On Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 11:42:00AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:14:32PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > If you want a little more control over the details, with a usable
> > > text-based user interface, use 'apt
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:14:32PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> * [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > If you want a little more control over the details, with a usable
> > text-based user interface, use 'aptitude'.
> > after it's started in a text console (very useful if your X is br
cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In reading online it seems that the standard practice to apply
> security patches would be to run 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get
> upgrade'. I am curious if this really is the best way and if so, how
> often should it be done?
i. Install apt-listbugs
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 03:28:36PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> * Andrei Popescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:36:20AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> >
> > Scenario1: You install stable (now sarge) and the entry in your sources.list
> > is 'stable'. When etch will be released the
* Andrei Popescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:36:20AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
>
> Scenario1: You install stable (now sarge) and the entry in your sources.list
> is 'stable'. When etch will be released the next dist-upgrade will upgrade
> your whole system to etch *without
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> If you want a little more control over the details, with a usable
> text-based user interface, use 'aptitude'.
> after it's started in a text console (very useful if your X is broken)
> the command 'u' updates its package lists, 'U' then does the
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:36:20AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
>
> One thing that I am now curious about is the setup of sources.list and
> the release of the next stable. For instance, my sources.list was
> initially setup with entries for 'etch' such as "deb
> http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/mirrors/debian/
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:19:16AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 01:29:43PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> Unfortulately, aptitude doesn't know if you explicitly requested a
> package using apt-get, so you will
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 10:36:14 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Isn't there a plugin or something for aptitude that can tell you about
> > extant bugs in packages that it's going to update for you? I seem to
> > reme
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:49:23AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Isn't there a plugin or something for aptitude that can tell you about
> extant bugs in packages that it's going to update for you? I seem to
> remember hearing about it, not having time to install it, and now wishin
> I ha
sort which popped up in the notification area
> > announcing available updates. How reliable is this tool, and can it
> > be used from outside of Gnome?
> >
> > Just trying to get a grip on system maintenance and hoping to hear
> > some ideas from those here. Than
cothrige wrote:
> Very cool. Good to know about that. But, I found that my system
> doesn't have any idea about anything like apt-listbugs. I followed
> the link in the article and found that there were packages listed for
> stable and unstable. How does one normally proceed from there? Will
>
* Steve Kemp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:36:20AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
>
> > I am not familiar with apt-listbugs and apt-changes. What are those?
>
>http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/44
>
>They show you outstanding bugs/changes which will be app
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:36:20AM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> I am not familiar with apt-listbugs and apt-changes. What are those?
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/44
They show you outstanding bugs/changes which will be applied when
you upgrade.
> One thing that I am now cu
* Kevin Mark ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
Hello Kevin,
> the best option if you want stability and (little or) no breakage is to
> run 'stable'. This is what Debian releases. Although there is now
> security support for testing also.
I had actually intended initially to install Stabl
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:30:05 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/15/06 21:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:47:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >> Personally, I always use aptitude so I can see what it wants to do
> >> before it does it.
> >>
>
ool, and can it
> be used from outside of Gnome?
>
> Just trying to get a grip on system maintenance and hoping to hear
> some ideas from those here. Thanks in advance,
>
Hi Patrick,
the best option if you want stability and (little or) no breakage is to
run 'stable'.
On 10/15/06 21:03, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:47:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Personally, I always use aptitude so I can see what it wants to do
before it does it.
As do I. But personally, I'd rather that the 200MB X update and OOo
update be downloaded at 3
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 09:47:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Personally, I always use aptitude so I can see what it wants to do
> before it does it.
>
As do I. But personally, I'd rather that the 200MB X update and OOo
update be downloaded at 3 AM, when I am (hopefully asleep). That is
Personally, I always use aptitude so I can see what it wants to do
before it does it.
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 03:16:47PM -0700, P. Johnson wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> > I like it because you can configure it to update the package list and do
> > nothing, to update the package list and download any pending updates but
> > not install them, or to update, download and insta
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I like it because you can configure it to update the package list and do
> nothing, to update the package list and download any pending updates but
> not install them, or to update, download and install all without
> intervention.
I would avoid updating, downloading an
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Moving this back on list so every gets the benefit.
>
Very sorry. I hit the r instead of L. I tend to do that when I am
not thinking, and that is too often.
> With Etch there will be more updates. I also recommend against having
> them automat
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On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:40:31PM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote:
> > * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > I like it because you can configure it to update the package list
> and do
> > > nothing, to update the package list and downl
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 04:40:31PM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote:
>
> Would you really want to run something like cron-apt to keep your system
> up to date? Is that generally what people do? Just run a big apt-get
> update, apt-get upgrade? I'd just think that could have negative
> consequences (
> * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > I like it because you can configure it to update the package list
and do
> > nothing, to update the package list and download any pending
updates but
> > not install them, or to update, download and install all without
> > intervention.
Moving this back on list so every gets the benefit.
On Sun, Oct 15, 2006 at 02:38:21PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> * Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > I like it because you can configure it to update the package list and do
> > nothing, to update the package list and download any
ool, and can it
> be used from outside of Gnome?
>
> Just trying to get a grip on system maintenance and hoping to hear
> some ideas from those here. Thanks in advance,
>
I personally like cron-apt. If your system is online all the time it is
great. Even if it is not, you can set
t Gnome when I
first installed. But, before doing that, I noticed that there was
monitor of some sort which popped up in the notification area
announcing available updates. How reliable is this tool, and can it
be used from outside of Gnome?
Just trying to get a grip on system maintenance and
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