Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-14 Thread Thomas Dineen
Why dose this thread continue? Do you realize that you are on the Debian Linux Reflector! You cant  be more off topic! On 6/14/2025 1:59 AM, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/25 21:56, Van Snyder wrote: On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 17:23 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: Based on those documents, can you describe

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-14 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/25 21:56, Van Snyder wrote: On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 17:23 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: Based on those documents, can you describe "how it works"?  The documents don't.  They just assert that all radiation reduces the mass of the black hole.  How is that reduction accomplished? Radation has

Re: evince question

2025-06-13 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-06-14 at 13:56 +0800, Y Peng wrote: > On 2025-06-13 01:42, Van Snyder wrote: > > Does "evince" have a "back" button like "okular" has? "acroread" > > has > > one but one must find a switch for it in settings. > > I just use okular. > It supports more file formats than Evince and offer

Re: evince question

2025-06-13 Thread Y Peng
On 2025-06-13 01:42, Van Snyder wrote: Does "evince" have a "back" button like "okular" has? "acroread" has one but one must find a switch for it in settings. I just use okular. It supports more file formats than Evince and offers features like annotations, text highlighting, and the ability t

Re: evince question

2025-06-13 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-12, Van Snyder wrote: > > Does "evince" have a "back" button like "okular" has? "acroread" has > one but one must find a switch for it in settings. > Left arrow works here. ctrl left arrow shifts the document 45° to the left, so that two ctrl left arrows produces an upside-down docume

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Paul Leiber
Am 12.06.2025 um 14:16 schrieb Michael Stone: On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:17:26PM -, Greg wrote: I have a Brother HL-2350DW and it just worked without further ado. Pretty much any modern networked single-function printer will just work. I've used canon and lexmark fairly recently, but no d

Re: evince question

2025-06-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hi, On 12/06/2025 19:42, Van Snyder wrote: Does "evince" have a "back" button like "okular" has? "acroread" has one but one must find a switch for it in settings. There is at list a back short-cut: Alt + P see for other shortcuts: evince -> [three bars button (upper right)] -> 'keyboard shor

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

2025-06-12 Thread mick.crane
On 2025-06-12 14:26, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Thanks for the reply. On 12/06/2025 15:12, Greg wrote: On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way to set the size of the window popped

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I think the original poster specifically wanted a laser printer (I'm with him on that, and with Greg: inkjets are the perfect "razor-and-blades model" device, with a rock-bottom initial cost and expensive consumables, and the printed documents are very water-sensitive), and specifically a PostS

Re: disk cache

2025-06-12 Thread Mike Castle
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 6:52 PM xuser wrote: > is there any way to limit the disk cache to %30 of the memory? Why do you think you need to do that? The kernel should be doing a good job of efficiently using the memory. Restricting the amount of RAM used for caching is likely to slow things down

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread gene heskett
On 6/12/25 08:32, Greg wrote: On 2025-06-12, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:17:26PM -, Greg wrote: I have a Brother HL-2350DW and it just worked without further ado. Pretty much any modern networked single-function printer will just work. I've used canon and lexmark fairl

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-12, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 12:41:34PM -, Greg wrote: >>Way back when I was still in high school, I had a Corona electric >>typewriter (it had ink cartridges you'd slip in). If you made a typo, >>you'd insert the correction cartridge and type over it. > > Quit

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

2025-06-12 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Thanks for the reply. On 12/06/2025 15:12, Greg wrote: On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way to set the size of the window popped up by `link view` ? You can resize it man

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: >>> I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. >>> However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way >>> to set the size of the window popped up by `link view` ? >> >> You can resize it manually by clicking and dragging the divider betwee

Re: Vulkan breakage

2025-06-12 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 00:44:54 -0400 Lenny Andreu wrote: > I have a similar problem after updating the system and first check the > permission and groups to /dev/dri > > That does not work for me, then I test removing the value of the env > var XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, and it works, I have no idea why, bu

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 12:41:34PM -, Greg wrote: Way back when I was still in high school, I had a Corona electric typewriter (it had ink cartridges you'd slip in). If you made a typo, you'd insert the correction cartridge and type over it. Quite the advancement over white-out, or that hor

Re: evince: link preview: set up size

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-12, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hello, > > I really appreciate the `link view` offered by evince. > However, I find the window too small. Is there a simple way > to set the size of the window popped up by `link view` ? You can resize it manually by clicking and dragging the divider between

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-12 Thread Felix Miata
DM composed on 2025-06-12 10:58 (UTC+0200): > schrieb Felix Miata: >> DM composed on 2025-06-09 15:03 (UTC+0200): >>> (I couldn't get Debian Trixie to start wayland session when setting >>> "nomodeset", only X11 session) >>> And in this situation: i.e. Fedora, Kernel 6.14, Wayland, I could rotat

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2024-12-08, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: >> > > I recommend Canon. I have a Canon TR4722 Pixma ink jet all-in-one printer. > Canon has drivers and a configuration script on their website. Setup and > configuration was very easy. > My experience with ink-jets are expensive.

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-11, 🦓 wrote: > > Brother.com is the ultimate American Dream in typewriters and laser > printers, says MFC-L3710CW.czyborra.com. > Way back when I was still in high school, I had a Corona electric typewriter (it had ink cartridges you'd slip in). If you made a typo, you'd insert the cor

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-12, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:17:26PM -, Greg wrote: >>I have a Brother HL-2350DW and it just worked without further ado. > > Pretty much any modern networked single-function printer will just work. > I've used canon and lexmark fairly recently, but no drive

Re: disk cache

2025-06-12 Thread Anders Andersson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 8:41 AM Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 03:26:36AM +, xuser wrote: > > Yes, i know but linux keeps locking up as soon as the cache has used most of > > the memory > > It sounds like you have some process using too much memory, or you have > faulty

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 04:17:26PM -, Greg wrote: I have a Brother HL-2350DW and it just worked without further ado. Pretty much any modern networked single-function printer will just work. I've used canon and lexmark fairly recently, but no drivers are required for any brand's printer th

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-12 Thread Joe
On Thu, 12 Jun 2025 10:58:13 +0200 DM wrote: > > I will experiment a bit more in a couple of weeks when I have more > time. And if I still don't have a solution then, I'll do that. > Not having done that before, I assume the best way would be to use > the "reportbug" tool, right? I am not sure

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-12 Thread DM
Am Montag, 9. Juni 2025, 15:57:24 CEST schrieb Felix Miata: > DM composed on 2025-06-09 15:03 (UTC+0200): > > Trixie with kernel 6.14: > > > > System: > > Kernel: 6.14.10-zabbly+ arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 > > > > clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm > > parameters: BOOT

Re: disk cache

2025-06-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 03:26:36AM +, xuser wrote: > Yes, i know but linux keeps locking up as soon as the cache has used most of > the memory It sounds like you have some process using too much memory, or you have faulty hardware. It should not behave like that unless there is something

Re: disk cache

2025-06-11 Thread xuser
Yes, i know but linux keeps locking up as soon as the cache has used most of the memory On Wed, 11 Jun 2025, Mike Castle wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2025 19:48:06 -0700 From: Mike Castle To: xuser Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: disk cache Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2025 02:48:41

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-11 Thread 🦓
Brother.com is the ultimate American Dream in typewriters and laser printers, says MFC-L3710CW.czyborra.com. Default User schrieb am Mi., 11. Juni 2025, 23:40: > FWIW, with Debian 12 Stable (Bookworm), until recently I used an HP > LaserJet M209dw laser printer (does black an white printing only

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-11 Thread Default User
FWIW, with Debian 12 Stable (Bookworm), until recently I used an HP LaserJet M209dw laser printer (does black an white printing only). Worked, except for the HP configuration and control software. IIRC,  did not need any drivers installed. IDK if it is still made. With Debian 12 Stable (Bookworm),

Re: Famous libva error: vaGetDriverNameByIndex() failed with invalid VADisplay, driver_name = (null)

2025-06-11 Thread colony . three
Well OK, it must be a bug. Filing as such. Sent from Proton Mail Android Original Message On 6/10/25 07:10, wrote: > A host at 12.10 and guest at 12.11 with GPU and its audio passed through to a > VM. The video and audio show up fine in the VM, but are unresponsive to the >

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-11 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: If you are able, please recommend a black-and-white Postscript laser printer that will work well with Debian (Bookworm). After 29 years, I'm finally, and sadly, giving up on my HP LaserJet 5MP. At work I had problems with Linux drivers for a Xerox laser, and I'm

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 5:08 AM Y Peng wrote: > > We have a Debian server that can connect to the internet in the test > environment. We installed a free Let's Encrypt SSL certificate while > connected to the internet. However, after deploying this server to the > production environment, it is sub

Re: seeking new laser printer

2025-06-11 Thread Greg
On 2024-12-08, Eddie wrote: > > > On 12/7/24 16:21, Kleene, Steven (kleenesj) wrote: >> If you are able, please recommend a black-and-white Postscript laser printer >> that will work well with Debian (Bookworm). After 29 years, I'm finally, >> and sadly, giving up on my HP LaserJet 5MP. At wor

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 02:46:26PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 05:01:33PM +0800, Y Peng wrote: > > after deploying this server to the production environment, it is > > subject to strict network isolation and cannot access the internet. > > Will the Let's Encrypt certificate

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 05:01:33PM +0800, Y Peng wrote: > after deploying this server to the production environment, it is > subject to strict network isolation and cannot access the internet. > Will the Let's Encrypt certificate remain valid for a long time if it > cannot access the internet?

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread Mal
On 11/06/2025 6:31 pm, Y Peng wrote: > Will the Let's Encrypt certificate remain valid for a long time if it > cannot access the internet? 90 days is the lifetime for LE.  You can obtain the certificate using another host connected to the Internet and then manually copy the certificate (+Key

Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-06-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Jun 10, 2025 at 9:36 PM BST, Celejar wrote: Okay - I tried running "qemu-img convert" with both "-O raw" and "-O qcow2", and I ended up with similarly sized files, about 57GB, which is the size of the actual data on the VM disk. So I'm going to continue with qcow2, and just note for future

Re: Question about letsencrypt certs

2025-06-11 Thread tomas
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 05:01:33PM +0800, Y Peng wrote: > Hello, > > We have a Debian server that can connect to the internet in the test > environment. We installed a free Let's Encrypt SSL certificate while > connected to the internet. However, after deploying this server to the > production env

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Chris Green
Dan Ritter wrote: > Chris Green wrote: > > I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that > > I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get > > it to mount with write permission? > > > > This is on debian 12. > > First, check to see if the SD card h

Re: Vulkan breakage

2025-06-10 Thread Lenny Andreu
I have a similar problem after updating the system and first check the permission and groups to /dev/dri That does not work for me, then I test removing the value of the env var XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, and it works, I have no idea why, but I test sudo -E vulkaninfo and that fails, with the same error a

Re: Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-06-10 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 10 Jun 2025 08:50:56 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Mon Jun 9, 2025 at 9:45 PM BST, Celejar wrote: > >> Can you elaborate, please? Are you recommending that I just stop using >> qcow2 going forward and stick to raw? > > > Yes, if 80GiB is sufficient within the VM. > >> My understa

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Franco Martelli
On 10/06/25 at 18:11, Chris Green wrote: I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get it to mount with write permission? This is on debian 12. Probably is already mounted read/write but you haven't w

Re: How to mount vfat filesystem read/write?

2025-06-10 Thread Dan Ritter
Chris Green wrote: > I have an SD card which is vfat formatted. There's a file on it that > I want to remove but when automounted it is read only. How can I get > it to mount with write permission? > > This is on debian 12. First, check to see if the SD card has a readonly switch. (Many SD card

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-06-09 16:24:41 +0200, Thomas Hochstein wrote: > Rules are updated by the sa-update service, started e.g. by > | systemctl enable --now spamassassin-maintenance.timer > | systemctl start spamassassin-maintenance.service > > Doing that, the scores are up to date: > | thh@angmar:~$ grep RCVD_

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-10 Thread Vincent Lefevre
ot;, one can see that this is a general behavior: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/pmg-strange-dns_block_rule-log-entries-in-mail-log.165151/ https://forum.opnsense.org/index.php?topic=40983.0 https://serverfault.com/questions/1174765/re-enabling-dns-lookup-in-spamassas

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Tue, Jun 10, 2025 at 09:34:33AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2025-06-09 16:24:41 +0200, Thomas Hochstein wrote: > > | thh@angmar:~$ grep RCVD_IN_VALIDITY > > /var/lib/spamassassin/4.01/updates_spamassassin_org/50_scores.cf > > | score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED 0 > > | score RCVD

Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-06-10 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon Jun 9, 2025 at 9:45 PM BST, Celejar wrote: Can you elaborate, please? Are you recommending that I just stop using qcow2 going forward and stick to raw? Yes, if 80GiB is sufficient within the VM. My understanding is that the former will generally be *more* space efficient, rather than *

Re: Re: Why is my VM image so large?!

2025-06-09 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 30 May 2025 09:26:12 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu May 29, 2025 at 3:20 PM BST, Celejar wrote: > >> I think I've successfully enabled TRIM/DISCARD in both the guest OS as >> well as the host libvirt configuration, and as I mentioned, I think I >> did claw back some space by doin

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-09 Thread James H. H. Lampert
On 6/7/25 1:58 PM, Bret Busby wrote: "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" I've been following this thread intermittently during my vacation. And almost immediately, this quote from Arthur C. Clarke came to mind: If an elderly but distinguished scientist

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Thomas Hochstein
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but > Debian stable is... stable. Debian stable already has the current version of SpamAssassin: | News and Announcements | | 2024-03-29: Apach

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-09 Thread Felix Miata
DM composed on 2025-06-09 15:03 (UTC+0200): > Trixie with kernel 6.14: > System: > Kernel: 6.14.10-zabbly+ arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.0 > clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm > parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-6.14.10-zabbly+ > root=/dev/mapper/capys--vg-root ro quiet i915

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-09 Thread DM
Am Samstag, 7. Juni 2025, 15:46:44 CEST schrieb Felix Miata: > Dietrich Meyer composed on 2025-06-07 04:04 (UTC+0200): > > Please provide output from inxi -GSaz booted without nomodeset and with > external display connected. It provides a friendly combination of much of > the information you alrea

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Nicolas George
Vincent Lefevre (HE12025-06-09): > Jun 09 13:07:48 joooj spamd[164780]: check: dns_block_rule > RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED hit, creating > /root/.spamassassin/dnsblock_bl.score.senderscore.com A system service accessing files in the personal directory of root? There is something seriously wro

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-06-09 08:03:58 +, Andy Smith wrote: > sa-update already picked it up: > > $ grep RCVD_IN_VALIDITY > /var/lib/spamassassin/4.01/updates_spamassassin_org/50_scores.cf > score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED 0 > score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE 0 > score RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL 0 > #score RCVD_

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 08:07:37AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 08:03:58AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > > > I think so. I think the general e

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 08:03:58AM +, Andy Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > I think so. I think the general expectation of spamassassin is that you > use a release for a long time

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-09 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jun 09, 2025 at 01:18:37AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? I think so. I think the general expectation of spamassassin is that you use a release for a long time. > The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, bu

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread longwind2
Thank Paoli and Butterworth! I will try rc1 anyway.

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2025-06-09 02:58:07 +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > El 9/6/25 a las 1:18, Vincent Lefevre escribió: > > Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? > > > > The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but > > Debian stable is... stable. > > Look at the version number

Re: spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Santiago Vila
El 9/6/25 a las 1:18, Vincent Lefevre escribió: Is the spamassassin Debian package unsafe to use in stable? The issue is that things related to spam evolves rapidly, but Debian stable is... stable. Look at the version numbers: spamassassin | 4.0.1-1~deb12u1| stable | sou

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread nsrxnst
please observe the code of conduct On June 8, 2025 11:46:24 AM EDT, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett wrote: > >> >> My next door neighbor about 20 years >> younger took the first shot and within about 90 days lost half a lung. >> Today there are folks in

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sun, Jun 8, 2025 at 9:30 AM wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? > I upgraded all of my systems to Trixie already. It is pretty stable no major upgrades in versions any more. If you are tech savvy then you may want to install Trixie now. Who knows you may find a bug

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, June 07, 2025 04:58:04 PM Bret Busby wrote: > "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" > - https://www.history.com People once believed that a person could not travel on an (old fashioned steam engine train) as at such high speeds (20-30 mph??) the b

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett wrote: > > My next door neighbor about 20 years > younger took the first shot and within about 90 days lost half a lung. > Today there are folks in their 40's and 50's here in northern WV falling > over at 2 to 4 a day, twice the rate compared to a de

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
As is oft said of Debian: Debian releases when it's darn good and ready. :-) This is unlike many other distros, which release like clockwork, ready or not. Though for many years now, Debian has had a schedule on at least certain freezes. So that does at least give one indications when test star

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-08 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-07, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> No amount of wishful thinking will persuade the universe to change the laws >> of >> physics. >> > "Engineers once believed flying at the speed of sound would be impossible" > - https://www.history.com It seems wormholes are theoretically possible and con

Community Team: End this thread, please WAS Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such

2025-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
An immediate end to this thread, please. There have been two complaints to the Community Team recently about conduct on this list and, specifically, within this thread. Please stop contributing to this thread immediately. Please do not attempt to revive it. One of the important principles on th

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread longwind2
Thank Ritter and Cater very much! I haven't been able to absorb all details you give as my time is very limited, I give up. i wait patiently for Trixie news many years of experience with debian have taught me there may not be much excitement with new release after all

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Jun 08, 2025 at 08:02:43AM +, longwi...@yahoo.com wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? > > where can I find such info? > > freebsd seem more transparent in this regard: > > www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/ > Hi longwind2, This deserves a longer answ

Re: when will trixie become stable?

2025-06-08 Thread Dan Ritter
longwi...@yahoo.com wrote: > how big is difference between rc1 and final release? 42* > where can I find such info? > > freebsd seem more transparent in this regard: > > www.freebsd.org/releases/14.3R/schedule/ FreeBSD isn't more transparent; FreeBSD has a different policy. They have target

Re: EFI system partition

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
all the particularly critical/important data is RAID-1 protected (though for EFI, I have to manually replicate that between the two drives, but that's easy enough). And of course when (re)installing GRUB, I have to remember to do it for both drives ... but the more routine GRUB configuration up

Re: Solutions to notify desktop users of new Debian releases

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
Uhm, and/or (@lists.debian.org): debian-security-announce debian-stable-announce debian-news debian-announce (as you'd mentioned) gee, and then there's also LTS, and various languages, and ... don't want to hammer installing users with too many questions (Debian already gets enough complaints about

Re: virt-manager and networking

2025-06-08 Thread Michael Paoli
Yes, mostly as others have reported in replies to your post. The key bit is bridge - and I suspect this will never become the as-shipped configuration by default, because of potential complications, security, etc. So bridge, you'll almost certainly need the relevant package(s), e.g. bridge-utils.

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Andy Smith
It's bad enough that this small group of selfish people feel that the rest of us and the archives needs tens of messages of them debating relativity with each other, but… On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 10:55:20PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > Considering that shot has killed well over a million to date …

Re: Debian locking up

2025-06-07 Thread xuser
Seems that setting to memory to 768MB fixes it On Wed, 4 Jun 2025, xuser wrote: Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 22:53:01 + (UTC) From: xuser To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian locking up Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 22:53:31 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org My de

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 9:56 PM gene heskett wrote: > On 6/7/25 19:14, Van Snyder wrote: > > On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 13:19 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > >> People who make you > >> actually think are the best. Not because they teach facts, but > >> because > >> they make you think and reach your own op

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/25 19:14, Van Snyder wrote: On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 13:19 -0400, gene heskett wrote: People who make you actually think are the best. Not because they teach facts, but because they make you think and reach your own opinion. Read John Droz Jr's columns about critical thinking at https://cri

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread John Hasler
Van Snyder writes: >Radation has mass, as can be seen from m = E/c^2. Radiation has momentum but no mass. The correct full equation is E^2 = (p^2)*(c^2) + (m^2)*(c^4) where E is energy, p is momentum, c is the speed of light in a vacuum, and m is rest mass. For massive particles moving at low

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 17:23 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > Based on those documents, can you describe "how it works"?  The > documents don't.  They just assert that all radiation reduces the > mass of the black hole.  How is that reduction accomplished?  Radation has mass, as can be seen from m = E/c

Re: Trixie Kernel 6.12.30 missing wl WiFi driver

2025-06-07 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 3:34 PM Timothy M Butterworth < timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com> wrote: > hello, > > I just upgraded my MacBook Air to Kernel 6.12.30 and the WiFi no longer > works. It works fine on 6.12.27. It appears the wl driver is missing from > kernel 6.12.30. > > 6.12.27-amd64 > lspc

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 14:05 -0400, Lee Winter wrote: > An example of that kind of dislocation is Steven Hawking. > > Clearly he was quite brilliant.  But just as clearly (according to > me) he was quite WRONG about what is now known as "Hawking > radiation". > > The issue is that he predicted the

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 13:19 -0400, gene heskett wrote: > People who make you > actually think are the best. Not because they teach facts, but > because > they make you think and reach your own opinion. Read John Droz Jr's columns about critical thinking at https://criticallythinking.substack.com

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Lee Winter
Based on those documents, can you describe "how it works"? The documents don't. They just assert that all radiation reduces the mass of the black hole. How is that reduction accomplished? On Sat, Jun 7, 2025 at 4:45 PM John Hasler wrote: > Lee Winter writes: > > The issue is that he predicted

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Bret Busby
On 7/6/25 21:05, Alain D D Williams wrote: On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 08:32:55PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: You could not reach the speed of light Ah, yes, ... and man can never fly... We are bound by the laws of physics, just because you really, really, really want to dodge round them does not

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread John Hasler
Lee Winter writes: > The issue is that he predicted the "evaporation" of black holes by > some quantum events near the event horizon. But if you look at it > carefully you have some quantum recipe for depositing some exotic > (negative mass) objects into the black hole. It doesn't have to be > ma

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Federico Kircheis
On 07/06/2025 9:02 pm, Federico Kircheis wrote: On 07/06/2025 7:12 pm, Luca Saiu wrote: On 2025-05-25 at 16:30 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: But dx is still packaged for Debian, it's part of the dalvik-exchange package, It would be nice but unfortunately no, per dalvik-exchange 10.0.0+r36-

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Federico Kircheis
On 07/06/2025 7:12 pm, Luca Saiu wrote: On 2025-05-25 at 16:30 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: But dx is still packaged for Debian, it's part of the dalvik-exchange package, It would be nice but unfortunately no, per dalvik-exchange 10.0.0+r36-4 . After installing it I see: [luca@hennessy ~

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/25 06:30, Bret Busby wrote: On 7/6/25 18:14, Bret Busby wrote: On 7/6/25 17:26, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote: It is all relative... Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent people who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystro

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Lee Winter
An example of that kind of dislocation is Steven Hawking. Clearly he was quite brilliant. But just as clearly (according to me) he was quite WRONG about what is now known as "Hawking radiation". The issue is that he predicted the "evaporation" of black holes by some quantum events near the event

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 05:11:26PM +, Luca Saiu wrote: [...] > On 2025-05-20 at 14:40 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > My hunch is that the "-23" in your package name hints at a version > > number which might be obsolete. But I don't know. > > Now, that is incorrect. They chose to pack

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2025-05-25 at 22:00 +0200, Csányi Pál wrote: > I see, but when I install, say, the Google's Android SDK Build-Tools > 23.0.1 Installer (aapt, aidl, dexdump, dx) package, then apt, or > Synaptic package manager will remove the following debian packages: Those “-installer” packages seem to be th

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Luca Saiu
On 2025-05-25 at 16:30 +0200, Federico Kircheis wrote: > But dx is still packaged for Debian, it's part of the dalvik-exchange package, It would be nice but unfortunately no, per dalvik-exchange 10.0.0+r36-4 . After installing it I see: [luca@hennessy ~]$ dpkg -S dalvik-exchange dalvik-exchange

Re: Building an Android app using only Android SDK and development tools already available in Debian

2025-06-07 Thread Luca Saiu
Hello. I found this thread when attempting to follow the turorial at https://wiki.debian.org/AndroidTools/IntroBuildingApps , like the original poster. On 2025-05-20 at 14:40 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > My hunch is that the "-23" in your package name hints at a version > number which might

Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/25 06:16, Bret Busby wrote: On 7/6/25 17:26, gene heskett wrote: On 6/7/25 02:52, Bret Busby wrote: It is all relative... Yes it is, but you would be amazed at the supposedly intelligent people who will argue the a 5 foot long low uhf band klystron amplifier as used until the 1985 ti

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Van Snyder
On Sat, 2025-06-07 at 14:05 +0100, Alain D D Williams wrote: > No one ever said that talking computers were impossible. Yes: we did > not know > how to do it, tech has since progressed. So how is this relevant ? IBM introduced the 7770 and 7772 Audio Response Units in January 1964. The computer to

Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Greg
On 2025-06-06, Andy Smith wrote: > > $ env | grep XDG_ > This command is much more informative than Dan Ritter's (which revealed nothing here). I mean, just saying. XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=LXDE

Re: virt-manager and networking

2025-06-07 Thread john doe
On 6/6/25 20:10, Charles Curley wrote: I'm setting up a new machine running trixie to run virtual machines, using virt-manager. virt-manager sets up a natted network for the virtual machines. Is it possible to set things up so that the virtual machines are on the same network as the host machine

Re: Need help: internal display of 8" mini laptop blank, only external HDMI display working

2025-06-07 Thread Felix Miata
Dietrich Meyer composed on 2025-06-07 04:04 (UTC+0200): Please provide output from inxi -GSaz booted without nomodeset and with external display connected. It provides a friendly combination of much of the information you already provided, and may provide additional value. > I am trying to instal

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Alain D D Williams
On Sat, Jun 07, 2025 at 09:22:11PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > > No amount of wishful thinking will persuade the universe to change the laws > > of > > physics. > > > > So, you contend that "the universe" is a cognitive entity? No. My use of the word "persuade" was figurative. -- Alain Willia

Re: OT - The impossibility of impossibility - Re: OT- Relativistic mechanics and such - was - Re: tbird problem

2025-06-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Sat, Jun 7, 2025, 7:34 AM Bret Busby wrote: > > And, remember - the breaking of the enigma code, was regarded as > impossible, and, without the trying to break the code, and, the actions > of Alan Turing and Joan Clark and their team, we would not have these > devices named electronic computer

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