OOPS I apparently replied directly to tuulen. I am now trying to copy
that reply to the list. Sorry for

the confusion.

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[OOOPS! I am replying to you directly and not to the list. At this point
I will try to send a second copy

to the list so you might end up with two copies. DUH!!!]


No promises but a thought.

You might look at rEFInd.

The danger in a suggestion like this is if it does not work out for you
in your particular situation, you may have wasted a lot of time.

On the other hand, even if that is the case you might learn stuff but
based on how you described you original problem, you just

want to get to a usable system. (I happen to favor keeping it simple and
just get it to work).

On the plus side (you can call this anecdotal if you want to downplay
the value of the suggestion to use rEFInd or if you like the idea

you can refer to my suggestion as the result of a case study -- my
limited but successful use of rEFInd when I was very frustrated

by the EFI/UEFI interface of an un-named computer manfacturer whose name
has an uncanny resembelance to the name you

mentioned in your post, but maybe it was just me being a bit dense or
worse in understanding what was needed.

Anyways, a URL that might get your foot in the door is:

    http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/

FWIW, rEFInd is also mentioned on Wikipedia. The URL for that is:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REFInd

The official website makes it clear that donations are appreciated but
that is not a requirement as I understand it.

Good luck. Let us know if you decide to explore this possibility or if
going down this path is tooooooooo much of

a distraction of what seems to be your objective to simply can Linux
running on -- what was that brand name again? --

computer.





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On 06/07/2019 10:46 PM, tuulen wrote:
Hi,
I am an ordinary GUI and mouse computer user, not a command line
user.  But I want to get away from both Apple and Microsoft.  I spent
a lot of time looking into Linux, Unix, BSD, and eventually I
discovered Debian.  And because I like to know the details of what I
am doing I also discovered that I just naturally like Debian, too, as
Debian is built upon explanations, fine with me!

I was in the process of partitioning my hard drive to install Debian
when I encountered a couple of UEFI complications.  My HP Laptop with
Windows 10 does not offer a way to disable the "secure boot" feature
of UEFI, so that makes Debian off limits.  Then I went to the HP
website but almost all of the available HP desktops and laptops have
Windows 10, with presumably the same useless UEFI that I now have, and
I did not see any Linux-compatible HP computers as available.  I am
aware that there are other computer makers and manufacturers but I am
wondering what computers the Debian community prefers.  Fortunately my
needs are small bandwidth-wise, no gaming, no movies, nothing bigger
than an occasional news clip or YouTube clip, so I do not need a big,
powerful computer.  I can continue to use Apple and Microsoft
computers for ordinary day-to-day uses but there are some uses, like
banking and financial matters including credit card use, etc., for
which I would very much appreciate a more secure computer and for
different reasons I have come to distrust both Apple and Microsoft. 
OK, so there is a steep learning curve to using Debian, but I think I
can handle learning how to do what I need to do. Any computer model
suggestions?
Thanks!  Best regards, Doug



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