On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 09:50:14 +, Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >
> > > We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> > > as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> >
On 2015-10-17, Brian wrote:
>
> If I were to rewrite part of the package description I would have
>
> If in doubt install this package.
>
> No comma. Its not needed.
No, an apostrophe is needed.
> Install this package if in doubt.
>
>
--
Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> > as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> > unless you explicitly deselect the standard task in d-i.
>
> [pri
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:10:09AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> How about,
>
> When in doubt, definitely install this package.
>
> or, to guide the reader more carefully,
>
> This package is installed by default. Unless you have a very good
> reason and know what you are doing, leave it
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 05:24:10AM +, Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> >
> > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> >
> > Did you maybe misread that as
> > "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
>
> Yes I did.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 22:52:36 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
>> >
>> > As my spouse says:
>> >
>> > "When you go to the Co-op, please do get butter."
>> >
>> > Her expectations are not necessarily m
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 22:52:36 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
> >
> > As my spouse says:
> >
> > "When you go to the Co-op, please do get butter."
> >
> > Her expectations are not necessarily met by the eventual outcome. :)
>
> :-)
>
> Yes, but she
On Saturday 17 October 2015 20:19:48 Brian wrote:
> On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 19:40:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > > >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 19:40:50 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> > >>> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > >>>
On Saturday 17 October 2015 12:29:48 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> >>> Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > If in doub
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 13:29:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> We might also consider bumping the prio of libpam-systemd to standard,
> as Ansgar suggested. That means, it would be installed by default,
> unless you explicitly deselect the standard task in d-i.
Looking at the policy manual at
ht
On 2015-10-17, Brian wrote:
>>
>> The use of 'do' in that way suggests emphasis. If you wanted that
>> emphasis, a more unambiguous way is
>>
>> If in doubt, *install* this package
>>
>> If the emphasis is unnecessary, just leave out the the 'do'.
>
> The sentence is unambiguous (there no wor
On Sat 17 Oct 2015 at 15:01:55 +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Michael Biebl writes:
>
> > Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> >> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schr
Michael Biebl writes:
> Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>> If in doubt, do install this package.
>
>
Am 17.10.2015 um 10:20 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> In Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
>>> Michael Biebl wrote:
Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> If in doubt, do install this package.
Did you maybe misread that as
In Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> > Michael Biebl wrote:
> > > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> > >
> > > Did you maybe misread that as
> > > "If in doubt, do *not* install this pa
On Saturday 17 October 2015 06:24:10 Fredrik Jonson wrote:
> Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> > > If in doubt, do install this package.
> >
> > Did you maybe misread that as
> > "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
>
> Yes I did. I don't know h
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
>
> > If in doubt, do install this package.
>
> Did you maybe misread that as
> "If in doubt, do *not* install this package".
Yes I did. I don't know how many times I've read that sentence, and clearly saw
a _not_ in ther
Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson:
> If in doubt, do install this package.
>
> When debian developers tells me in their package documentation that I really
> should not install their package, I tend to follow their advice. :)
Did you maybe misread that as
"If in doubt, do *not* ins
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Fredrik Jonson writes:
> > What is the recommended way to enable Systemd user services with Debian?
> [...]
> The documentation for "loginctl enable-linger" says "If enabled for a
> specific user, a user manager is spawned for the user at boot and kept
> around after
Fredrik Jonson writes:
> Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Fredrik Jonson writes:
>> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
>> Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.
>
> Initially that didn't work...
>
> root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
> Faile
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> Fredrik Jonson writes:
> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
>
> Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root.
Initially that didn't work...
root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser
Failed to create bus connection: No suc
Fredrik Jonson writes:
> What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian?
[...]
> AFAIU, to make this happen, I need to have a user Systemd instance started on
> boot. How do I set up my Debian server to automatically start a user instance
> for a regular user on boot to co
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