On 5/21/2013 2:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2013-05-21 04:03 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>> On 5/20/2013 4:30 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>>> MIPS and ARM machines don't have a traditional BIOS either,
>>
>> Yes, that was my point. You'll probably never see UEFI on these
>> platforms. So LILO
On 2013-05-21 04:03 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/20/2013 4:30 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> MIPS and ARM machines don't have a traditional BIOS either,
>
> Yes, that was my point. You'll probably never see UEFI on these
> platforms. So LILO could be used basically forever.
Hardly, because L
>
> >> Another note, GRUB2 is more similar to Lilo than you think.
> >
> > They're both boot loaders. Of course they're similar. But they have
> > some serious differences. Serious enough that many folks, such as
> > myself, choose to stick with LILO.
>
> Good luck in patching LILO to work
On 5/20/2013 4:30 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2013-05-20 10:44 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>> On 5/20/2013 1:48 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>>> On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>>
On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote:
> The Debian developers (and many other distros)
On Mon, 20 May 2013 02:48:55 -0400 (EDT), Sven wrote:
>
> Good luck in patching LILO to work without a BIOS.
It is true that lilo requires a BIOS interface. However, many
EFI/UEFI machines also provide a BIOS for forward compatibility;
so lilo may still work.
However, for those EFI/UEFI machine
On Sun, 19 May 2013 23:15:54 -0400 (EDT), Dirk wrote:
>
> but... i ask myself: /why/ i am supposed to read and memorize all this
> when even /lilo/ is still working...?
>
> lilo, then grub, then grub2... no real change in functionality... a
> kernel gets booted.. that's it... but all three func
On Sun, 19 May 2013 22:57:28 -0400 (EDT), staticsafe wrote:
>
> Althought the vga=ext option is deprecated with the linux command in
> Grub2, it is still available with the linux16 command in Grub2 as it is
> with the linux command in Grub-legacy. If Grub2 displays "vga=ext is
> deprecated. Use se
On 2013-05-20 10:44 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/20/2013 1:48 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote:
>>>
The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their
support behind GRUB2
On 5/20/2013 1:48 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
>> On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote:
>>
>>> The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their
>>> support behind GRUB2 which allows for (please correct me, if I'm wrong)
>>> f
On 2013-05-20 07:26 +0200, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote:
>
>> The Debian developers (and many other distros) have chosen to put their
>> support behind GRUB2 which allows for (please correct me, if I'm wrong)
>> features like UEFI support and better support for au
On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 00:26 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> They're both boot loaders. Of course they're similar. But they have
> some serious differences. Serious enough that many folks, such as
> myself, choose to stick with LILO. If I had to come up with one word to
> describe today's LILO use
On 5/19/2013 11:04 PM, staticsafe wrote:
> You can use Lilo if you so choose,
I do.
> but don't expect integration
> (specifically kernel package installation scripts).
I don't. I roll my own kernels sans initrd. lilo in MBR, vmlinuz in
ext2 /boot partition.
> The Debian developers (and ma
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 05:15:54AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
> On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote:
> >On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
> >>hello,
> >>
> >>do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
> >>offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpaylo
On 05/20/13 04:57, staticsafe wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
hello,
do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs
i found online surely doesn't work...
so i reverted to grub-l
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
> hello,
>
> do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
> offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs
> i found online surely doesn't work...
>
> so i reverted to grub-legacy...
>
> doesn't anyb
On Mon, 20 May 2013 02:59:43 +0200
Dirk wrote:
> hello,
>
> do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
> offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs i
> found online surely doesn't work...
>
> so i reverted to grub-legacy...
>
> doesn't anybody
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 02:59:43AM +0200, Dirk wrote:
> hello,
>
> do I see that right that vga=ask has been removed in grub2 without
> offering a working replacement? because all those gfxpayload=bla bs
> i found online surely doesn't work...
what branch of debian do you use ? if you are using no
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