[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot

Avoid setting non-standard GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR in /etc/default/grub if you use Debian 12 bookworm with enabled Secure Boot and signed grub image from Debian. Alternatively install grub-2.12 from backports. On 23/08/2024 11:39, Felix Miata wrote: I don't know what vexing secure boot might introdu

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 30/08/2024 23:42, Felix Miata wrote: Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-30 23:09 (UTC+0700): How does grubx64.efi find where grub.cfg is located? I don't know what doc might report this, but in a file viewer I see a string like (,gpt7)/boot/grub) embedded in a vast sea of nulls 98% of the wa

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-30 23:09 (UTC+0700): > How does grubx64.efi find where grub.cfg is located? I don't know what doc might report this, but in a file viewer I see a string like (,gpt7)/boot/grub) embedded in a vast sea of nulls 98% of the way into the file. -- Evolution as taught i

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 23/08/2024 11:39, Felix Miata wrote: I don't know what vexing secure boot might introduce, but without it, GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= was used by grub-install in Trixie here to produce results I expected: [...] # grep TOR /etc/default/grub GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="debian13" [...] ├── debian13 │   └── grub

[SUMMARY] Re: UEFI multiboot

On 22/08/2024 16:44, Felix Miata wrote: That is written by any process that reads GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= to determine where to do its writing on the ESP. To avoid confusion of those who may notice this thread in search engine results: In Debian GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR value is *not* passed to "grub-inst

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-22 22:56 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> # ls -gG/boot/efi/EFI/opensusetw/ >> total 148 >> -rwxr-xr-x 1 151552 Aug 21 16:08 grubx64.efi > Am I right that you either do not use Secure Boot or generated a local > key instead of/in addition to Microsoft and SUSE

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 22/08/2024 16:44, Felix Miata wrote: # ls -gG/boot/efi/EFI/opensusetw/ total 148 -rwxr-xr-x 1 151552 Aug 21 16:08 grubx64.efi Am I right that you either do not use Secure Boot or generated a local key instead of/in addition to Microsoft and SUSE ones? In the case of default or almost defa

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-22 10:17 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> My BBS menu contains 4 entries corresponding to output from efibootmgr, >> with the highlight on the one beginning "opensusetw", as configured via >> GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=. > Or it just coincides with the configured value.

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 22/08/2024 05:21, Felix Miata wrote: My BBS menu contains 4 entries corresponding to output from efibootmgr, with the highlight on the one beginning "opensusetw", as configured via GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=. Or it just coincides with the configured value. My expectation is that EFI/opensusetw/grub.

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 23:17 (UTC+0700): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): >>> I was experimenting trying to get 2 >>> entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found >>> it tricky and inconvenient. >> How so? I fo

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Have I missed something or GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR affects *grub* menu, but not > *UEFI* boot menu? Indeed, it is not just as simple as that. >I still suspect it is a UEFI+SecureBoot design > shortcoming that it is not possible to install the same loader

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 21/08/2024 11:25, Felix Miata wrote: Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): I was experimenting trying to get 2 entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found it tricky and inconvenient. How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and re

Re: UEFI multiboot

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:45:05 +0200 Nicolas George wrote: > Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? > > There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > > > I was responding to > > "AIUI > > UEFI/GPT were designed t

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin (12024-08-21): > Do you mean 3rd party bootloader (e.g. grub)? There is nothing “3rd party” about GRUB. > I was responding to "AIUI > UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot". Yes, and so was I. If you want half a dozen different GRU

Re: UEFI multiboot

Max Nikulin composed on 2024-08-21 10:54 (UTC+0700): > I was experimenting trying to get 2 > entries from the same vendor in the UEFI (firmware) boot menu and found > it tricky and inconvenient. How so? I found it quite simple to edit /etc/default/grub and replace the default value of GRUB_DIS

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 20/08/2024 22:50, Nicolas George wrote: Max Nikulin (12024-08-20): Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that you will need to in

Re: UEFI multiboot

On 8/20/24 12:29, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote: [...] EFI files are signed for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted. Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, it

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > [...] > > EFI files are signed > > for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted. > > Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, its only “merit” is to > prevent l

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

Max Nikulin (12024-08-20): > Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but > not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that you will need to install and/or configure the bootloader manua

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 05:17:43PM CEST, Max Nikulin said: > On 20/08/2024 11:27, David Christensen wrote: > > AIUI UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot > > Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but > not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 3:57 PM Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. > > I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the private

Re: UEFI secure boot issue

On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 9:23 AM Bhasker C V wrote: > > I generated a pr/pk pair and the kernel is signed. Placed them in the > kernel tree and compiled the kernel. I don't think you are supposed to check-in/compile-in the private key. It is usually supposed to stay private. > Could someone tell

Re: UEFI refusing NVRAM writes, breaking GRUB install and upgrade

Thanks a lot, this is very useful! - vinceh121 On 9/18/22 13:42, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 03:07:29AM +0200, vinceh121 wrote: Thanks, this works! Is there a way to set this option during installation on a netinst image? Yes! You can switch to expert mode for installatio

Re: UEFI refusing NVRAM writes, breaking GRUB install and upgrade

On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 03:07:29AM +0200, vinceh121 wrote: >Thanks, this works! > >Is there a way to set this option during installation on a netinst image? Yes! You can switch to expert mode for installation and then grub-efi-$ARCH will ask you these questions. Or you can add these options using

Re: UEFI refusing NVRAM writes, breaking GRUB install and upgrade

Thanks, this works! Is there a way to set this option during installation on a netinst image? - vinceh121 On 9/17/22 00:03, Steve McIntyre wrote: vinceh121 wrote: Southern French government is handing out laptops (HP ProBook x360 G1 EE) to students, whom a lot of want to install a Linux dis

Re: UEFI refusing NVRAM writes, breaking GRUB install and upgrade

vinceh121 wrote: > >Southern French government is handing out laptops (HP ProBook x360 G1 >EE) to students, whom a lot of want to install a Linux distro on. > >However, many distros installs are broken by grub-install either safely >failing, or making the kernel hang while trying to write NVRAM b

Re: UEFI refusing NVRAM writes, breaking GRUB install and upgrade

Am 16.09.2022 um 20:19 schrieb vinceh121: > Is there a way to mitigate this problem? Apart from the plan, you seem to be favoring, i would like to introduce another option to you: (BTW: I used it myself, and still do, while i was learning to reconfigure to UEFI-Booting) There is a sort of boot

Re: UEFI and legacy MBR

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Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

On 1/5/20, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : > > [FAT, hard links] > >> >a feature that is crucial for dpkg. >> >> I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create >> additio

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

Le 05/01/2020 à 11:00, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit : On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : [FAT, hard links] a feature that is crucial for dpkg. I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create addition

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

On Sun, Jan 05, 2020 at 10:47:52AM +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : [FAT, hard links] > >a feature that is crucial for dpkg. > > I vaguely remember this, but not when and why dpkg needs to create > additional hard links. Can you refresh my memories ?

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

Le 04/01/2020 à 20:47, Sven Joachim a écrit : On 2020-01-04 13:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Some new boot specification mounts the EFI partition on /boot Citation needed, which specification is that? Freedesktop/systemd's Boot Loader Specification.

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

On 2020-01-04 13:38 +0100, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 04/01/2020 à 11:25, Bonno Bloksma a écrit : > >> If I had not created that /boot partition would those files be in >> /boot folder on the / (root) partition or would /boot then be on the >> EFI partition? > > On the root partition. Some new bo

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

Bonno Bloksma writes: > Hi, > > > > I have been creating a small (300MB) primary /boot partition at the > beginning of the disk for as long as I can remember... That is after > disks got to be too big for the BIOS to reach all of the disk to be > able to boot from a file anywhere on the disk. > >

Re: uefi boot install and disk partitions

Le 04/01/2020 à 11:25, Bonno Bloksma a écrit : I have been creating a small (300MB) primary /boot partition at the beginning of the disk for as long as I can remember... That is after disks got to be too big for the BIOS to reach all of the disk to be able to boot from a file anywhere on the

Re: UEFI Secure Boot lockdown effects (Was: Installation suitability for Dell laptop)

Didier Gaumet, on 2019-09-17: > Le mardi 17 septembre 2019 22:00:05 UTC+2, Étienne Mollier a écrit : > [...] > > I am seriously considering sticking to UEFI > > Secure Boot, not exactly for security, mostly to have a general > > idea of how things work, by practice. > [...] > > I have not tested it

Re: UEFI Secure Boot lockdown effects (Was: Installation suitability for Dell laptop)

Le mardi 17 septembre 2019 22:00:05 UTC+2, Étienne Mollier a écrit : [...] > I am seriously considering sticking to UEFI > Secure Boot, not exactly for security, mostly to have a general > idea of how things work, by practice. [...] I have not tested it myself (only KVM/Ovmf but without SecureBoot

Re: UEFI beginner questions

OOPS I apparently replied directly to tuulen. I am now trying to copy that reply to the list. Sorry for the confusion. === [OOOPS! I am replying to you directly and not to the list. At this point I will try to send a second copy to th

Re: UEFI beginner questions

On Fri, 7 Jun 2019 22:46:02 -0400 tuulen wrote: > Hi, > I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line > user. But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft. I spent > a lot of time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I > discovered Debian. And because I like

Re: UEFI beginner questions

Le 08/06/2019 à 04:46, tuulen a écrit : I was in the process of partitioning my hard drive to install Debian when I encountered a couple of UEFI complications. My HP Laptop with Windows 10 does not offer a way to disable the "secure boot" feature of UEFI, so that makes Debian off limits. I am

Re: UEFI beginner questions

tuulen composed on 2019-06-07 22:46 (UTC-0400): > Any computer model suggestions? "Model" has a peculiar mix of meanings among PC manufacturers and users. The major brands seem to like confusing users by providing multiple submodels of the same model and calling the submodels models. The submod

Re: UEFI beginner questions

On 6/7/19 7:46 PM, tuulen wrote: Hi, I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line user. But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft. I spent a lot of time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I discovered Debian. And because I like to know the details of w

Re: UEFI beginner questions

tuulen wrote: > Hi, > I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line user. > But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft.  I spent a lot of > time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I discovered Debian. > And because I like to know the details of what I am d

Re: UEFI beginner questions

On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 at 13:03, tuulen wrote: > > My HP Laptop with Windows 10 does not offer a way to disable the "secure > boot" feature of UEFI Hi, more information from you might produce more useful replies :) If you state the specific model of your laptop and BIOS version, it would create a p

Re: UEFI beginner questions

HP works, I have 5 HP machines at this time, all running Debian. "secure boot" does not exist on any of them. I do Not use UEFI, only Legacy Boot. Never figured it out or saw an urgent need to use it. BIOS/UEFI menus are all different, even on similar models and makes. there are a number of artic

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

On Wed 16 May 2018 at 00:23:43 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 15/05/2018 à 03:37, David Wright a écrit : > > > >>But GRUB is not the only available bootloader. > > > >No. > > > >It's difficult to divine which bootloaders the author is familiar with. > >My own experience of the last twenty yea

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Wed 16 May 2018 at 00:35:33 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 15/05/2018 à 03:23, David Wright a écrit : > > > >In this particular instance (the Lenovo), its PDF says: > (...) > > The default boot mode for your computer is UEFI mode. If you need to > > install a legacy operating syste

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Hi, i wrote: > > - Compromise is to set the boot flag on a dummy partition of type 0x00. > >    This is barely UEFI-compliant because the specs say that a partition of > >    type 0x00 shall be regarded as non-existent. Pascal Hambourg wrote: > - I had to use the old fdisk version from Wheezy bec

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Le 16/05/2018 à 00:10, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 15/05/2018 à 08:51, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : Summary: - Boot flag on MBR partition of type 0xEE is bad on several EFI    implementations. - No MBR partition with boot flag is bad on some very few BIOS    implementations. Not so few in my exp

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

On 16-May-18 00:23, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 15/05/2018 à 03:37, David Wright a écrit : But GRUB is not the only available bootloader. No. It's difficult to divine which bootloaders the author is familiar with. My own experience of the last twenty years is limited to Lilo and Grub. Same

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

Le 15/05/2018 à 03:23, David Wright a écrit : In this particular instance (the Lenovo), its PDF says: (...) The default boot mode for your computer is UEFI mode. If you need to install a legacy operating system, such as Windows (that is, any operating system before Windows 8)

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Le 15/05/2018 à 03:37, David Wright a écrit : But GRUB is not the only available bootloader. No. It's difficult to divine which bootloaders the author is familiar with. My own experience of the last twenty years is limited to Lilo and Grub. Same here. I would not trust LILO any more now be

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Le 15/05/2018 à 08:51, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : Summary: - Boot flag on MBR partition of type 0xEE is bad on several EFI implementations. - No MBR partition with boot flag is bad on some very few BIOS implementations. Not so few in my experience. - Compromise is to set the boot flag on

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Hi, i wrote: > > And as said previously, BIOS does not expect any partitions. Pascal Hambourg wrote: > experience taught me that many BIOS implementations wrongly > expect an MBR partition entry with the boot flag set in order to boot from > the disk. You are right (and those firmwares are wrong

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Mon 14 May 2018 at 23:29:43 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 14/05/2018 à 02:02, David Wright a écrit : > >On Sun 13 May 2018 at 19:08:48 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> > >>Most of my early experience with UEFI boot comes from a rather old > >>Intel motherboard. Beside crippled UEFI su

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

On Mon 14 May 2018 at 23:39:06 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 14/05/2018 à 16:33, David Wright a écrit : > > > > "Don’t do UEFI-native installs to MBR-formatted disks, or BIOS > > compatibility installs to GPT-formatted disks (an exception to the > > latter is if your disk is, IIR

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Mon 14 May 2018 at 11:56:11 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > Yes, documentation of firmware is almost unknown in my experience > > (since probably 30 years ago). That's why I took the least invasive > > It's documented to the extent that it says "implements UEFI" and that > UEFI is documented

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

Chris Ramsden wrote: > On 2018-05-14 01:21, songbird wrote: >> Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> ... >>> I agree with the author. If you want to keep the existing EFI Windows >>> installation and have a convenient dual boot with GRUB, you'll have to >>> set up your favourite distribution to boot in EFI m

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Le 14/05/2018 à 17:50, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : And as said previously, BIOS does not expect any partitions. In theory. All it should expect is the MBR signature 0xAA55. But as said previously, experience taught me that many BIOS implementations wrongly expect an MBR partition entry with the

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Le 14/05/2018 à 16:33, David Wright a écrit : "Don’t do UEFI-native installs to MBR-formatted disks, or BIOS compatibility installs to GPT-formatted disks (an exception to the latter is if your disk is, IIRC, 2.2+TB in size, because the MBR format can’t handle disks that big

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

Le 14/05/2018 à 02:02, David Wright a écrit : On Sun 13 May 2018 at 19:08:48 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: Most of my early experience with UEFI boot comes from a rather old Intel motherboard. Beside crippled UEFI support (no UEFI boot from USB or SATA in AHCI mode), it had a couple of annoyi

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

> Yes, documentation of firmware is almost unknown in my experience > (since probably 30 years ago). That's why I took the least invasive It's documented to the extent that it says "implements UEFI" and that UEFI is documented. >> Same here (basically for the same reason: the behavior of the firm

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting

Hi, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > the behavior of the firmware > > and OS when faced with a disk that has both a GPT and an MBR partitions > > is largely unspecified and will vary depending on your system). David Wright wrote: > I've yet to see a GPT disk that didn't have a protective MBR. > I though

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On 2018-05-14 14:55, David Wright wrote: > Would I be correct in thinking that the BIOS POST boot screen is > what you get when you hit F12 sufficiently quickly after switch-on? > So are you choosing between UEFI and Legacy (compatibility) mode. > (I would like to know how Dell handles what I've be

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Mon 14 May 2018 at 09:14:23 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote: > > That said, there are other statements that are odd: > > Not sure what you find odd about them: > > > "I really can’t recommend strongly enough that you do not attempt > > to mix UEFI-native and BIOS-compatible booting of >

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Mon 14 May 2018 at 13:28:56 (+0100), Chris Ramsden wrote: > On 2018-05-14 01:21, songbird wrote: > > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > ... > >> I agree with the author. If you want to keep the existing EFI Windows > >> installation and have a convenient dual boot with GRUB, you'll have to > >> set up

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

> That said, there are other statements that are odd: Not sure what you find odd about them: > "I really can’t recommend strongly enough that you do not attempt > to mix UEFI-native and BIOS-compatible booting of > permanently-installed operating systems on the same computer, and >

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On 2018-05-14 01:21, songbird wrote: > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > ... >> I agree with the author. If you want to keep the existing EFI Windows >> installation and have a convenient dual boot with GRUB, you'll have to >> set up your favourite distribution to boot in EFI mode. If you want to >> go

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

Pascal Hambourg wrote: ... > I agree with the author. If you want to keep the existing EFI Windows > installation and have a convenient dual boot with GRUB, you'll have to > set up your favourite distribution to boot in EFI mode. If you want to > go back to legacy boot, including for Windows, yo

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

On Sun 13 May 2018 at 19:08:48 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 13/05/2018 à 17:18, David Wright a écrit : > >On Fri 11 May 2018 at 15:13:04 (-0500), Kent West wrote: > >> > >>That's good to know. I guess my source material ( > >>https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-

Re: UEFI/"BIOS" booting, was Re: USB Install Fails, Complains about CD-ROM

Le 13/05/2018 à 17:18, David Wright a écrit : On Fri 11 May 2018 at 15:13:04 (-0500), Kent West wrote: That's good to know. I guess my source material ( https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/) is wrong. Or I misunderstood it. While a lot of the de

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 17/05/2017 à 20:07, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/16/2017 12:40 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Because of what I left quoted just above, I advise again using "debian" as a sub-chain in the ID, because such entry may be deleted by a later uncautious invocation of grub-install. Wait, it (grub-instal

Re: UEFI + Raid

On 05/16/2017 12:40 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this now

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 16/05/2017 à 19:40, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this n

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this now: grub-install -v --target=x86_64-efi --bootlo

Re: UEFI + Raid

On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/05/2017 à 00:53, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/09/2017 05:44 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Or use grub-install with --removable and --efi-directory for each disk. Or use grub-install with --efi-directory and --bootloader-id to install a copy of GRU

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 11/05/2017 à 00:53, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/09/2017 05:44 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Or use grub-install with --removable and --efi-directory for each disk. Or use grub-install with --efi-directory and --bootloader-id to install a copy of GRUB wherever you want and add an EFI boot entry fo

Re: UEFI + Raid

On 05/09/2017 05:44 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 09/05/2017 à 01:48, Sam Smith a écrit : I have installed Debian Stretch on my first system using UEFI. I used a two disk Raid 1 + LVM configured during install time to mount / on (among other things). But now I need to figure out how to add red

Re: UEFI + Raid

Le 09/05/2017 à 01:48, Sam Smith a écrit : I have installed Debian Stretch on my first system using UEFI. I used a two disk Raid 1 + LVM configured during install time to mount / on (among other things). But now I need to figure out how to add redundancy to the software raid 1 since I believe b

Re: UEFI + Raid

deb...@net153.net wrote: >Hi, > >I have installed Debian Stretch on my first system using UEFI. I used a >two disk Raid 1 + LVM configured during install time to mount / on >(among other things). > >But now I need to figure out how to add redundancy to the software raid >1 since I believe boot e

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 08:59:42PM +0200, Dan wrote: >On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> Hope that helps! > >Thanks a lot for the great explanation! > >I think it would be helpful for other users to put all this in the >Debian Wiki. Maybe you can paste your answer in a ne

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>Hi Steve, >>As you suggested I use the option "Force Grub installation to the EFI >>removable media path" and it works :) > > OK, cool. > >>Is there any disadvantage using this option? What is the difference >>between this option and the reg

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 06:16:13PM +0200, Dan wrote: >On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Dan wrote: >> >>>I just bought a desktop (Dell T5810). I tried to install Jessie with >>>UEFI. The USB installation (netinst) works perfectly. I installed the >>>whole system and I can s

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Dan wrote: > >>I just bought a desktop (Dell T5810). I tried to install Jessie with >>UEFI. The USB installation (netinst) works perfectly. I installed the >>whole system and I can see it in the UEFI/BIOS menu. Surprisingly when >>I try to b

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Nicolas George wrote: > L'octidi 8 messidor, an CCXXIII, Dan a écrit : >> As suggested I typed efibootmgr -v and everything seems to be fine. I get > > How do you know everything seems fine? Can you read this output in details? > >> BootCurrent: 0001 >> Timeout: 1

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

L'octidi 8 messidor, an CCXXIII, Dan a écrit : > As suggested I typed efibootmgr -v and everything seems to be fine. I get How do you know everything seems fine? Can you read this output in details? > BootCurrent: 0001 > Timeout: 1 seconds > BootOrder ,0001 > Boot0001* UEFI: SanDisk Cruzer B

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Dan wrote: > >>I just bought a desktop (Dell T5810). I tried to install Jessie with >>UEFI. The USB installation (netinst) works perfectly. I installed the >>whole system and I can see it in the UEFI/BIOS menu. Surprisingly when >>I try to b

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

Dan wrote: >I just bought a desktop (Dell T5810). I tried to install Jessie with >UEFI. The USB installation (netinst) works perfectly. I installed the >whole system and I can see it in the UEFI/BIOS menu. Surprisingly when >I try to boot the system I get "No bootable devices found" > >I tried all

Re: UEFI works with USB but not with HDD

L'octidi 8 messidor, an CCXXIII, Dan a écrit : > I just bought a desktop (Dell T5810). I tried to install Jessie with > UEFI. The USB installation (netinst) works perfectly. I installed the > whole system and I can see it in the UEFI/BIOS menu. Surprisingly when > I try to boot the system I get "No

Re: UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

* Steve Litt: > I've personally disabled Secure Boot from a cold boot to the BIOS, and > then installed Ubuntu, and had both OS's work. I've done this at least > twice, maybe more. That being said, perhaps the reason I failed to > install a *Debian* dual-boot was because I shut off Secure Boot fro

Re: UEFI Secure Boot and enabling W8/Linux dual boot - some links/refs

On Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:51:19 +0100 Ron Leach wrote: > 3. a Use a 'trusted' bootloader, such as: > > http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/20303.html > > or > > 3. b Disable 'Secure Boot', which has to be done from within Windows, > not from a cold boot into BIOS: > > http://itsfoss.com/disable-uefi-

Re: UEFI

Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:49:40 -0700 Noah Meyerhans napísal: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Slavko wrote: > > By this, i see, that the secure boot is good for corporate > > environment, don't affect average home users. For others there is > > more simple to disable it, than alw

Re: UEFI

On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Slavko wrote: > By this, i see, that the secure boot is good for corporate environment, > don't affect average home users. For others there is more simple to > disable it, than always sign any experiment ;) In practice, I'm sure most non-corporate users wi

Re: UEFI

Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 12 Jul 2014 23:55:38 -0700 Noah Meyerhans napísal: > 3. Secure boot. This is a bit weird, because nobody but Microsoft is > apparently interested in investing the resources into the > infrastructure to manage the PKI associated with this. Interestingly, > Microsoft is apparently h

Re: UEFI

On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 03:53:22PM +0200, B wrote: > BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could > be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my > laptop and disabled it from ancient posts I read). There was a good talk at this year's LinuxFest Northwest on this topic. It

Re: UEFI

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 18:44:44 -0600 Bob Proulx wrote: > Steve Litt wrote: > > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB, > > > and all the system runs on it (on a laptop). > > > > You're not going to save much money going below 256GB. I think

Re: UEFI

Steve Litt wrote: > Thierry de Coulon wrote: > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" - the biggest I own is 60GB, > > and all the system runs on it (on a laptop). > > You're not going to save much money going below 256GB. I think below > 128GB, the law of diminishing returns makes it useless to g

Re: UEFI

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:35:37 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: Slitt is right, all non-pro IT prices have a curve like that: / / / / / so you have to see where the knee of this curve is and buy just in it.

Re: UEFI

On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 09:29:51 +0200 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2014 00.44:20 Steve Litt wrote: > > > And, for eighty bucks more you can get a small (256GB) SSD mounted > > as /, put nothing on it but /usr and /opt and possibly /boot > > I would not call a 256 BG SSd "small" -

Re: UEFI

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Thu, 10 Jul 2014 01:49:12 +0800 Bret Busby > napísal: >> On 09/07/2014, B wrote: >> >>> BTW, sorry to hijack a bit this thread, but what could >>> be the advantages to use UEFI (I just have Debian on my >>> laptop and disabled it from ancie

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