Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2019 19:06:55 Richard Hobson wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > All video cards should respond to the vesa driver. Trolling > > thru /var/log/Xorg.0.log with 'less' will answer that question. But > > vesa has I believe a max resolution of 800x600 so while it will work > > it will

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Richard Hector wrote: Oh - I don't think you mentioned the USB device was actually WiFi. As you were :-) The clue is in the subject Richard Do pay attention. :-) Richard --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Gene Heskett wrote: All video cards should respond to the vesa driver. Trolling thru /var/log/Xorg.0.log with 'less' will answer that question. But vesa has I believe a max resolution of 800x600 so while it will work it will not work to the cards or monitors real capabilities. There 2 schools

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/07/19 9:42 AM, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 18 Jul 2019 at 18:08:14 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: >> On 18/07/19 2:44 AM, Richard Hobson wrote: >>> Thanks for the suggestion Roger. >>> >>> I'm not sure how to search the dsmesg output so I unplugged the device >>> and replugged it so that the

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread David Wright
On Thu 18 Jul 2019 at 18:08:14 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote: > On 18/07/19 2:44 AM, Richard Hobson wrote: > > Thanks for the suggestion Roger. > > > > I'm not sure how to search the dsmesg output so I unplugged the device > > and replugged it so that the relevant message appeared at the bottom of

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2019 13:31:23 Richard Hobson wrote: > FIXED. su - worked a treat and I'm now looking at the Debian home page > on the Linux box. > > I got some odd messages from dpkg about possible missing firmware in > > /lib/firmware/nvidia/gp108/ mostly for "module nouveau". > > so pres

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/07/19 4:02 AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > Richard Hobson wrote: >> Richard Hector wrote: >>> Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can you >>> use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and be able >>> to copy/paste things into email. >> >> The router is o

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/07/19 3:22 AM, deloptes wrote: > Richard Hobson wrote: > >> The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife >> in a power wheelchair. I think a twisted pair cable would be in ribbons >> within a few passes. > > Modern PCs do not need twisted pair AFAIK Meaning you ca

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hector
On 19/07/19 2:12 AM, Richard Hobson wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: >> Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can you >> use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and be able >> to copy/paste things into email. > > The router is on the other side of a corr

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
FIXED. su - worked a treat and I'm now looking at the Debian home page on the Linux box. I got some odd messages from dpkg about possible missing firmware in /lib/firmware/nvidia/gp108/ mostly for "module nouveau". so presumably my graphics card. I've not noticed any problems with the gra

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 18:01:58 +0100 Richard Hobson wrote: Hello Richard, >I don't think "She who must be obeyed" would be happy with a cable >protector, cables strung across the ceiling or anything else in our I hear you, brother. :-) My missus is the same. Thankfully, when the property wa

Re: Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Greg Wooledge wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes Thanks Greg, RTFM always works. R --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
I don't think "She who must be obeyed" would be happy with a cable protector, cables strung across the ceiling or anything else in our entrance hall, both for practical and aesthetic reasons. I think we're getting a bit off topic, can we just accept that a cat5 connection isn't possible unless

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2019 12:28:18 Richard Hobson wrote: > Curt wrote: > > Of course, if you have no network connectivity on the machine, this > > might prove to be a difficult maneuver. However, you could download > > the package from another machine with connectivity and transfer it > > via sneak

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2019 11:54:24 Richard Hobson wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Chuckle. I have about 50 feet of cat-5, the rounded blue stuff, > > strung in a chinese handcuff on each end of a suspended run from a > > corner of my back porch roof to the apex of a 12x16 shed up on the > > hill w

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-18, Richard Hobson wrote: > Curt wrote: >> Of course, if you have no network connectivity on the machine, this >> might prove to be a difficult maneuver. However, you could download the >> package from another machine with connectivity and transfer it via sneakernet >> to the machine wi

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 05:28:18PM +0100, Richard Hobson wrote: > warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable > warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable > error: 2 expected programs not found in PATH or not executable https://wiki.debian.org/NewInBuster#Changes

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Curt wrote: Of course, if you have no network connectivity on the machine, this might prove to be a difficult maneuver. However, you could download the package from another machine with connectivity and transfer it via sneakernet to the machine with the realtek wifi dongle, where it might be inst

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:12:50 +0100 Richard Hobson wrote: Hello Richard, >The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife >in a power wheelchair. I think a twisted pair cable would be in ribbons >within a few passes. Another suggestion; Screw a couple of cup hooks into

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Gene Heskett wrote: Chuckle. I have about 50 feet of cat-5, the rounded blue stuff, strung in a chinese handcuff on each end of a suspended run from a corner of my back porch roof to the apex of a 12x16 shed up on the hill which has some of my cnc machinery in it, been there since about 2002, a

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Richard Hobson wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > > Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can you > > use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and be able > > to copy/paste things into email. > > The router is on the other side of a corridor which is use

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Roger Price
On Thu, 18 Jul 2019, Richard Hobson wrote: The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife in a power wheelchair. I use a cable cover for this. Google for "floor cable cover". Roger

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 18 July 2019 10:12:50 Richard Hobson wrote: > Richard Hector wrote: > > Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can > > you use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and > > be able to copy/paste things into email. > > The router is on the othe

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread deloptes
Richard Hobson wrote: > The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife > in a power wheelchair. I think a twisted pair cable would be in ribbons > within a few passes. Modern PCs do not need twisted pair AFAIK

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Richard Hector wrote: Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can you use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and be able to copy/paste things into email. The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife in a power wheelchair. I

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-18 Thread Richard Hobson
Richard Hector wrote: Richard, you haven't said why you don't want to use the card - can you use it temporarily? That might at least let you get on line, and be able to copy/paste things into email. The router is on the other side of a corridor which is used by my wife in a power wheelchair.

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 18/07/19 7:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 17 July 2019 12:11:35 Richard Hobson wrote: > >> ip r - gives no output >> > r=route, should be at least one address. Not if there's no manual configuration and no working connections. >> ip a - too much output to transpose accurately but

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hector
On 18/07/19 2:44 AM, Richard Hobson wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion Roger. > > I'm not sure how to search the dsmesg output so I unplugged the device > and replugged it so that the relevant message appeared at the bottom of > the output. (I know, RTFM!). > > The dongle is being correctly ident

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 July 2019 12:11:35 Richard Hobson wrote: > ip r - gives no output > r=route, should be at least one address. > ip a - too much output to transpose accurately but seems to find > ethernet card (from MAC address given) and effectively tells me it > isn't connected (which it isn't).

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hobson
If only but not easy without a network connection :-( Looks like a delve in the repository using the Windoze laptop and a transfer on a memory stick. R On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Roger Price wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Richard Hobson wrote: usb 1-2: firmware failed to load rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin

Re: Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hobson
ip r - gives no output ip a - too much output to transpose accurately but seems to find ethernet card (from MAC address given) and effectively tells me it isn't connected (which it isn't). Any specific information you'd like me to convey? R --- This email has been checked for viruses by

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Curt
On 2019-07-17, Richard Hobson wrote: > > usb 1-2: Direct firmware load for rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin failed with error -2 > > usb 1-2: r8712u: Firmware request failed. > > Does this suggest the appropriate firmware isn't available locally? I think so. > If so some help on how I obtain it would be ver

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Richard Hobson wrote: usb 1-2: firmware failed to load rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin (-2) Does this suggest the appropriate firmware isn't available locally? Could well be. Perhaps you need package firmware-realtek. I take the easy route and use synaptic to search for and load pac

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hobson
Thanks for the suggestion Roger. I'm not sure how to search the dsmesg output so I unplugged the device and replugged it so that the relevant message appeared at the bottom of the output. (I know, RTFM!). The dongle is being correctly identified as far as I can see, says the manufacturer is

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:40:57 +0100 (GMT Summer Time) Richard Hobson wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed Debian 10 and have no network connectivity. The PC has > an Ethernet card but I use a USB dongle (StarTech) for practical reasons. > I've previously used this in an installation of OpenSuse

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 17 July 2019 08:40:57 Richard Hobson wrote: > Hi, > > I've just installed Debian 10 and have no network connectivity. The PC > has an Ethernet card but I use a USB dongle (StarTech) for practical > reasons. I've previously used this in an installation of OpenSuse on > the same machine

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Roger Price
On Wed, 17 Jul 2019, Richard Hobson wrote: ...I use a USB dongle (StarTech) for practical reasons. I've previously used this in an installation of OpenSuse on the same machine and although it wasn't detected at install time it was on first boot and I was able to use the graphical configuration

Re: USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Owlett
On 07/17/2019 07:40 AM, Richard Hobson wrote: Hi, I've just installed Debian 10 and have no network connectivity. The PC has an Ethernet card but I use a USB dongle (StarTech) for practical reasons. I've previously used this in an installation of OpenSuse on the same machine and although it w

USB wireless dongle not detected

2019-07-17 Thread Richard Hobson
Hi, I've just installed Debian 10 and have no network connectivity. The PC has an Ethernet card but I use a USB dongle (StarTech) for practical reasons. I've previously used this in an installation of OpenSuse on the same machine and although it wasn't detected at install time it was on first