@wlcr.net writes: > here's a new one of the same problem: > $ whois 191.96.36.52 It's anything in 191.96. 190.112.52.14 seems to belong to LACNIC. Seems unlikely but it looks like RIPE is blocking them. I don't know why the query goes first to LACNIC and then to RIPE. I don't think it's

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 4:27 AM George at Clug wrote: > > Curiosity got the better of me, so I installed "whois" and gave it a try. > > Below are the responses I get, for "$whois 191.96.36.56" and I tried a whois > on the ip in "%ERROR:201: access denied for 190.112.52.14" > > I wonder what this

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

Curiosity got the better of me, so I installed "whois" and gave it a try. Below are the responses I get, for "$whois 191.96.36.56"  and I tried a whois on the ip in "%ERROR:201: access denied for 190.112.52.14" I wonder what this information might mean to anyone? How would this information be u

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 1:51 AM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:02 PM vi...@wlcr.net wrote: > >> Can anyone explain why whois on a Debian server gets a rejection as if >> through a proxy server? >> >> Does the Debian command "whois"

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 4:02 PM vi...@wlcr.net wrote: > Can anyone explain why whois on a Debian server gets a rejection as if > through a proxy server? > > Does the Debian command "whois" not connect directly to the various > databases? > > > $whois 191.96.36.56 > % IP Client: 64.25x.xx.xx > %

Re: WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

On Tuesday, 26 November 2024 17:52:51 -03 vi...@wlcr.net wrote: > Can anyone explain why whois on a Debian server gets a rejection as if > through a proxy server? > > Does the Debian command "whois" not connect directly to the various > databases? > > > $whois 191.96.36.56 > % IP Client: 64.25x.xx.

WHOIS rejection from strange IP address

Can anyone explain why whois on a Debian server gets a rejection as if through a proxy server? Does the Debian command "whois" not connect directly to the various databases? $whois 191.96.36.56 % IP Client: 64.25x.xx.xx  % This is the RIPE Database query service. % The objects are in RPSL fo

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > I've already accumulated pretty long list. They all point to > different ISP networks in China. > The only thing I'm certain of is that they use "bttracker.debian.org" > to get peer information. > Maybe this is somehow tied to "webseed peer" of > "debian-12.5.0-

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

"Alexander V. Makartsev" wrote: > On 22.10.2024 08:17, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 22/10/2024 03:21, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >> If I manually throttle these connections they disconnect after > >> some time and soon after a new connection from another IP from the > >> same subnet or differe

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 22.10.2024 08:17, Max Nikulin wrote: On 22/10/2024 03:21, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: If I manually throttle these connections they disconnect after some time and soon after a new connection from another IP from the same subnet or different network establishes. May it happen that their i

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 22.10.2024 05:25, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: On Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 6:28 PM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 21.10.2024 16:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:  they actually speaking the BitTorrent protocol? Could this be caused by simply connecting to the host (in some kind of por

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 22/10/2024 03:21, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: If I manually throttle these connections they disconnect after some time and soon after a new connection from another IP from the same subnet or different network establishes. May it happen that their internet providers have NAT and pools of I

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024, 6:28 PM Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 21.10.2024 16:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > they actually speaking the BitTorrent protocol? Could this be caused by > simply connecting to the host (in some kind of port scan), or perhaps > connecting and probing for some oth

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 21.10.2024 16:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On 20/10/2024 15:44, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: Hello. I host some Debian ISO images via BitTorrent, among other things and recently I have noticed very high interest in one torrent in particular: "debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso". My torrent

Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 2:07 PM David wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 13:07 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > Somewhat related, does anyone know what happened to Tank Man, > > ? > > > > I've looked for him on occasion, but I have not found mention

回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

Sir,You are doing a great job.Keep moving - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月22日 02点09分 On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 02:06 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

ser > 主题：Re: 回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent > traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月22日 02点01分 > > On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 01:54 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote: > > Hi,JeffreySince 1949,CCP had killed more than 400 million people > > directly or indire

Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 13:07 -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 2:11 AM wrote: > > > > Hi,David > > Let me tell you the truth,Here is a case that programmer was put in > > prison due to criticize Chinese leader. > > CNN report > > https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/china/china-

回复：Re: 回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

How are you，Minister of Propaganda of Chinese Communist Party? - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月22日 02点01分 On Tue, 2024-10-22 at 01:54 +0800, loulet

Re: 回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

lifting-800-million-people-out-of-poverty-new-report-looks-at-lessons-from-china-s-experience > > > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：Jeffrey Walton > 收件人：loulet...@sina.com > 抄送人：debian-user > 主题：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent &g

回复：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

Hi,JeffreySince 1949,CCP had killed more than 400 million people directly or indirectly.As for tank man,he was probably killed by CCP. - 原始邮件 - 发件人：Jeffrey Walton 收件人：loulet...@sina.com 抄送人：debian-user 主题：Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange

Re: Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 2:11 AM wrote: > > Hi,David > Let me tell you the truth,Here is a case that programmer was put in prison > due to criticize Chinese leader. > CNN report > https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/29/china/china-blogger-sentenced-program-think-intl-mic-hnk/index.html > The actual ev

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, 21 Oct 2024 11:32:43 +0200 "Thomas Schmitt" wrote: > can we please have a call to order ? Hear, hear! While the subject is fascinating (except for the name-calling), it is well off topic. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/bl

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 20/10/2024 15:44, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: Hello. I host some Debian ISO images via BitTorrent, among other things and recently I have noticed very high interest in one torrent in particular: "debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso". My torrent client shows multiple connections from various ne

Re: [OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

Hi, can we please have a call to order ? David wrote: > In fact, the only thing you have shown here is the effect American > control over German media has managed to turn Germany into the shithole > it currently finds itself in. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

- > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent > traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月21日 16点51分 > > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 16:41 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote: > > Listen to me,DavidI born i

回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

You seem like a Minister of Propaganda work for Communist Party of China.Good Job.Keep Moving  - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月21日 16点51分 On Mon, 2024

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

you like: I know you're nothing more than a silly little propaganda bot. > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent > traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月21日 15点57分 >

回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

fully view about the  reality of China.To be honest,the foreigner have much more human right than Chinese in China - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月21日 15点57分 O

回复：Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

ed by Government.The foreign news agency are also restricted to do report in China - 原始邮件 - 发件人： 收件人：David 抄送人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月21日 15点41分 On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:33:56P

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 09:41 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:33:56PM +1000, David wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 14:05 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote: > > [...] > > > CNN report. > > That says it all. > > While CNN isn't a very credible source, there are other, far

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 09:41 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:33:56PM +1000, David wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 14:05 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote: > > [...] > > > CNN report. > > That says it all. > > While CNN isn't a very credible source, there are other, far

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

On Mon, Oct 21, 2024 at 04:33:56PM +1000, David wrote: > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 14:05 +0800, loulet...@sina.com wrote: [...] > CNN report. > That says it all. While CNN isn't a very credible source, there are other, far more credible, which make a compelling point about human rights violations an

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

#x27;t bullshit! Take your agenda elsewhere. > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent > traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月21日 06点06分 > > On Mon, 2024-10-21 at 05:29 +0800

回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

report.Maybe you should seek more information about China human rights,then you will have a good sight about these thing. - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月21日 06点06分 On

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

this is not a list to promote your propaganda efforts. Try elsewhere! Cheers! > > > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月21日 05点22分

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

this is not a list to promote your propaganda efforts, whether you're Falun Gong or Taiwanese separatist. Try elsewhere! Cheers! > > > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorren

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

ogrammer fined, not imprisoned, who is currently appealing his case. Cheers! > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人：David > 收件人：debian-user > 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs > 日期：2024年10月21日 05点22分 > > On Mon, 2024

Re: 回复：Re: 回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

in China, uses a VPN. It's an open secret. The authorities know about it, and as long as it's not overt, they don't do anything about it. Cheers! > > > > > > - 原始邮件 - > 发件人："Alexander V. Makartsev" >

回复：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

How to say.If Chinese criticize government especially President Xi,then will be put in prison.In recent years,much programmers are put into prison due to criticize President Xi. - 原始邮件 - 发件人：David 收件人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：Re:_回复：[OT] Strange

Re: 回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

On 21.10.2024 00:19, loulet...@sina.com wrote: Because of Great Fire Wall?China's network is more complex than other western countries.I am from China. ... Well this doesn't explain botnet-like behavior. What is the ultimate goal for doing this? Is this to somehow mask the traffic? Deep Packet

回复：Re: 回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs

ot; 收件人：loulet...@sina.com 抄送人：debian-user 主题：Re: 回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic_from_China_IPs 日期：2024年10月21日 03点41分 On 21.10.2024 00:19, loulet...@sina.com wrote: Because of Great Fire Wall?China's network is more complex than other western count

回复：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

Because of Great Fire Wall?China's network is more complex than other western countries.I am from China. - 原始邮件 - 发件人："Alexander V. Makartsev" 收件人：debian-user 主题：[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs 日期：2024年10月21

[OT] Strange BitTorrent traffic from China IPs

hat single one. Does anybody have something like this on their BitTorrent clients, or have some thoughts about this? Should I report this strange behavior to admin of Debian torrent tracker (bttracker.debian.org)? Any theory about why they are interested only in that single torrent and noth

strange behavior with Nvidia driver on Bookworm (12)

Since I installed a GTX 970 and the Nvidia driver on my Bookworm (12) system, I've noticed some odd behavior. I'll start with the most obnoxious. I'm open to any ideas. Well, not _any_ any. 1. Last night before I went to bed I suspended my computer at 2:24:55. The next log message is at 7:08:

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Tuesday, 30-07-2024 at 02:21 Jan Krapivin wrote: > There is Debian community in Discord > > https://discord.gg/debian > > https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217&hilit=discord#p803217 > > пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, : > > > Michel Verdier wrote: > > > On 2024-07-28, Michael Gra

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Hi, (I am subscribed to the list, but a CC would be appreciated :) ) On 7/28/24 16:53, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: >> Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not will

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdownpackage)

On 7/29/24 04:47, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] I can't even post a 10k .png here. I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small. It may have been bigger, its long forgotten but it was small and it was silently st

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

There is Debian community in Discord https://discord.gg/debian https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=803217&hilit=discord#p803217 пн, 29 июл. 2024 г. в 19:15, : > Michel Verdier wrote: > > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > > > +1 to all you say. > > > > > Maybe one of you younger fol

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > +1 to all you say. > > > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with > > keeping up with a forum like that. > > Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a > mail-to-news gateway. It ease a lot

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 06:24:35 +0200 wrote: > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to > > > join it... > > > > Sadly, the Debi

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > > > On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: > > > > Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of > > > > software

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: > > +1 to all you say. > > > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping > > up with a forum like that. > > Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news > gateway. It ease a lot c

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 04:32:43AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > [...] I can't even post a 10k .png here. I don't believe you. There sure is a limit, 10k seems too small. It'd be unpolite anyway -- forcing 6k people to download your attachments (there are still folks on limited bandwidth, y'know).

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behaviorofifupdown package)

On 7/29/24 03:53, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of software made by different people with different purposes. You are the first person to hav

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 02:44:03 -0400 Jeffrey Walton wrote: Hello Jeffrey, >don't allow search engines to crawl their sites. I hadn't even considered that. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent"

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior ofifupdown package)

Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 11:00:08PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: > > Discourse is not Discord. They are completely different pieces of > > software made by different people with different purposes. You are > > the first person to have mentioned Discord in thi

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Hi, On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:06:09AM +, Walt E wrote: > In some companies they block web traffic to those big forums like reddit. > but mail is always possible to access. Reality check: in a thread about the best way to help end users in 2024, someone suggests that email mailing lists are t

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 1:53 AM Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500 > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Hello Nate, > > >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI > > Discourse also does this; > > Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a support

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On 2024-07-28, Michael Grant wrote: +1 to all you say. > Maybe one of you younger folks can teach me how one deals with keeping > up with a forum like that. Once upon a time there was usenet. After a while there was a mail-to-news gateway. It ease a lot coping with this change of medium. If the

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 21:04:30 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: Hello Nate, >Discourse and Discord are two different technologies, AIUI Discourse also does this; Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply. Whilst it's not i

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and > bless a moder

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior ofifupdown package)

On 7/28/24 22:02, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I like this forum/format Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but… IMO Discord pretty much sucks. Discourse is no

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

July 29, 2024 at 9:09 AM, "Patrick Wiseman" wrote: > > > > I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with > > it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks > > quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful. > > Patrick > In s

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

* On 2024 28 Jul 20:11 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I mostly lurk here but I like this forum/format and hope Debian sticks with > it. IMO Discord pretty much sucks. There's a r/debian subreddit which looks > quite active and I've found other subreddits helpful. Discourse and Discord are two dif

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 09:09:39PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > I like this forum/format Not wanting to try to convince people on a mailing list to not be on a mailing list, so keeping this brief, but… > IMO Discord pretty much sucks. Discourse is not Discord. They are completely differe

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:32:58PM -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > I never read web forums, I only really search for things in a > search engine and then end up on a forum with possible answers. The fact is that millions of tech questions are asked and answered on Stack-like sites, probably mor

Re: Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 08:53:18PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... > > Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and > bless a moder

Where is the user community? (Was Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package)

Hi, On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 06:15:21PM +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it... Sadly, the Debian project is not willing to move with the times and bless a modern web support community such as Discourse (a Stack Overflow or AskUbuntu-l

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Sun, Jul 28, 2024 at 19:08:58 +, MailGuard01 wrote: > Is it still reasonable to add my experience to existing bug report, > or should I submit a new one instead? Adding to an existing bug report is a good thing, especially if you can bring new insights, new examples, etc.

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 18:15:21 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Ian Molton wrote: Hello Ian, >Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join Don't know. Never considered switching. From the web forums I have used, I've ascertained that they offer nothing that can't be done on a mailing

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Friday, July 26th, 2024 at PM 10:42, David Wright wrote: > There is a bug report #960809, which seems related, and > might be worth adding your experience to, if you think so. > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=960809 > Thank you for letting me know about this. I also n

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

Which web forum has the commuity moved to then? I should like to join it...

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On 2024-07-28, Ian Molton wrote: > https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png > > An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons. > > But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no doubt. Members remains around 3000 so I don't see a decline for this. Messages decline b

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 09:35:22 +0100 (GMT+01:00) Ian Molton wrote: Hello Ian, >An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons. Same for most MLs; People think web forums are better. Passive/aggressive messages don't help, either. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{spa

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

Hi, As I said - the mailing list stats. Public record. Heres a picture. https://lists.debian.org/stats/debian-user.png An alarming decline, with a multitude of reasons. But lack of community will be the one that ends that graph. Be in no doubt.

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On 2024-07-26, Ian Molton wrote: > Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you personally > try to help. And *was helped*. So I am not alone :) > The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they are indeed > of concern. Can you give the statistics which

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Fri, 2024-07-26 at 23:12 +0100, Ian Molton wrote: > Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you > personally try to help. > > The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they > are > indeed of concern. > > Like so many open source projects, Debian is

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

Michael, that was not a personal attack. I am in no doubt that you personally try to help. The statistics for this list, however, are public record. And they are indeed of concern. Like so many open source projects, Debian is clearly showing a loss of community, and whilst it continues to be

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On Wed 24 Jul 2024 at 14:29:34 (+), MailGuard01 wrote: > I am trying to complete the network configuration on Debian 12 using the > default > installed `ifupdown` package. I have noticed some confusing behavior with > `ifupdown` while following the manual pages. > > Specifically, when I place

Re: Strange behavior of ifupdown package

On 2024-07-26, Ian Molton wrote: > The attitude these days seems to be that 'if its not in bugzilla, no one > cares' > > Seems like the Debian project is forgetting that it is a social endeavour, not > a (increasingly small) handful of Devs vanity project... I largely disagree with that. I was he

Strange behavior of ifupdown package

Hi. Sorry, i cant help with your specific problem. Just didn't want you to feel alone... I don't know whats becoming of Debian these days. Users need to stick together,  but the traffic stats for these lists paint a bleak picture. The attitude these days seems to be that 'if its not in bugz

Strange behavior of ifupdown package

Hi all, I am trying to complete the network configuration on Debian 12 using the default installed `ifupdown` package. I have noticed some confusing behavior with `ifupdown` while following the manual pages. Specifically, when I place `iface eno1 inet6 auto` with `privext 2` after `iface inet eno

Re: Strange Problem

Thank you for the guidance, I really appreciate it. On 06/29/2024 03:34 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 6/29/24 10:01, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 06/29/2024 12:28 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On 29/06/2024 15:13, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just restated by Xfce4 user on my Bookworm system

Re: Strange Problem

On 6/29/24 10:01, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: On 06/29/2024 12:28 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On 29/06/2024 15:13, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just restated by Xfce4 user on my Bookworm system and find that I can no longer resize some of the apps on the desktop and the icons in the upper right

Re: Strange Problem

On 06/29/2024 12:28 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: On 29/06/2024 15:13, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just restated by Xfce4 user on my Bookworm system and find that I can no longer resize some of the apps on the desktop and the icons in the upper right corner of the tool bar are missing. Ofte

Re: Strange Problem

On 29/06/2024 15:13, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just restated by Xfce4 user on my Bookworm system and find that I can no longer resize some of the apps on the desktop and the icons in the upper right corner of the tool bar are missing. Often, this is an indication that the window manager

Re: Strange Problem

On 06/29/2024 10:13 AM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: I have just restated by Xfce4 user on my Bookworm system and find that I can no longer resize some of the apps on the desktop and the icons in the upper right corner of the tool bar are missing. This is only om my user directory, the root dire

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