Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:37:08 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW, I have > > MODULES=dep > COMPRESS=lzma > > in `/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf`, which helps keep the size of > the initrd in check. Indeed. Thank you. Making the first change knocked my initrd from 67M down to about

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Ruslanas Gžibovskis composed on 2024-08-21 16:16 (UTC+0300): > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a Are you sure you

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Ruslanas Gžibovskis [2024-08-21 16:16:54] wrote: > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a > simple kernel now has the

edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hi all, Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a simple kernel now has the size of 234 MB, each time it needs to regenerate even the same

Re: Net install installer fails to access any mirror...........

2022-04-29 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 16:00:20 +0300 IL Ka wrote: > While installing, what was the result of "Detect network hardware" and > "Configure the network" steps? > Click "ctrl+alt+F2", and type "ip addr" to check if address is configured > correctly. Try to ping your router. Then, mirror. > > > > On F

Re: Net install installer fails to access any mirror...........

2022-04-29 Thread Charlie
On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 15:01:23 +0200 Christian Britz wrote: > On 2022-04-29 13:54 UTC+0200, Charlie wrote: > > > On both of these the installer does not find any mirror I select, for > > the last 3 days. > > Can you give more details of the error message? Have you tried the CDN > deb.debian.org

Re: Net install installer fails to access any mirror...........

2022-04-29 Thread Christian Britz
On 2022-04-29 13:54 UTC+0200, Charlie wrote: > On both of these the installer does not find any mirror I select, for > the last 3 days. Can you give more details of the error message? Have you tried the CDN deb.debian.org as mirror? That is usually the best option. > No error messages that th

Re: Net install installer fails to access any mirror...........

2022-04-29 Thread IL Ka
While installing, what was the result of "Detect network hardware" and "Configure the network" steps? Click "ctrl+alt+F2", and type "ip addr" to check if address is configured correctly. Try to ping your router. Then, mirror. On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:55 PM Charlie wrote: > > Hello Eve

Net install installer fails to access any mirror...........

2022-04-29 Thread Charlie
Hello Everyone, I have used from this site: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable the Debian installer 11.3.0 bullseye AMD64 on a laptop and a desktop. On both of these the installer does not find any mirror I select, for the last 3 days. No error messages

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-03-01 Thread David Wright
On Sat 29 Feb 2020 at 21:45:48 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-29 20:20, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote: > > > On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote: > > > > > > [The free/non-free distinction] ... is well-explained, and in fuzzy > > > prin

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-03-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 29 feb 20, 21:45:48, John Kaufmann wrote: > > I have to agree with that script: a Thinkpad without wifi could fairly > be called a non-working system... which comes back to my two-part > first question, about the philosophical/operational aspect of the > "free" commitment: > - Is it a c

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-29 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-29 20:20, David Wright wrote: On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote: On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote: [The free/non-free distinction] ... is well-explained, and in fuzzy principle I like the explanation. In functional terms, it only became an issue for me when

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu 27 Feb 2020 at 17:13:26 (-0500), John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote: > > On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > > ... I'm beginning to get a sense > > > that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images. > > > > I think they don't do a good job of explai

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 09:41, Lee wrote: On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote: ... I'm beginning to get a sense that debian.org has /way/ over-complicated the installation images. I think they don't do a good job of explaining things for newbies - especially the implications of "free software only" (or wh

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 03:46, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: Distribution directories: [1] cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/ [2] cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmwa

Re: Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-27 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-27 03:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote:> On Mi, 26 feb 20, 15:19:06, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso In case it's not obvious, the "firmware" image is the same as the regular i

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Lee
On 2/27/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: >> On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: >>> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and(3) f

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 2/27/20 12:46 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 10:46:55 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > It might be a good idea to stop building the multiarch image in 2020. > Most users should install amd64 anyway and those that *really* need > i386 are likely able to find the correct image anyway. On the other tentacle, some of us have

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 27 feb 20, 02:03:56, John Kaufmann wrote: > On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: > > > On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > > > > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > > > > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > > > > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-ne

Re: Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 26 feb 20, 15:19:06, John Kaufmann wrote: > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso In case it's not obvious, the "firmware" image is the same as the regular image + firmware (i.e. you don't need both).

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-26 23:34, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and (3) firmware-edu

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-26 22:49, Peter Ehlert wrote: On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and(3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] A. Dis

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread John Kaufmann
On 2020-02-26 22:20, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] A. Disk (1) begins without problem, th

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread Lee
On 2/26/20, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: >> On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: >>> For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: >>> (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso >>> (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso >>> and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case]

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread Peter Ehlert
On 2/26/20 7:20 PM, Lee wrote: On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] A. Disk (1) begins without problem, t

Re: Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread Lee
On 2/26/20, John Kaufmann wrote: > For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: > (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso > and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] > > A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware: T

Net Install: Installation halts for disk change

2020-02-26 Thread John Kaufmann
For my Thinkpad, I burned CDs with: (1) debian-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso (2) firmware-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso and (3) firmware-edu-10.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso [just in case] A. Disk (1) begins without problem, then stops for wifi firmware: "Some of your hardware needs non-free

Re: Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 15:19:06 -0500 John Kaufmann wrote: From my experience with my small herd of Thinkpads > - Where does the installation script derive the list of "missing > firmware files"? I am guessing here that it detects an Intel controller that requires one of the binary blobs in

Net Install: Understanding the wifi drivers

2020-02-26 Thread John Kaufmann
ipt stop - why interrupt the initial installation - to ask for wifi firmware files, if they are not needed for the script? After all, plenty of other things will be added later. Why aren't those wifi driver files treated like any of the other components in the net install? - Where does the instal

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 07:09:08AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > Conclusion, to me, it looks like the mainline kernel doesn't yet have > RPi4 support, and when it does, would anyone want to go to the effort > to backport that to 4.19? I wouldn't be holding my breath for RPi4B > support in a Buster netinst i

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Tixy
On Tue, 2019-09-17 at 07:09 +0100, Tixy wrote: > Conclusion, to me, it looks like the mainline kernel doesn't yet have > RPi4 support, and when it does, would anyone want to go to the effort > to backport that to 4.19? Actually, I don't think the support for >1GB memory patches [2] meet the criter

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 20:31 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 16 September 2019 19:50:32 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 22:10:53) > > > > > On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > > >

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 September 2019 19:50:32 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 22:10:53) > > > On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > Please write in content, not

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 22:10:53) > On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > Please write in content, not only subject field. > > > > And please clarify what you are talking about -

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 16:10:53 -0400 Gene Heskett wrote: > > And please clarify what you are talking about - e.g. by pinking to > > the thing. > > pinking? Typo for "plinking"??? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: Is the buster 10.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 16 September 2019 12:22:23 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > Please write in content, not only subject field. > > And please clarify what you are talking about - e.g. by pinking to the > thing. pinking? > Concretely, I a

Re: Is the buster 1.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-09-16 17:56:38) > Cheers, Gene Heskett Please write in content, not only subject field. And please clarify what you are talking about - e.g. by pinking to the thing. Concretely, I am puzzled what you mean by "1.1" - Buster is release 10 of Debian. Do you perhaps mea

Is the buster 1.1 net install in armhf flavor ready for an rpi-4b?

2019-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-13 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > Keep me posted please. Assembled today and dd raspbian to the sd card. All worked fine. I am under pressure now, so I don't know when I can try the NFS root and debian. >From the experience with RPi2 it is much easier to do nfs when testing. But in general it is very nice p

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread deloptes
David wrote: > I didn't bother with the heatsinks that came with it. I just wanted a > fan and some ventilation instead of a sealed little plastic oven. Yes, a similar was ordered and arrived as well. I tend to plan all of this in my head and usually it works so well, that I do not have to run to

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Tue, 2019-09-10 at 07:18 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 23:06:27 Thomas D Dial wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 12:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: (unrelated material omitted) > > > $PITA problem, raspian insists the first, usr 1000 is > > > "pi". Is there a foolproof

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 September 2019 08:16:57 David wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 16:14, deloptes wrote: > > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power supply and > > cables, which arrived too. Excited to see how it performs. > > I have one of the official cases as well but after setting eye

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread David
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 16:14, deloptes wrote: > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power supply and cables, > which arrived too. Excited to see how it performs. I have one of the official cases as well but after setting eyes on it I never even bothered to try it, due to the thermal

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 12 September 2019 02:14:06 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > >> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages > >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ > > > > Potential timeline? > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-11 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: >> https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages >> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ > > Potential timeline? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett My RPI4 arrived as well - need to pick up also power supply and cables, which arrived too. Excited to see how it performs.

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 23:06:27 Thomas D Dial wrote: > On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 12:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 September 2019 11:50:12 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Sep

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 12:21 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 11:50:12 ghe wrote: > > > On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > >> On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >>> sudo dd

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Mon, 2019-09-09 at 14:24 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 13:58:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou > > > to do squawt as sudo root. BTDT. > >

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 14:24:50 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 13:58:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou > > > to do squawt as sudo root. BTDT. > >

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread David Wright
On Mon 09 Sep 2019 at 13:51:06 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 13:23:24 John Hasler wrote: > > Don't you have a serial port rigged up? > > No, and nothing to display it on either. > > > A pc, minicom, and a USB to serial adapter if the pc has no serial port. > > And a usb

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:58:03 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou > > to do squawt as sudo root. BTDT. > > If you have a serious complaint or question, you must provide de

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:23:55 ghe wrote: > On 9/9/19 10:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Is there a foolproof way to convert that to "gene", or am I stuck > > logging into it as "pi"? > > I tried that a long time ago, and had to reinstall, IIRC. What I do > now is create a new user 'ghe' and

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 01:47:30PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Tell that to pam. Even after editing sudoers, pam won't allow yoou to do > squawt as sudo root. BTDT. If you have a serious complaint or question, you must provide details. Your continued pattern of just ranting "it didn't work" for

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:23:24 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Don't you have a serial port rigged up? > > Gene writes: > > No, and nothing to display it on either. > > A pc, minicom, and a USB to serial adapter if the pc has no serial > port. And a usb cable long enough. That will call f

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 13:10:06 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 12:21:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > I'm building a RealtimePi buster-lite on the pi3 right now. Just one > > $PITA problem, raspian insists the first, usr 1000 is > > "pi". Is there a foolproof way to conver

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread ghe
On 9/9/19 10:21 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > Is there a foolproof way to convert that to "gene", or am I stuck > logging into it as "pi"? I tried that a long time ago, and had to reinstall, IIRC. What I do now is create a new user 'ghe' and just pretend pi doesn't exist. Maybe clear out pi's home

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Don't you have a serial port rigged up? Gene writes: > No, and nothing to display it on either. A pc, minicom, and a USB to serial adapter if the pc has no serial port. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Mon, Sep 09, 2019 at 12:21:45PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > I'm building a RealtimePi buster-lite on the pi3 right now. Just one > $PITA problem, raspian insists the first, usr 1000 is > "pi". Is there a foolproof way to convert that to "gene", or am I stuck > logging into it as "pi"? You

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 12:57:08 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > That was one of /my/ screwups, fixed to /dev/sdf later. Now rapbian > > does something but only a magician knows what as I can't get any > > video out of it. > > Don't you have a serial port rigged up? No, and nothing to d

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > That was one of /my/ screwups, fixed to /dev/sdf later. Now rapbian > does something but only a magician knows what as I can't get any video > out of it. Don't you have a serial port rigged up? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 11:50:12 ghe wrote: > On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdf1 > >>> > >>

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread ghe
On 9/9/19 8:26 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > >> On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >>> sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdf1 >>> >>> /dev/sdf1 is an unmounted 64GB PNY u-sd card. Original

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 09 September 2019 08:58:10 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdf1 > > > > /dev/sdf1 is an unmounted 64GB PNY u-sd card. Original format NTFS. > That was one of /my/ screwups,

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 03:04:40AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > sudo dd if=debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso bs=4096 of=/dev/sdf1 > > /dev/sdf1 is an unmounted 64GB PNY u-sd card. Original format NTFS. You wrote the installer image to a *partition* on the SD card instead of to the whole SD card? I

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread David Wright
On Sun 08 Sep 2019 at 13:26:16 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2019 12:49:14 Curt wrote: > > On 2019-09-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > >> > What does this do that the iso doesn't, and note it takes a > > >> > windows machine to follow those instructions. > > >> > > >> Eh? How do

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 13:46:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2019 11:34:20 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:35:51 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry > > > system. So my proposal abou

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 11:34:20 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:35:51 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Hi, > > > > i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry > > system. So my proposal about netboot might be hopeless according to > > the answers of David and

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 12:49:14 Curt wrote: > On 2019-09-08, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > What does this do that the iso doesn't, and note it takes a > >> > windows machine to follow those instructions. > >> > >> Eh? How do you work that out? > > > > I won't, theres always another way to skin

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 07:01:00PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > I've the hunch that the firmware also has to be on the top-level dir, > > but haven't checked yet. > > > > Note that this is all Rpi 3B+ > > yes kernel has to be there in the root of the partition Tha

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > AFAIK it also had to be the *first* partition on the medium. I don't know > whether the kernel has to be on that same partition (but that's the only > configuration I tested). > > I've the hunch that the firmware also has to be on the top-level dir, > but haven't checked

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-09-08, Gene Heskett wrote: >> > >> > What does this do that the iso doesn't, and note it takes a windows >> > machine to follow those instructions. >> >> Eh? How do you work that out? > > I won't, theres always another way to skin that cat. ;-) Time, if I have > it, will sort that out. H

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 10:48:22 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > And that contained the seeds of my boot problem, the ntfs cards need > > to have a fat32 re-formatting. NTFS/SDXC doesn't work. > > No idea how the 4b works but the older 2b needed vfat because of the > firmware. Might

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:35:51 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry > system. So my proposal about netboot might be hopeless according to > the answers of David and didier.gaumet. > > -

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 04:48:22PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > And that contained the seeds of my boot problem, the ntfs cards need to > > have a fat32 re-formatting. NTFS/SDXC doesn't work. > > No idea how the 4b works but the older 2b needed vfat because of the > firmware

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread deloptes
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > As said, Debian arm64 netinst ISOs offer boot entries for EFI. > Googling "raspberry rp4 efi" shows that the combination of Raspberry and > EFI is exotic. Thomas, the RPI had its own boot process - you can imaging booting mobile phone. Not sure what they did for the RPI4b

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > And that contained the seeds of my boot problem, the ntfs cards need to > have a fat32 re-formatting. NTFS/SDXC doesn't work. No idea how the 4b works but the older 2b needed vfat because of the firmware. Might be still the same. Your idea to create one smaller partition wit

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 08:32:30 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have also been thru your installer docs, without finding specific > > procedures for initializing the u-sd cards its being installed from. > > Did I miss that link in my searches?  Without that I feel like I'm > > pla

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 07:42:36 Michael Howard wrote: > On 08/09/2019 12:39, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 08 September 2019 03:59:01 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > >>> debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso > >> > >> SD card

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 06:12:08 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 19:51, David wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? > > > > I don't know about the Debian ARM images, but if > > they were relevant then I assume they would be

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread John Hasler
Sorry. I don't know why it went out like that. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > I have also been thru your installer docs, without finding specific > procedures for initializing the u-sd cards its being installed from. You dd the image directly to the raw device. What was previously on the card is irrelevant: it gets overwritten. I recently installed Armbian

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i now realize that Gene by "rp4" indicated some known Raspberry system. So my proposal about netboot might be hopeless according to the answers of David and didier.gaumet. -- But there is technical stuff left to discuss: I w

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > I have also been thru your installer docs, without finding specific > procedures for initializing the u-sd cards its being installed from. Did > I miss that link in my searches?  Without that I feel like I'm playing > pin the tale on the donkey, blindfolded. I think you shou

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 06:05:37 didier.gau...@gmail.com wrote: > Debian Buster is not yet ready for Raspberry Pi 4: > > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/ Potential timeline? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to b

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 05:51:43 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? > > I have attempted to find relevant info from the Debian project > for you. I found these two pages, which seem to be recently > updated by active developer

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 04:03:00 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > I have a bigger 4 amp supply  but haven't rigged it with output > > jumpers yet. > > But in the specs of the RPI4 it says it requires a 3A PWR supply. Thats not listed on the multi-language paper in the rpi4 bag. Not y

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Michael Howard
On 08/09/2019 12:39, Gene Heskett wrote: On Sunday 08 September 2019 03:59:01 Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso SD card seems to be the intended target for netboot images. E.g. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/s

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 03:59:01 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > > debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso > > SD card seems to be the intended target for netboot images. > E.g. > > http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-arm

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread didier . gaumet
Debian Buster is not yet ready for Raspberry Pi 4: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPiImages https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/installation/

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread David
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 19:51, David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? > I don't know about the Debian ARM images, but if > they were relevant then I assume they would be > mentioned at the links above. And here's a very recent discus

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread David
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] What did I do wrong [...] ? I have attempted to find relevant info from the Debian project for you. I found these two pages, which seem to be recently updated by active developers: [1] https://salsa.debian.org/raspi-team/image-specs [2] h

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > I have a bigger 4 amp supply  but haven't rigged it with output jumpers > yet. But in the specs of the RPI4 it says it requires a 3A PWR supply. However I think it is possible that you have another issue with the SD-CARD. It looks to me that now with RPI4 and the bootload

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > debian-10.0.0-armhf-netinst.iso > debian-10.0.0-arm64-netinst.iso SD card seems to be the intended target for netboot images. E.g. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/installer-arm64/current/images/netboot/SD-card-images/ Maybe worth a try, if you can get

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 02:18:38 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What did I do wrong in dd-ing > > the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? > > Please give us a link so that we can identify and test whatever > file you are

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-08 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 08 September 2019 02:18:38 David wrote: > On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What did I do wrong in dd-ing > > the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? > > Please give us a link so that we can identify and test whatever > file you are

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread David
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 at 06:59, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What did I do wrong in dd-ing > the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-sd card? Please give us a link so that we can identify and test whatever file you are calling "the net-install iso". Please show us exactly the "

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 20:09:44 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > That is what I am trying to boot from, a 64GB u-sd with its > > filestystem changed from NTFS to #6 (fat16) in fdisk.  May not have > > the mbr or gpt table properly formatted. Will try gparted next.  But > > its time

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > That is what I am trying to boot from, a 64GB u-sd with its filestystem > changed from NTFS to #6 (fat16) in fdisk.  May not have the mbr or gpt > table properly formatted. Will try gparted next.  But its time I put on > my chefs hat. Gotta feed us.  Not sure what yet, might

Re: attempted install of buster arm64 net-install on rp4 fails instantly

2019-09-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 07 September 2019 17:34:49 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > There is only a split second of activity of the green led, then it > > just sits there, no on screen msg of any kind.  What did I do wrong > > in dd-ing the net-install iso to the new 64GB u-s

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