Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-28 Thread Xiyue Deng
Timothy M Butterworth writes: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I >> > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upg

Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-28 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 05:52:40PM CEST, Timothy M Butterworth said: > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > > > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I > > > did a upgrade from

Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-28 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 10:16 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I > > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The > upgrade > > went through but after I

Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-28 Thread Dan Ritter
Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I > did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The upgrade > went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries in KDE's > application launcher

Re: Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-27 Thread David
On Tue, 27 May 2025 at 23:37, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. > I did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The > upgrade went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries i

Alpha testing Debian Trixie

2025-05-27 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
Hello, Does anyone know if there is a forum or email group for testing Trixie. I did a upgrade from Debian 12 to 13 using apt-get dist-upgrade. The upgrade went through but after I rebooted I did not have any entries in KDE's application launcher. I created a new account of the device a

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-25 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > And for those who are wondering, this is going on in trixie. [...] > The quick fix in sources.list for debian is to add signed-by into > existing lines after deb or deb-src: > > deb \ > [

Testing posting to the list

2025-02-06 Thread Russell S.
I'm trying to make it so that I can seemlessly post to the list from the group view in Gnus as if I was posting to the group. -- this is my clever sig.

Re: Testing posting to list from Gnus

2025-02-06 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
the first few lines of your article > Authentication-Results: name/6A6385FD6A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) > header.from=pm.me > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: "Russell S." > Newsgroups: linux.debian.user > Subject: Testing posting to list fr

Re: Testing posting to the list from Gnus

2025-02-06 Thread Moderation Robot
/linux-faq Virtually your, The Moderation Robot. --- Follows the first few lines of your article Authentication-Results: name/4851A5FD6A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=pm.me To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: "Russell S." Newsgroups: linux.debian.u

Re: Testing posting to list from Gnus

2025-02-06 Thread Moderation Robot
/linux-faq Virtually your, The Moderation Robot. --- Follows the first few lines of your article Authentication-Results: name/6A6385FD6A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=pm.me To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: "Russell S." Newsgroups: linux.debian.u

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:53:49AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each >sources.list entry. That you'll prob

Re: Testing email to the group

2025-02-06 Thread Moderation Robot
/linux-faq Virtually your, The Moderation Robot. --- Follows the first few lines of your article Authentication-Results: name/11C725FD6A; dmarc=fail (p=quarantine dis=none) header.from=pm.me To: debian-user@lists.debian.org From: "Russell S." Newsgroups: linux.debian.u

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Also, there is https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList . Regards, Jörg.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Another option would be to retain all comments, and let the user > > manually convert commented out entries. Simple, easy to do, and only a > > little obnoxious for the user. > > > > And for those who are

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:53:49 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094784 -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:30:02 + Joe wrote: > Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-beta.list > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list > -

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread songbird
g that has a chance of helping people now. the only sensible short term easy fix would be to warn that comments are discarded and that a backup copy is kept if you need to get that information back. i'm out of time and energy for the next several days so this was a quick warning for those who use testing. ... songbird

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 10:42:27 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: > >...except that, per the rest of the discussion in that bug, it almost > >certainly won't be able to predict which signer to apply for each > >sources.list entry. That you'll probably have to add on your own. > > It even tells you that!

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:22:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed to be an 'apt modernize-sources' sub-command, w

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:09:37 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + > Joe wrote: > > > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > > /etc/sources.list.d containing: > > Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better > yet, a s

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread The Wanderer
gt; yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people > scrambling to convert at the last minute. I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed t

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:09:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to convert at the last minute. Yes, current version prompts on what to do.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > /etc/sources.list.d containing: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to co

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Joe
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:54:28 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > >> Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be > >> addressed since from what I understand you are basically ask

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Purgert
On Feb 06, 2025, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for other

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted in

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Dan Ritter
Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > >

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > inactive deb822 files, which seems l

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: > when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing > a test run to see what changes are made or not making the > changes at that time. > > when going through this process the comments in > sources.list were discarded. I thin

testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

2025-02-05 Thread songbird
when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing a test run to see what changes are made or not making the changes at that time. when going through this process the comments in sources.list were discarded. i don't know about other people or what they put in sources.list, but i normall

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread songbird
Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM GMT, songbird wrote: >> Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... >> update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format >> already installed by openjdk-9 > > What do you have in /usr/share/binfmts ?

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-30 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed Jan 29, 2025 at 10:52 AM GMT, songbird wrote: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 What do you have in /usr/share/binfmts ? -- Please do not CC me for listmail

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
Cindy Sue Causey wrote: ... > In my case these days, I have two things I would do to take a poke at > this in hopes something obvious presents itself: > > $ apt-cache policy openjdk-9 > > I might even try the much busier "apt-cache policy openjdk-*" to see if > anything else is lingering. My setup

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Max Nikulin
On 29/01/2025 17:52, songbird wrote: update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 Likely it is related to running of .jar files without explicit java command. In a similar way wine may install a handler for .exe files in addition to

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:50:41 +0100 Erwan David wrote: Hello Erwan, >I see in https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hplip that hplip has been >removed from testing... That's bad news. It's been gone for ages. There *is* a solution mentioned on the bug tracker, but it assumes knowle

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
l. PS Second afterthought: If openjdk-9 is no longer needed and is, in fact, being reported as a manual install by apt-mark, "apt-mark auto openjdk-9" MIGHT help depending on how the system is recognizing that old package. If this was my glitch, I'd try that command just to see

Re: debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 05:52:34 -0500 songbird wrote: Hello songbird, >warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already >installed by openjdk-9 I've seen similar messages. Certainly about openjdk, maybe others, I can't recall. As everything seems to be working as expected, I don

debian testing, confusing message during upgrade openjdk-17-jre-headless

2025-01-29 Thread songbird
during this morning's update run: Setting up openjdk-17-jre-headless:amd64 (17.0.14+7-1) ... update-binfmts: warning: current package is openjdk-21, but binary format already installed by openjdk-9 ? what does this mean to you? songbird

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Erwan David
, of course; The freeze doesn't even start until March, and there's even more time until Hard Freeze in May. Plus, of course, Full Freeze is currently TBA. I see in https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/hplip that hplip has been removed from testing... That's bad news.

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:46:01 +0100 Erwan David wrote: Hello Erwan, >Another possibility is that hplip can work with python 3.13 but it was AIUI, that's what people want; Hplip depending on 3.12 is causing the issues. From the bug report at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=10

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/01/2025 à 15:16, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Tue Jan 28, 2025 at 1:24 PM GMT, Erwan David wrote: Current hplip package in testing and sid requires python 3.12 Several packages in testing now require 3.13 (eg libreoffice and borg). Since there is no newer package in sid, and Trixie

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/01/2025 à 15:16, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : On Tue Jan 28, 2025 at 1:24 PM GMT, Erwan David wrote: Current hplip package in testing and sid requires python 3.12 Several packages in testing now require 3.13 (eg libreoffice and borg). Since there is no newer package in sid, and Trixie

Re: Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Jan 28, 2025 at 1:24 PM GMT, Erwan David wrote: Current hplip package in testing and sid requires python 3.12 Several packages in testing now require 3.13 (eg libreoffice and borg). Since there is no newer package in sid, and Trixie freeze approaches, I worry on the usability of hplip

Non packaged hplip on trixie (testing) ?

2025-01-28 Thread Erwan David
Current hplip package in testing and sid requires python 3.12 Several packages in testing now require 3.13 (eg libreoffice and borg). Since there is no newer package in sid, and Trixie freeze approaches, I worry on the usability of hplip in Trixie. Did someone try the non packaged verion on

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-02 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 14:21:44 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:45:26 + > "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > > > ermanno morelli wrote: > > Thank you. I've forwarded

Re: SID KDE Plasma 6.2 - KDE Testing VMs with either QXL or Virtio drivers work when running on PCs using either Nvidia and AMD proprietary drivers.

2024-12-02 Thread George at Clug
sh reporter popups. > > > > > > > "A black screen with only a visible mouse pointer" is one of the issues I > > have seen on computers with an Nvidia GPU, hence to me it was likely you > > had an Nvidia GPU, since you do not, then I suspect that the issue is &g

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 20:45:26 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > > ermanno morelli wrote: Thank you. I've forwarded this to the Debian Boot list, which I believe is the proper place for this.

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 12:05:24PM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 > ermanno morelli wrote: > > > Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. > > Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è pos

Re: ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 18:55:48 +0100 ermanno morelli wrote: > Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. > Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è possibile > questa dimenticanza, visto che è un componente importante.Spero > ris

ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst.

2024-12-01 Thread ermanno morelli
Buongiorno.c'è un problema con ISO debian-testing-amd64-netinst. Nonfinisce l'installazione poiche manca IL KERNEL. come è possibile questa dimenticanza, visto che è un componente importante.Spero risolvete questo problema. GRAZIE

Re: Bump: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-17 Thread Farblos
On 2024-11-15 22:19, Farblos wrote: > any comment from your side on below mail or a general pointer on > "the future of Debian and utmp"? Ok, my bad. I have been focusing on/searching in debian-user, but debian-devel would have been the more appropriate place. If anybody else comes across this

Bump: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-15 Thread Farblos
Hi Luca, everybody, any comment from your side on below mail or a general pointer on "the future of Debian and utmp"? Thanks Jens On 2024-11-06 21:18, Jens Schmidt wrote: > [I hope this is the right way to address this question - apologies > if not or if I have overlooked an existing discussio

Re: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-07 Thread Jens Schmidt
> I am guessing from the version number that this is on trixie/sid. On Correct, thanks for guessing. > November 4th, systemd 256.7-3 came through. Have you tested whether > that fixed the issue? Nothing has changed with that version (note the "-UTMP"): , | [~]$ systemctl --version | systemd

Re: systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-06 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 6 Nov 2024 21:18:33 +0100 Jens Schmidt wrote: > [I hope this is the right way to address this question - apologies > if not or if I have overlooked an existing discussion ...] > > systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian disabled UTMP support (from the > Debian changelog): I am guessing from t

systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian testing disabled UTMP support

2024-11-06 Thread Jens Schmidt
[I hope this is the right way to address this question - apologies if not or if I have overlooked an existing discussion ...] systemd version 256.7-2 on Debian disabled UTMP support (from the Debian changelog): , | [ Luca Boccassi ] | * systemd-boot: depend on systemd for kernel-install (Clos

Re: How to report a bug on nouveau/testing

2024-10-13 Thread riveravaldez
El viernes, 11 de octubre de 2024, Quentin Aymard escribió: > Hi, > > Since a few day I am unable to start any application using > electron/chromium on my laptop. I am using Debian Testing, kernel > 6.10.11-amd64. So far, I've tried quite a variety of apps : > zulip-desk

How to report a bug on nouveau/testing

2024-10-11 Thread Quentin Aymard
Hi, Since a few day I am unable to start any application using electron/chromium on my laptop. I am using Debian Testing, kernel 6.10.11-amd64. So far, I've tried quite a variety of apps : zulip-desktop, signal-desktop, VS Code / Codium, Biwarden Directory Connector, discord, etc, all are fa

Re: Testing

2024-09-30 Thread Mike Waters
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 10:46 AM Joe wrote: > > > Is that as good as mutt for viewing this list, ? > > It's been fine for the mailing lists, I haven't needed to use any > archives. I do use mutt on my server as that doesn't have graphics, but > not very often. As far as email goes, I use a local SM

Re: Testing

2024-09-30 Thread Mike Waters
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 3:21 AM Joe wrote: > > I use Claws-Mail and leave the HTML module turned off, so I certainly > can see it. Is that as good as mutt for viewing this list, especially archived posts? I use a phone for email only if I'm away from home. I can > see it in K9 on a Samsung phon

Re: Testing

2024-09-29 Thread Mike Waters
; For me, the above says "𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 > 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘦". > > I am using gmail, but in chromium on a debian desktop. > > Does anyone else see that message? > > >> On September 28,

Re: Testing

2024-09-29 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 08:52:44AM +0200, Roger Price wrote: > On Sat, 28 Sep 2024, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > > ⓘ 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘦 > > I use alpine 2.24 on Debian 11 which usually shows only the text of a > message. This is the first time I have seen

Re: Testing

2024-09-29 Thread Roger Price
hange to a message, so I looked at the source. Since the post contained nothing but HTML, and since the subject is "Testing", I ran it through the W3C validator at https://validator.w3.org/ : I attach a shortened summary of the results. Not bad for a 4 line message. What tool did y

Ten Weird Things You Shouldn't Do [was: Testing]

2024-09-28 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 03:46:34PM -0500, Mike Waters wrote: > Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Don't do those things - use gmail. Google ain't your friend. Nor mine. - hijack a thread (if you are too lazy to enter the mailing list, at least delete

Re: Testing

2024-09-28 Thread Peter Ehlert
ⓘ 𝘠𝘰𝘶 𝘤𝘢𝘯'𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘤𝘰𝘮𝘮𝘦𝘯𝘵 𝘣𝘦𝘤𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘢𝘳𝘦 𝘶𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘊𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘭𝘦 On September 28, 2024 1:47:23 PM Mike Waters wrote: Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Pardon my intrusion. :-)

Testing

2024-09-28 Thread Mike Waters
Testing with Gmail to see if I absolutely need to install mutt. Pardon my intrusion. :-)

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-28 Thread James Bielefeldt
Thanks for the suggestion, but it times out no matter what I do. Its a very old testing install that follows testing. Its likely fubar because of the move from qt5 to qt6. I will just have to rebuild the install, and its not hard if I save the config files. Its just finding the time now to do

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 7:33 PM James Bielefeldt wrote: > > Looks like dependency hell is the problem. There are over 800 packages > being held back from testing. Its likely some dependency of pcmanfm-qt > was upgraded but there are others blocking pcmanfm-qt from upgrading. &

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread James Bielefeldt
Looks like dependency hell is the problem. There are over 800 packages being held back from testing. Its likely some dependency of pcmanfm-qt was upgraded but there are others blocking pcmanfm-qt from upgrading. Way to many upgrades to do by hand and trying in synaptic removes a ton of

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread eben
On 9/26/24 13:23, James Bielefeldt wrote: Objects in the panel are the right color, yellow icons which are yellow. Conky is still yellow text. It's not your monitor acting up. The desktop and icons in pcmanfm-qt are blue when they should be yellow. Since pcmanfm-qt handles the desktop, its at

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread James Bielefeldt
Forgot to add, the other colors on the desktop and pcmanfm-qt are off. They are right on the panel. All colors are correct when logging in (lightdm). Jim

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread James Bielefeldt
Objects in the panel are the right color, yellow icons which are yellow. Conky is still yellow text. The desktop and icons in pcmanfm-qt are blue when they should be yellow. Since pcmanfm-qt handles the desktop, its at least consist. When copying the blue icons to another install they are yello

Re: Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread eben
On 9/26/24 10:26, James Bielefeldt wrote: Hi I am not sure what package is causing it. But after an upgrade yesterday the yellow flowers in my wallpaper and the yellow icons on the desktop and in pcmanfm-qt appear blue. As well as some buttons on popups like shutdown confirm. Icons in the panel

Color shifted desktop in testing with LXQt desktop

2024-09-26 Thread James Bielefeldt
Hi I am not sure what package is causing it. But after an upgrade yesterday the yellow flowers in my wallpaper and the yellow icons on the desktop and in pcmanfm-qt appear blue. As well as some buttons on popups like shutdown confirm. Icons in the panel and some menu selections are still yell

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 28 Jul 2024 22:39:47 +0200 john doe wrote: > I guess, this would be more for the debian-boot mailing list, as > apparently this is a regression. Thank you. I have re-sent. (rather than resented :-) > > In my case, I use the Qemu's built-in tftp server. Thanks for the suggestion. I hav

Re: Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread john doe
On 7/28/24 21:55, Charles Curley wrote: I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick. As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the USB stick shows up at sda. When I go to

Testing CD preseed oops

2024-07-28 Thread Charles Curley
I have the latest testing netinst (20240722-03:17), and would like to install it on a virtual machine. I have a preseed file on a USB stick. As this is a virtual machine, the virtual hard drive is at vda, and the USB stick shows up at sda. When I go to load the debconf file, the installer doesn&#

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-20 Thread songbird
David Wright wrote: > On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > >> "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is >> more useful. > > FWIW I define dfree as: > > df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x > tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x

Re: testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-18 Thread David Wright
On Tue 18 Jun 2024 at 19:29:31 (-0400), songbird wrote: > "df -x tmpfs" does the magic and gives me the better view that is > more useful. FWIW I define dfree as: df --output=source,ipcent,fstype,size,used,avail,pcent,target -B 100 -x tmpfs -x devtmpfs -x fuse.portal | sed -E 's/([^ ] )/\

testing, various tmpfs /run directories, df -x tmpfs

2024-06-18 Thread songbird
recent bloat of tmpfs /run/{blah} looks horrible whenever i check the status of my file systems. it would be much better if those all went under just one tmpfs. luckily there is an option for that so i'll alias df with that option included. :) = Filesystem Size Used Avail Use

Re: [solved] testing MATE upgrade broke panels, downgrading fixed it

2024-06-06 Thread songbird
songbird wrote: > > as an FYI, last night this wasn't a good idea: > > The following packages will be upgraded: >gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0 (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) >libmate-panel-applet-4-1 (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) >libmate-panel-applet-dev (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) >mate-panel

testing MATE upgrade broke panels, downgrading fixed it

2024-05-26 Thread songbird
as an FYI, last night this wasn't a good idea: The following packages will be upgraded: gir1.2-matepanelapplet-4.0 (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) libmate-panel-applet-4-1 (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) libmate-panel-applet-dev (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3) mate-panel (1.27.1-2+b2 => 1.27.1-3)

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315 [finished]

2024-05-13 Thread Paul Scott
oot the lines of interest, you have to run the more command again. This weeks version of the testing net install worked completely. Sending this from Thunderbird on the new system. Thank you everyone who helped, Paul Cheers, David.

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 12 May 2024 at 21:10:16 (-0700), Paul Scott wrote: > On 5/9/2024 1:59 PM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:32:32 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > > > > > The error I'm getting is during "Install base system."  The only way > > > I knew to save the log was with a camera. Even though

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-12 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/9/2024 1:59 PM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:32:32 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: The error I'm getting is during "Install base system."  The only way I knew to save the log was with a camera. Even though I resized the image this list apparently didn't allow the attachment. How

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-09 Thread Charles Curley
On Thu, 9 May 2024 09:32:32 -0700 Paul Scott wrote: > The error I'm getting is during "Install base system."  The only way > I knew to save the log was with a camera. Even though I resized the > image this list apparently didn't allow the attachment. How else can > I save the log during install?

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-09 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/2/2024 11:31 PM, Sirius wrote: I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions, Check the PCI ids of your Ethernet controller. Download the kernel image you are considering, check if any of its modules matches these ids. n I may need to do that.  Thank you, In the mean time, an install se

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/05/2024 12:16, Paul Scott wrote: I don't have linux on the machine for which I want the information.  I now have the driver name from Windows/Settings. Booting a live image may help to evaluate if hardware is supported and to get lspci output. Even when windows is booted, it should be

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-04 Thread Max Nikulin
On 04/05/2024 13:52, Paul Scott wrote: On 5/3/2024 11:25 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: It may happen that F4 is not F4 unless you press and hold Fn first. It is default on some laptops and may be changed in firmware setup. Inst all docs say Left Alt F4 but no combination of other keys with F4 worked

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-03 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/3/2024 11:25 PM, Max Nikulin wrote: On 03/05/2024 13:27, Paul Scott wrote: In the mean time, an install seemed to be working but gave an failure error which said it would be in the log and visible on virtual terminal 4, I didn't know how to get to a virtual in the installer.  Various co

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-03 Thread Max Nikulin
On 03/05/2024 13:27, Paul Scott wrote: In the mean time, an install seemed to be working but gave an failure error which said it would be in the log and visible on virtual terminal 4, I didn't know how to get to a virtual in the installer.  Various combinations with F4 didn't seem to work. It

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-03 Thread David
to read the whole thing. Your specific question is covered in a couple of places: https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch06s01.en.html (section 6.1 paragraph 10) https://www.debian.org/releases/bookworm/amd64/ch06s03.en.html#di-miscellaneous (section 6.3.9.2) Also, this is a bad t

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 03 May 2024 12:11:22 +0100 "mick.crane" wrote: Hello mick.crane, >Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see >them" Quite a few here, too. Although not as many as you had; 46 packages removed 46 packages installed (t64 versions of the packages removed) 309

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread songbird
mick.crane wrote: ... > Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see > them" that was about where i was at as i'd been holding firefox from unstable due to it wanting to remove a lot of Mate packages without replacing them. however last night, like you, i first upd

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread mick.crane
(it takes me a bit to download since i'm not on a super-fast connection). with how things have gone so far i don't expect any hiccups. i Debian and testing aka trixie. :) thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this done. Eeeek "725 packages can be upgraded. R

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-03 Thread Erwan David
0 packages (it takes me a bit to download since i'm not on a super-fast connection). with how things have gone so far i don't expect any hiccups. i Debian and testing aka trixie. :) thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this done. songbird Doing regular upg

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-02 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 3 May 2024 01:11:31 -0400 songbird wrote: Hello songbird, > mainly i wanted to make sure that anything removed was >being replaced and that my desktop would still be usable >and that seems to have happened. This has been my experience, too. I will also add my thanks to the many, many,

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-02 Thread Sirius
In days of yore (Thu, 02 May 2024), Paul Scott thus quoth: > > On 5/1/2024 10:44 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > > Paul Scott (12024-05-01): > > > I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading > > > (jigdo) now. > > Waste of time. The drivers are either in the kernel image or

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

2024-05-02 Thread Paul Scott
On 5/1/2024 10:44 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Paul Scott (12024-05-01): I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading (jigdo) now. Waste of time. The drivers are either in the kernel image or in individual packages, you can install them on top of what you have. I would

Re: time_t transitions in testing

2024-05-02 Thread songbird
songbird wrote: ... > thanks to all in the Debian community who have gotten this > done. all looks ok. :) songbird

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