Re: partition magic-ally

On 8 Jun 2005 12:05:38 -0700 "prash" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello, > i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my > favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too > (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). > i have decided on this scheme to

Re: partition magic-ally

prash wrote: hello, i installed the partitions using lvm on my home machine which only has 10 GB. here is a df -h: mantra:/home/prash# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/rootvol-root 1.7G 200M 1.4G 13% / tmpfs 126M

Re: partition magic-ally

hello, i installed the partitions using lvm on my home machine which only has 10 GB. here is a df -h: mantra:/home/prash# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/rootvol-root 1.7G 200M 1.4G 13% / tmpfs 126M 0 126M

Re: partition magic-ally

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:21:57PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: When I first tried out the new installer yes I did read what documentation was available (the version of the installer I used was a pretty early release so I thought it would be worth mugging up on it) but

Re: partition magic-ally

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:21:57PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > > When I first tried out the new installer yes I did read what documentation > was > available (the version of the installer I used was a pretty early release so > I > thought it would be worth mugging up on it) but I admit that t

Re: partition magic-ally

thanks everyone for your suggestions. i do accept that lvm was a little difficult to grasp, but once i got the hang of it, it was a breeze. thanks roberto for a great idea! the thing i forgot to do that made me confused for awhile, was that i did not set the single partition to be of type "Physical

Re: partition magic-ally

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:28:44PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: If you have not yet installed, then don't worry about it. The installer lets you choose LVM as an option. Then you can add your harddrive as a physical volume and then make it the logical volume. From the

Re: partition magic-ally

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:28:44PM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: > >If you have not yet installed, then don't worry about it. The installer > >lets you choose LVM as an option. Then you can add your harddrive as a > >physical volume and then make it the logical volume. From there you can > >create

Re: partition magic-ally

If you have not yet installed, then don't worry about it. The installer lets you choose LVM as an option. Then you can add your harddrive as a physical volume and then make it the logical volume. From there you can create volume groups, which are analogous to partitions but can be resized at w

Re: partition magic-ally

On Wednesday June 8 2005 12:05 pm, prash wrote: > hello, > 1. why should i (and how can i) define a /tmp partition when i > don't know what temporary space each app might take? a dvd burner > might decide to take 4 gb, a regular app just 10 kb. if i go higher > it's a waste 95% of the time, lower a

Re: partition magic-ally

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 03:07:12PM -0700, prash wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > Scrap the whole scheme. Just use LVM. Trust me on this. It is quite > > worth it. Setting up LVM on a new drive is a piece of cake. Trying to > > do it once the drive has been in use for a year and you h

Re: partition magic-ally

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:05:38PM -0700, prash wrote: > > hello, > > i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my > > favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too > > (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). > > i hav

Re: partition magic-ally

On 2005-06-08, prash wrote: > hello, > i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my > favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too > (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). > i have decided on this scheme to begin with: > / : 7.

Re: partition magic-ally

prash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | hello, | i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my | favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too | (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). | i have decided on this scheme to begin with: | /

Re: partition magic-ally

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 12:05:38PM -0700, prash wrote: > hello, > i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my > favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too > (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). > i have decided on this scheme to begin with

partition magic-ally

hello, i have a spanking new machine with a 40 gb hard disk - all for my favorite distro! of course too much space is a bad thing too (especially when you don't know how to allocate it). i have decided on this scheme to begin with: / : 7.0 gb swap: 1.5 gb (i have

Re: partition magic?

belahcene wrote: Hi every body, I have a machine with only ONE partion where win$ is installed, I want the equivalent of magicPartition ( something like diskdrake of mandrake on debian), either on windows or on linux ( to run it from knoppix) to create a new partition without loosing the co

Re: Re: partition magic?

yes may be resize2fs could do it I don't check it , but don't forget that I want to resize the partition, before installing the linux, if it is , why to resize ?? so I want to use it either via gnoppix, knoppix or any other live-cd, or from windows. I tried on Knoppix 3.6, it 's true that qtpa

Re: partition magic?

re about the name) It is included in knoppix at least since 3.4 Presume that's just a frontend to parted. But parted always gives me messages about "a strange layout" although it is a brandnew partition created with cfdisk! I used to keep XP around for partition magic until the t

Re: partition magic?

s included in knoppix at least since 3.4 Presume that's just a frontend to parted. But parted always gives me messages about "a strange layout" although it is a brandnew partition created with cfdisk! I used to keep XP around for partition magic until the time it messed up my

Re: Re: partition magic?

thank you I find it, this tool is not integarted to the debian installeur ? I is in suse!! suse ( this is not the case for RH ou fedora at least for RC2) at the installation step, gives the possibility for disk partitionning. it will be very usefull, if it is integrated in next releases!! t

Re: partition magic?

Hi! belahcene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 25/11/2004 10:57:25 AM: > Hi every body, > I have  a machine with only ONE partion where win$ is installed, > I want the equivalent of magicPartition ( something like diskdrake of > mandrake on debian), either  on windows or on linux ( to run it  from

partition magic?

Hi every body, I have a machine with only ONE partion where win$ is installed, I want the equivalent of magicPartition ( something like diskdrake of mandrake on debian), either on windows or on linux ( to run it from knoppix) to create a new partition without loosing the content ( in gener

Re: qtparted (was) Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 08:33:20PM -0500, Abdul Latip wrote: > I wrote: > > > Thanks! I will try that and let you know if it works. > > PS: qtparted depends on "sid"'s libparted1.6-0 > > Well, libparted1.6-0 needs a recent libc6, and therefore > this the end of the qtparted story: I don't dare >

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

Abdul Latip wrote: On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, D. wrote: Use Mandrake GNU/Linux installation CD :-) Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 Well, unfortunately, I am trying to sell "Debian" through "Knoppix"; not "Mandrake" :^). I believe that he was giving you another option that would part

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, D. wrote: >>> Use Mandrake GNU/Linux installation CD :-) >>> Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 >> Well, unfortunately, I am trying to sell "Debian" >> through "Knoppix"; not "Mandrake" :^). > I believe that he was giving you another option that > would partitio

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

--- Abdul Latip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Use Mandrake GNU/Linux installation CD :-) > > Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 > > Well, unfortunately, I am trying to sell "Debian" > through > "Knoppix"; not "Mandrake" :^). > > Thanks any

Re: qtparted (was) Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

I wrote: > Thanks! I will try that and let you know if it works. > PS: qtparted depends on "sid"'s libparted1.6-0 Well, libparted1.6-0 needs a recent libc6, and therefore this the end of the qtparted story: I don't dare to upgrade libc6 :-( regards, -- Abdul Latip -- Angkasa Internet Junior Sta

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Use Mandrake GNU/Linux installation CD :-) > Mandrake Linux release 9.0 (dolphin) for i586 Well, unfortunately, I am trying to sell "Debian" through "Knoppix"; not "Mandrake" :^). Thanks anyway... -- Abdul Latip -- Angkasa Internet Junior Staff -- ANGIN

qtparted (was) Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Donald Spoon wrote: > If you are interested in a GUI front-end to Parted, take a look at > "qtparted". This is very ALPHA software, IMHO, but seems to be > progressing nicely. You can find details at: > > http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/ > The last time I looked, there was

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 03:04:13AM -0500, Abdul Latip wrote: > Second, I am wondering if there exists a "PARTITION > MAGIC"-like software in Debian (better than fips?). > How easy is it to split a VFAT/ You-Know-What-Os > partition on the fly. Use Mandrake GNU

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:04, Abdul Latip wrote: > Second, I am wondering if there exists a "PARTITION > MAGIC"-like software in Debian (better than fips?). > How easy is it to split a VFAT/ You-Know-What-Os > partition on the fly. this is obviously not part of debia

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

Know-What-Os partition on Abdul> the fly. parted knows is able everything Partitiion Magic does. Except ntfs :-( Partition Magic is the only resize program that is able to work with ntfs, I think. :-) Parted works pretty well, but is mostly c

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

tware in Debian (better than fips?). How > Abdul> easy is it to split a VFAT/ You-Know-What-Os partition on > Abdul> the fly. > > parted knows is able everything Partitiion Magic does. > Except ntfs :-( > > Partition Magic is th

Re: Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

/ You-Know-What-Os partition on Abdul> the fly. parted knows is able everything Partitiion Magic does. Except ntfs :-( Partition Magic is the only resize program that is able to work with ntfs, I think. :-) -- Jan Stavel -- To UNSUB

Partition Magic-like S/W for Knoppix/Debian

Once you have installed Knoppix, it basically becomes a debian..." And, based on the "/etc/apt/apt.conf" file, it is a "testing" one. Second, I am wondering if there exists a "PARTITION MAGIC"-like software in Debian (better than fips?). How easy is it to split a VFA

Re: installing on an ext.2 partition created by partition magic

ou are booting windows and linux, don't use linux's *fdisk tools. They work correctly, but do not create an MS compatible partition table. I got my dad to use partition magic to partition his disk for linux and it worked fine. Just specify the partition you want during install and be su

Re: installing on an ext.2 partition created by partition magic

It should be possible to install debian on an existing ext2 partition. However I believe you should solve the bad things ?fdisk does to your partition table prior to installation so that you will not be beaten by it in the future. Perhaps MS fdisk is the one you should use? Isn't it best to hand

installing on an ext.2 partition created by partition magic

is it possible to install debian on an existing ext2 partition? when i use cfdisk or fdisk it screws up my partition table. i'm attempting to multi-boot Win98, W2K, and Linux.Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $0.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger.

Re: Partition Magic Help?

>Does anyone know what the EB means, and is there any way to get my data >from those partitions back? I'm extremely desperate here. You're going to have to call Powerquest Tech Support. Doesn't sound good at all. -- *-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-*-^-* Michael Leone

Partition Magic Help?

Hi, this is somewhat related to the newsgroup (as I was also going to be using Partition Magic to set up some linux space). I was installing BEOS which comes with a special addition partition magic (I also have the regular version) and it was in the middle of installing a BEOS partition when it

Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Has anyone used Partition Magic in order to resize partitions under > Debian? The software claims to support resizing Linux EXT2 filesystems, > etc, but will I trash my system if I do so? I used Norton Ghost to image > my system from a 2.1 gig drive t

Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian

Partition Magic v4 and v5 both work well as far as resizing, copying, moving Linux partitions. I've never had it do any harm to the ext2fs file system itself. However, when you use PM to resize/move a bootable partition that has Lilo installed in it's boot sector, be prepared to b

Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian

I used partition magic 4 when it first came out. It worked fairly well, but I found that it would corrupt logical partitions made under linux fdisk. Basically it would change the partition type of the extended partition which would hide the logical partitions. And if I recall re-setting the

Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian

On Sat, Jul 22, 2000 at 04:07:14PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone used Partition Magic in order to resize partitions under Debian? > The software claims to support resizing Linux EXT2 filesystems, etc, but will > I > trash my system if I do so? I used Norton Ghost

Re: Using Partition Magic with Debian

I have successfully used Partition Magic to alter the size of partitions which already have assigned mount points (I installed from an MS-DOS partition and then deleted the partition and made it part of root). It made the system scan the whole thing next time I booted up, but nothing bad happened

Using Partition Magic with Debian

Has anyone used Partition Magic in order to resize partitions under Debian? The software claims to support resizing Linux EXT2 filesystems, etc, but will I trash my system if I do so? I used Norton Ghost to image my system from a 2.1 gig drive to an 8.4 gig drive and it's working great s

RE: Partition magic

>= Original Message From "deztructor2024" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >Hola, oye me puedes enviar porfavor el partition magic ?? sea la version que sea Pienso que usted piensa en LILO (la CARGADORA de LINUX) y un programa llams fdisk (cual linux tiene). Estos y

Partition magic

Hola, oye me puedes enviar porfavor el partition magic ?? sea la version que sea

Re: free partition magic type thing

>does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? including Well I don't know if the free XFDISK does everything you are looking for but it's a rather good bootmanager/partitioner. See for yourself. "http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzsv20/";. O. Wyss

Re: free partition magic type thing

Tried it less than a week ago on both EXT2 and a Vfat partition, worked nicely, although I will stress on backups as well. Peter "Cory T. Echols" wrote: > > On 06/02, da Bobstopper wrote: > > does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? > &

Re: free partition magic type thing

da Bobstopper wrote: > does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? including > the ability to alter the size and features of existing > partitions? I have used GNU Parted successfully to do this under Linux. I don't know whether it works under windows

Re: free partition magic type thing

da Bobstopper wrote: > > does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? try FIPS at http://www.tucows.com search for FIPS Realize there is risk in what you are doing, make sure you perform a full backup first. Even partition-magic trashes partitions from time t

Re: free partition magic type thing

On 06/02, da Bobstopper wrote: > does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? GNU parted does this (according to its man page). I haven't tried it though. > > what i'm figuring is that if we want to push free software, we've got to make > i

free partition magic type thing

does anyone know of a free software equivalent of partition magic? including the ability to alter the size and features of existing partitions? i'm thinking it's about time there was one and i might get desperate enough to write my own if anyone else thinks it's a good idea (don

partition magic

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Re: partition magic

partition magic rocks for setting up linux partitions, i use it often, the partitions just have to be the right type the label doesnt matter. nate On Fri, 14 Jan 2000, David Pilz wrote: dpilz >installing linux for the first time - was wondering if anyone has had dpilz >any experi

Re: partition magic

> >From this point, just install Debian. During the installation, "cfdisk" will > >appear. Use it to create the partitions you need in the free space you > >created. It will create the ext2 (82) filesystem for you. It will also allow > >you to create the swap (83) partition. Sorry - an error

Re: partition magic

> > >From this point, just install Debian. During the installation, "cfdisk" will > >appear. Use it to create the partitions you need in the free space you > >created. It will create the ext2 (82) filesystem for you. It will also allow > >you to create the swap (83) partition. Sorry - an err

Re: partition magic

> installing linux for the first time - was wondering if anyone has had > any experience w/ partition magic. i used it to partition 6 Mb for my > current C: (windows98) and 4Mb of free space intended for debian. do i > need the free space partition to be labeled linux ext2? what abou

partition magic

installing linux for the first time - was wondering if anyone has had any experience w/ partition magic. i used it to partition 6 Mb for my current C: (windows98) and 4Mb of free space intended for debian. do i need the free space partition to be labeled linux ext2? what about creating a swap

Re: Linux and Partition Magic

Bob Nielsen wrote: > > I have used Partition Magic 4.0 to expand and move a Linux partition and > it worked fine. After doing this, I had to boot from a floppy and run > LILO before I could boot Linux from LILO, however. > I have also had this happen to me. I have contacted Powe

Re: Linux and Partition Magic

I have used Partition Magic 4.0 to expand and move a Linux partition and it worked fine. After doing this, I had to boot from a floppy and run LILO before I could boot Linux from LILO, however. Bob On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Christian Dysthe wrote: > Hello Debian-user, > > I have Windows

Re: Linux and Partition Magic

> Hello Debian-user, > I have Windows and Linux on my HD. As time has passed I now prefer > my Debian installation and seldom use Windows (big surprise, eh?:) Nope, same here. ;-) > I want to expand/move my Linux partition and I do have Partition > Magic on my sys

Re: Linux and Partition Magic

> Hello Debian-user, > > I have Windows and Linux on my HD. As time has passed I now prefer > my Debian installation and seldom use Windows (big surprise, eh?:) > > I want to expand/move my Linux partition and I do have Partition > Magic on my system. Will using Pa

Linux and Partition Magic

Hello Debian-user, I have Windows and Linux on my HD. As time has passed I now prefer my Debian installation and seldom use Windows (big surprise, eh?:) I want to expand/move my Linux partition and I do have Partition Magic on my system. Will using Partition Magic harm my Linux

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: > I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. > > Has anybody used Partiti

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

> I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. > > Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 par

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

Hello Roman, ... > Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does > it work correctly? I once had an infelicity with an earlier version of Partition Magic: I was moving from one HD to another, and while PM showed both to have the partitions etc in the same ord

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: > I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. > > Has anybo

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

[Partition magic 4.00 & ext2] > Worked flawlessly, on two different systems. This product is a must. > Will it deal with partition that partition magic 3.0 won't touch? I used cfdisk's "maximize" option when creating a big ext2 partition. That gave me a slightly bi

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

On Mon, Nov 30, 1998 at 09:18:08PM -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote: > Hopefully it does, since I just ordered it. Actually if you are going to > pre-partition the drive, it should work just fine--version 3.0 does also. > 3.0 won't allow you do change existing ext2 partitions, but you can move > around an

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: > I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. > > Has anybo

Re: Partition Magic 4.0

he HD. Then use linux fdisk to create the linux partitions. Steve On Mon, 30 Nov 1998, Roman Malinowski wrote: > I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims

RE: Partition Magic 4.0

> I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on > it. > I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since > Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. > > Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 p

Partition Magic 4.0

I am about to install Debian 2.00 onto my PC with Windows 95 already on it. I want to pre partition hard drive with Partition Magic 4.00 since Powerquest Corp claims that v4.00 fully supports Linux's ext2. Has anybody used Partition Magic 4.00 to create ext2 partitions and does it work corr

Re: Program like Partition Magic

The newer fips 1.5c and 2.0 supposedly handle fat32, but I haven't had any opportunity to try this. Bob On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Martin Waller wrote: > > >Fips is available on your convenient local Debian mirror in the tools > sub- > >directory... > > > > Does it work with fat32 partitions yet, o

Re: Program like Partition Magic

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 22:26:07 +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: > > Theres a new version that does fat32: fips15c supports it. > > That was an unofficial version; there's now an official version (2.0) which > support it; it is available in the "to

Re: Program like Partition Magic

On Wed, Nov 18, 1998 at 22:26:07 +1300, Michael Beattie wrote: > Theres a new version that does fat32: fips15c supports it. That was an unofficial version; there's now an official version (2.0) which support it; it is available in the "tools" directory of Debian mirrors. Ray -- J.H.M. Dassen

Re: Program like Partition Magic

On Wed, 18 Nov 1998, Martin Waller wrote: > > >Fips is available on your convenient local Debian mirror in the tools > sub- > >directory... > > > > Does it work with fat32 partitions yet, or is it still only fat16? > Theres a new version that does fat32: fips15c supports it.

Re: Program like Partition Magic

>Fips is available on your convenient local Debian mirror in the tools sub- >directory... > Does it work with fat32 partitions yet, or is it still only fat16? Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Re: Program like Partition Magic

On Tue, Nov 17, 1998 at 11:36:32PM -0500, Joseph Hartmann wrote: > > I know it is called fips, but I don't know where you can get it. > Fips is available on your convenient local Debian mirror in the tools sub- directory... Regards, -- /(__ __|\ Lars Steinke, Research Student @

Re: Program like Partition Magic

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Re: Program like Partition Magic

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/fips20.zip On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Eliezer Figueroa wrote: > I know there is a free program that can change the size of a partition > without lose of data. Someone know how to get it? > > > __ > Get Your Private

Program like Partition Magic

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partition magic 4.0

I just found that Powerquest released their partition magic 4.0 and it now supports the Linux ext2 filesystem. It can resizes Linux partitions now:) Lawrence Chim