Re: new laptop: how2 enable suspend / hibernate?

2024-06-26 Thread Lee
On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 3:34 PM Van Snyder wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 09:47 -0400, Lee wrote: > > My old laptop died - a tiny little pop and it powered off. So I've > lost my implementation reference. > > If you can get the disk drive out of your old laptop, get a USB adapter for > it. The

Re: new laptop: how2 enable suspend / hibernate?

2024-06-25 Thread Van Snyder
On Tue, 2024-06-25 at 09:47 -0400, Lee wrote: > My old laptop died - a tiny little pop and it powered off.  So I've > lost my implementation reference. If you can get the disk drive out of your old laptop, get a USB adapter for it. Then you can look at your installation logs. > My new laptop is a

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 08:39:25PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM is worthless unless you plan to add disks in the future. I'd agree that It's utility is very much diminished by d-i allocating the entire VG with its gu

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Pascal Hambourg (2019-04-16 20:39:25) > Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : > > > > I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during > > the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be > > ext4, but if not, I will select it). > > If you intend

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-16 09:17 (UTC+0100): > On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >> Both DFSee and IBM >>BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful >>cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector i

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 15/04/2019 à 16:38, Tom Browder a écrit : I have decided to use the Deb installer and select LVM during the clean installation, and accept the FS default (I assume it will be ext4, but if not, I will select it). If you intend to use guided partitioning on the whole disk, I repeat that LVM

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 01:38:12PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Both DFSee and IBM BM use the last sector on the first track for data storage, including useful cataloging data. Even when not having IBM BM installed, its data sector is (optionally) used by DFSee, by me, always. So I gather that you

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Felix Miata
Jonathan Dowland composed on 2019-04-15 10:28 (UTC-0400): > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: >>LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in >>large >>part on cloning useless. > I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate?

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 9:50 AM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and ... Thanks to all who have given me advice on selecting the file system for a new laptop. After considering all suggestions and my use of the laptop, I have decided to use the

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 09:50:23AM -0500, Tom Browder wrote: I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. What in particular do you find attrac

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 05:36:00PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: LVM's extra layer(s) would render my backup/restore system that depends in large part on cloning useless. I don't quite understand this, would you care to elaborate? Thanks! -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.n

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 4:51 PM Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:36 PM Felix Miata wrote: > > Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Dan Ritter
Curt wrote: > On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > > familiar with ZFS. > > Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the > concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits tha

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-13 Thread Curt
On 2019-04-12, Thomas D Dial wrote: > > ZFS for /home makes sense, especially for anyone not already somewhat > familiar with ZFS. Well, if ZFS is this big sixteen-wheeler that you might crash into the concrete embankment if you're not careful, what are the benefits that outweigh or override thes

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 18:07 Dan Ritter wrote: > Default User wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > > > And what about Btrfs? > > I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an > option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where > doing normal maint

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Default User wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > And what about Btrfs? I don't currently recommend it in any situation where ZFS is an option. That comes from 2 years of working with btrfs where doing normal maintenance ended up destroying data more than once. It may be be

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you mean taking it for a ride like a new c

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Thomas D Dial
On Fri, 2019-04-12 at 12:43 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can an

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Felix Miata
Tom Browder composed on 2019-04-12 09:50 (UTC-0500): > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. Because of its snapshotting, BTRFS requir

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Brian
On Fri 12 Apr 2019 at 12:13:09 -0500, Tom Browder wrote: > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > ... > > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > > is pretty easy to accomplish. > > Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do > you

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Default User
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019, 12:43 Dan Ritter wrote: > Tom Browder wrote: > > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > > > Can anyone re

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Tom Browder
On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:43 AM Dan Ritter wrote: ... > If you want to experiment, having root on ext4 and /home on ZFS > is pretty easy to accomplish. Dan, I'm not trying to be obtuse, but when you say "experiment," do you mean taking it for a ride like a new car where one has to learn new cont

Re: New laptop: need advice on choice of file system types

2019-04-12 Thread Dan Ritter
Tom Browder wrote: > I have used ext4 for many years while I have been watching zfs and > btrfs being developed. I am now considering using one or both on at > least one partion during my upcoming new Debian installation. > > Can anyone recommend either one for a normal (non-developer, > non-hobb

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-28 Thread Seeker
On 8/28/2015 12:38 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 28 August 2015 06:24:33 Seeker wrote: On 8/27/2015 12:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: Connecting home computers to TVs came _before_ connecting them to monitors. The circle has merely come back to the beginning. Lisi I had a Commodor 64, but did

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-28 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 08/28/2015 03:55 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Since this all stays a bit obscure, how about this summary statement: Be aware that inserting a commercial Blu-ray video disc into the drive can have undesired effects on the overall video decoding and display system. (This does not affect the use

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, T.J. Duchene wroye: > Whether you believe me or not, think me paranoid, I got mistrusting, too. > makemkv forum why they > get key revocation warnings even when using Linux Trying to grok their complaints and proposals ... (well, yes kids, a medium error is indeed bad) ... They talk of k

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 28 August 2015 06:24:33 Seeker wrote: > On 8/27/2015 12:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:30:48 Seeker wrote: > >> On a marginally related but not relevant note, that was at a time when > >> hooking a computer to a TV > >> was not so common, > > > > My, we have so

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 28 August 2015 03:09:48 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 27 August 2015 17:00:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Thursday 27 August 2015 05:44:20 Thomas Schmitt (?)wrote: > > > > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. > > > > > > The mailing list archives contain many mega

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Seeker
On 8/27/2015 1:19 PM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Seeker wrote: RPC-1 [...] It was left up to the software to honor the region code or not. RPC-2, commonly accessible software is available that does not care about region code settings. Initialization was changed so software does not have access

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Seeker
On 8/27/2015 12:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:30:48 Seeker wrote: On a marginally related but not relevant note, that was at a time when hooking a computer to a TV was not so common, My, we have some youngsters on this list now. ;-) LOL Connecting home computers to

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 16:19:11 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Seeker wrote: > > I don't know what this "DVD cheating" stuff is about. > > I mean people who buy stuff of which they know that > the deal is unfair and then take much effort to make > it possible to use it despite. > That's the l

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 15:42:24 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 27 August 2015 17:00:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. > > > > The mailing list archives contain many megabytes of such messages > > from upset people.  Use the approximately corre

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 14:10:07 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > (As if I invented online references!!!) > > At least you have more luck with googling than me. > > > I beat this thread not because i want to win. > As said, it is about the potential hazard of too much > "us

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/27/2015 03:48 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:30:48 Seeker wrote: On a marginally related but not relevant note, that was at a time when hooking a computer to a TV was not so common, My, we have some youngsters on this list now. ;-) Connecting home computers to TVs c

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread T.J. Duchene
On Thu, 2015-08-27 at 22:19 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > For own data recordings it should not matter, anyway. Correct. RPC codes only apply to the playback of DVD media that contains data in DVD organized format designed for a player. As a side note, RPC-1 drives have not been manufacture

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Seeker wrote: > I don't know what this "DVD cheating" stuff is about. I mean people who buy stuff of which they know that the deal is unfair and then take much effort to make it possible to use it despite. That's the legal fiction. In practice i doubt that they paid properly for the deal. So

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 19:30:48 Seeker wrote: > On a marginally related but not relevant note, that was at a time when > hooking a computer to a TV > was not so common, My, we have some youngsters on this list now. ;-) Connecting home computers to TVs came _before_ connecting them to monitors

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 17:00:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. > > The mailing list archives contain many megabytes of such messages from > upset people.  Use the approximately correct search terms. Go on, Gene! Provide some references. ;-) Lis

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Seeker
On 8/27/2015 9:04 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Nicolas George wrote: There were the DVD drives by Matsushita, usually found on laptops, that did refuse to return the encrypted contents if the region did not match. This sounds plausible, although i would heavily complain towards the seller i

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lisi Reisz wrote: > (As if I invented online references!!!) At least you have more luck with googling than me. I beat this thread not because i want to win. As said, it is about the potential hazard of too much "user-friendliness" in the drive firmware. If Gene has a pile of dead drives an

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 17:26:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 27 August 2015 06:25:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 27 August 2015 10:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. > > > > I googled it. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > I believe being able to update the drive firmware in that manner it is > part of the Orange Book specification. The rainbow books describe CD media and what the drives shall be able to do with them. No command specs, no wiring specs, no relation to drive firmware, DVD,

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 06:25:52 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 27 August 2015 10:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. > > I googled it. > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4456970.stm > > So sorry, Gene, but Thomas's instincts are right in

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > There were the DVD drives by Matsushita, usually found on laptops, that did > refuse to return the encrypted contents if the region did not match. This sounds plausible, although i would heavily complain towards the seller if i ever found out. There is few chance i wou

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, ken wrote: > I mean, it's possible > for either or both to have malicious code in their firmware. But is either > *known* to? Well, as you can see from my posts i fiercely deny to have such knowledge of malicious code on the level of the drive firmware. (I can be convinced, though, if good ev

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 05:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > We should keep in mind that it was Sony Music whose published cd's > > contained code to check the kind of drive it was being played in, > > and if the drive had a digital output such as the usual 40 pin atapi > > drive cable, t

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 10 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > the reason why i am insisiting in getting facts is that > i want to know whether drive firmware can get altered > by just inserting and reading a commercial Blu-ray disc. > > I sincerely doubt that the drive firmware will do this, > bu

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread ken
On 08/27/2015 06:25 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2015 10:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. I googled it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4456970.stm So sorry, Gene, but Thomas's instincts are right in this case. The playe

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So please bring me the rumors, the urban legends, and > > the true horror stories about this topic. > Google is a marvellous tool, Thomas. Or DuckDuckGo or $SEARCH_ENGINE Any success with finding hints about Blu-ray drive hijacking ? Panasonic promises to do like LG.

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread ken
On 08/27/2015 06:30 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: * ken [2015-08-20 06:53 -0400]: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Isn't a second hd in

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 12:04:52 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4456970.stm > > Pity they don't tell on what operating system or > player the root kit was installed. "If you're using a Linux system, the Sony DRM rootkit does not get

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lisi Reisz wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4456970.stm Pity they don't tell on what operating system or player the root kit was installed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootkit_scandal says that "Sony BMG quickly released software to remove the rootki

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* ken [2015-08-20 06:53 -0400]: > One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling > reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Isn't a second hd in the CD-tray a better option? You have the choice

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 27 August 2015 10:44:20 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > I am curious to learn more about the Sony-CD incident. I googled it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4456970.stm So sorry, Gene, but Thomas's instincts are right in this case. The player was "bricked" only in so far as the root-

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > We should keep in mind that it was Sony Music whose published cd's > contained code to check the kind of drive it was being played in, and if > the drive had a digital output such as the usual 40 pin atapi drive > cable, then it was in a computer, and they bricked the drive. Sony et.al.

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 27 August 2015 03:03:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > the reason why i am insisiting in getting facts is that > i want to know whether drive firmware can get altered > by just inserting and reading a commercial Blu-ray disc. Absolutely Thomas. All of those things look for a key in

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-27 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, the reason why i am insisiting in getting facts is that i want to know whether drive firmware can get altered by just inserting and reading a commercial Blu-ray disc. I sincerely doubt that the drive firmware will do this, but rather believe it is about software on the level of operating syst

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-25 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, T. J. Duchene (i believe) wrote: > > > Blu-ray discs carry updates and blacklists that your Blu-ray drive > > > is required to accept on a hardware level. > If I recall correctly, the updates consist of revoked player keys and > such. Are you sure that this applies to Blu-ray recorders in co

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-24 Thread T.J. Duchene
On Tue, 2015-08-25 at 13:23 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 24/08/15 10:03, T. J. Duchene wrote: > > Blu-ray discs carry updates and blacklists that your Blu-ray drive > > is required to accept on a hardware level. Whenever you insert a > > disc into the drive (OS makes no difference), the firmwa

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-24 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/08/15 10:03, T. J. Duchene wrote: > Blu-ray discs carry updates and blacklists that your Blu-ray drive > is required to accept on a hardware level. Whenever you insert a > disc into the drive (OS makes no difference), the firmware is > checked

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-23 Thread T. J. Duchene
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 06:53:42 -0400 ken wrote: > One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. > I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, > as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? > Hi Ken! Hope you are having a fabulous day.

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:48:11 -0400 doug wrote: Hello doug, >actually going to watch movies on a laptop? Why not? People watch them on a wristwatch these days. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Keep your drink j

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread Nicolas George
Le tridi 3 fructidor, an CCXXIII, doug a écrit : > If the DVD is not a writer as well as a player, it's not a good deal at > all, but BluRay is worse Why would it be worse? Anything a DVD drive can do, a BD drive is supposed to be able to do as well. Really, there is no hesitation: if the only d

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread doug
On 08/20/2015 12:53 PM, ken wrote: On 08/20/2015 10:14 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 20/08/15 06:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-r

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread ken
On 08/20/2015 10:14 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 20/08/15 06:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? The decision isn't that simple

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread Gary Dale
On 20/08/15 06:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? The decision isn't that simple. As others have pointed out, the "no o

Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray

2015-08-20 Thread Stefan Monnier
> One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs > Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling > reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Get neither: nowadays an optical reader is just a relic of the past, making your laptop heavier and red

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2014-01-22 Thread Richard Hector
On 23/01/14 15:53, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > This brings up the next issue: how difficult is it in debian to configure > > the upgrade process so that it is the sources which are automatically > > downloaded and (also automatically) compiled? > > I don't think there's any support for that. That co

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2014-01-22 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> The rule of thumb, in general is that a speed increase smaller than >> about 30% goes unnoticed. > That 30% sounds about right, but then too I suppose it would also depend > upon how closely the speed is being examined and how perceptually prominent > the executable is and other factors. Of cou

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Charlie wrote: For CD-ROM BIOS updates in Windows 8 models: (1) Shut down the system while pressing the SHIFT key to completely power off. (2) Power on while pressing F2 to enter the BIOS Setup Menu. Miles, you are the man, That worked. Now please allow me to thank you. I trolled the net for

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 14 Nov 2013 20:47:34 + Tom H sent: > You have to boot into Win8 and either (1) shutdown fully with > "shutdown /s /t 0" from a command prompt or (2) turn off Fast Boot in > the control panel's power options and shutdown. Thank you. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 3295

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Charlie
>If it's Windows-8, you may need to do a real shutdown first. Search for >'win 8 full shutdown toshiba', for example, to find out how it can be >done. Miles found that. Thank you for the correct suggestion. It's much appreciated. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 ***

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:01 PM, Charlie wrote: > > Tried that also and that definitely doesn't work. Worked my way through > the "F" keys - no joy. > > Boots straight into windows 8 or 8.1. > > Have pulled the battery to make certain that everything is really dead > when I shut down. > > No joy.

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: > On 11/14/2013 08:35 PM, Charlie wrote: >> >> Had to get a new laptop, my 7 year old Acer needs replacing bought a >> Toshiba C50D Satellite. >> >> But can't get into the BIOS by the way that is posted on the net. Press >> F2 before powering up. >

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/14/2013 02:35 PM, Charlie wrote: > > Had to get a new laptop, my 7 year old Acer needs replacing bought a > Toshiba C50D Satellite. > > But can't get into the BIOS by the way that is posted on the net. Press > F2 before powering up. > [...] If

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Charlie
>For CD-ROM BIOS updates in Windows 8 models: (1) Shut down the system while pressing the SHIFT key to completely power off. (2) Power on >while pressing F2 to enter the BIOS Setup Menu. Miles, you are the man, That worked. Now please allow me to thank you. I trolled the net for hours last nigh

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Charlie
>choose to boot into the BIOS from the Windows GUI >to do a "real" reboot. Sorry, now my claws-mail isn't quoting the text when I hit reply? This machine is on the way out al right. So, How do I do that from the Windows GUI? I've been a Linux user too longg. Charlie -- Reg

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Charlie wrote: Had to get a new laptop, my 7 year old Acer needs replacing bought a Toshiba C50D Satellite. But can't get into the BIOS by the way that is posted on the net. Press F2 before powering up. Did find this on Toshiba's site (as part of instructions for updating the BIOS). Steps 1-

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Miles Fidelman
Charlie wrote: Is not being able to get into the BIOS enough of a reason to return the machine to the store and if not then the above? Well, I would - though I might call the vendor's customer support line first and ask them directly how to get into the BIOS. Miles Fidelman -- In theory,

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 06:35:50AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > Anyone have any ideas how it might be done? I might be stuck with > having to use Windows. [sad] Not a big deal. Just install debian in a virtual machine. Greg -- web site: http://www.gregn..net gpg public key: http://www.gregn..net/pu

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Charlie
>*before* ? >According to >http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=4001695 >it should be pressed *while* powering it on. And I guess: keep the >button pressed too...? Tried that also and that definitely doesn't work. Worked my way through the "F" keys - no joy. Boots stra

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 11/14/2013 08:35 PM, Charlie wrote: > Had to get a new laptop, my 7 year old Acer needs replacing bought a > Toshiba C50D Satellite. > > But can't get into the BIOS by the way that is posted on the net. Press > F2 before powering up. > > Tried Esc and Del and a combination of all three. > > A

Re: New laptop...........

2013-11-14 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 06:35:50AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > > Had to get a new laptop, my 7 year old Acer needs replacing bought a > Toshiba C50D Satellite. > > But can't get into the BIOS by the way that is posted on the net. Press > F2 before powering up. *before* ? According to http://sup

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2013-11-11 Thread ken
On 11/10/2013 03:02 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: There are considerable price increases with each quite small increase in speed-- hundreds of dollars--, but over two or three years I think the extra dollars would be worth the performance increase... *IF* there is a noticeable performance increase.

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2013-11-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> There are considerable price increases with each quite small increase in > speed-- hundreds of dollars--, but over two or three years I think the extra > dollars would be worth the performance increase... *IF* there > is a noticeable performance increase. The rule of thumb, in general is that a

Re: new laptop: compiling source for i7 CPUs???

2013-10-27 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 05:57:04PM -0400, ken wrote: > One laptop I'm looking at buying offers these CPU options: > > * 4 Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4700MQ Processor ( 2.4 GHz 6MB L3 > Cache - 4 Cores plus Hyperthreading ) > > * 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-4800MQ Processor ( 2.7 GHz 6MB L3 > C

Re: New laptop won't boot off of boot disc

2012-02-24 Thread Don deJuan
On 02/24/2012 10:55 PM, Eric Galaxy wrote: It tries to boot off of the disc, then boots up off the hard drive (windows). It is a Acer Aspire 4750. It has 3 MB L3 cache, 2.10 GHz, DDR3 1333 MHz, 35 W processor, 2 gigs ram, 2 hard drives totalling 650 gig space. I'll figure out how to do a checksu

Re: New laptop won't boot off of boot disc

2012-02-24 Thread Eric Galaxy
It tries to boot off of the disc, then boots up off the hard drive (windows). It is a Acer Aspire 4750. It has 3 MB L3 cache, 2.10 GHz, DDR3 1333 MHz, 35 W processor, 2 gigs ram, 2 hard drives totalling 650 gig space. I'll figure out how to do a checksum and boot with nomodeset and get back to you

Re: New laptop won't boot off of boot disc

2012-02-24 Thread Don deJuan
On 02/24/2012 02:15 PM, Eric Galaxy wrote: I created two different boot discs to install Debian on my new laptop. The laptop will not boot up off of either of them. I tried booting off another boot disc, and it booted without problems. Anyone have ideas what the problem and solution are? -- Eri

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Porcia Silvia
> Pity. There is a super firm in the UK! At Los Alamos Computer a reputable American company will install your choice of any GNU/Linux distribution on a variety of Lenovo Think Pads. http://laclinux.com/en/Laptop -- ps -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread steve reilly
On 12/11/2011 02:46 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote: * Richard Owlett [111211 08:19]: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Back in the days of Lenny, this outfit

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
marcus wrote: On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. Sorry for being late to the party, When I bgough

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi wrote: On Sunday 11 December 2011 13:06:45 Richard Owlett wrote: Lisi wrote: On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some com

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Richard Owlett [111211 08:19]: > I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm > aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I > would like to do some comparison shopping. Back in the days of Lenny, this outfit has shipped laptops with Debian installed and e

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread marcus
On 12/09/2011 04:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. Sorry for being late to the party, When I bgought my last mac

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 11 December 2011 13:06:45 Richard Owlett wrote: > Lisi wrote: > > On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. > >> I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone > >> else? I would like to do some

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi wrote: On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means

Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled

2011-12-10 Thread Lisi
On Friday 09 December 2011 21:29:17 Richard Owlett wrote: > I'm looking for a laptop with Linux preinstalled by vendor. > I'm aware of System76 who ships with Ubuntu. Is there anyone > else? I would like to do some comparison shopping. > > Thank you. You don't say where. That usually means in the

Multi-booting (was: Re: New laptop with Linux preinstalled)

2011-12-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Vi, 09 dec 11, 18:24:56, doug wrote: > > Hint: if you run more than one Linux distro, within each Documents > directory, put a filename > that says pclos, or ubuntu, or whatever, so when you select a > partition, you can figure out what > system you're accessing. Otherwise it gets confusing!

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