Re: Checking for a mount in a shell script (Was: Re: Preparing for Debian 13)

2025-05-18 Thread Default User
Thanks, Andy! I'll give it a try.

Checking for a mount in a shell script (Was: Re: Preparing for Debian 13)

2025-05-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:47:25PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Since I know almost no shell scripting, the rsync usb drive A  > to usb drive B copy is done with a simple bash script consisting > only of the rsync backup command, with options and parameters, but > without any code to verify t

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-18 Thread Default User
Hi, OP again. 1) Regarding: "Its unclear to me from OP's message whether OP actually wants to solve the partition sizing issue or is just complaining about it and THEN asking for unrelated Debian 13 upgrade tips." I originally posted asking for general advice about upgrading to Debian 13 Stabl

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-18 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, May 18, 2025 at 12:26:21PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-05-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > I found it easiest to just run the installer and say - use LVM, all files > > in one partition. > > Is there no rapidity cost on lower-end machines? > IME, there is not a cost that can be dete

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-18 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > I found it easiest to just run the installer and say - use LVM, all files > in one partition. Is there no rapidity cost on lower-end machines? > that give you a boot partition and everything else in one partition. > > It Just Works (for high values of

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 03:16:53PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:56:11PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > Concerning the points raised: > > I still did not see any statement of which concrete problems or issues > you did actually want to tackle. For example it is a w

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 06:56:11PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Concerning the points raised: I still did not see any statement of which concrete problems or issues you did actually want to tackle. For example it is a waste of time people giving advice about the upgrade route if you have deci

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
Default User writes: > 1) sudo df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/nvme0n1p2 23G 8.7G 13G 41% / > /dev/nvme0n1p5 1.8G 140K 1.7G 1% /tmp Why not enable tmp.mount (tmpfs)? In most use cases, /tmp is not really utilized much – pointless to waste 2 GB of valua

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread Greg
On 2025-05-16, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Richmond wrote: >> /var can grow significantly over time due to logs, databases, and other >> persistent services, so I can understand why someone might put it on its >> own partition. > > When we're talking about

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-17 Thread David Christensen
On 5/16/25 15:56, Default User wrote: Hi. Thanks for the replies! Concerning the points raised: 1) sudo df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/nvme0n1p2 23G 8.7G 13G 41% / /dev/nvme0n1p5 1.8G 140K 1.7G 1% /tmp /dev/nvme0n1p6 199G 53G 136G 28% /home /dev/nvm

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Anssi Saari
xuser writes: > No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it. As I recall, Intel has played with virtualization support a lot. Disable virtualization on some low end CPUs just to piss people off. Or really, to "differentiate the different product lines" or some such marketing bullshit.

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 16 May 2025 18:56:11 -0400 Default User wrote: > Fun fact: I use rsync to do backups to and external usb hard drive. If > the external drive is not connected, rsync will, without any notice, > proceed to create a backup directory under /media, with the name of > the unconnected backup dri

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Default User
Hi. Thanks for the replies! Concerning the points raised: 1) sudo df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/nvme0n1p2 23G 8.7G 13G 41% / /dev/nvme0n1p5 1.8G 140K 1.7G 1% /tmp /dev/nvme0n1p6 199G 53G 136G 28% /home /dev/nvme0n1p3 9.1G 2.9G 5.8G 34% /var /dev/

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Richmond wrote: > /var can grow significantly over time due to logs, databases, and other > persistent services, so I can understand why someone might put it on its > own partition. When we're talking about single user workstations and laptops though,

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Frank Guthausen
On Fri, 16 May 2025 11:50:41 +0100 Richmond wrote: > > Recently I created a virtual machine with qemu and virt-manager, and > unknown to me by default it creates the virtual disk in /var. As this > was not on its own partion but in the same as / it happily filled the > root partition and I got in

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread xuser
No virtualization?, my 15 year old dell e6500 has it. On Thu, 15 May 2025, Default User wrote: Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 17:30:51 -0400 From: Default User To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Preparing for Debian 13 Resent-Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 21:31:19 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Richmond
Roberto C. Sánchez writes: > It's a bit late at this point, but why did you split your installation > into different partitions, fixed partitions no less, on a laptop with a > single disk? That's the sort of thing you do with a server where you > have RAID, LVM, and possibly other advanced storag

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 16 May 2025 09:34:30 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  > > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  > > (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  > > Intel Cor

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Hi. > > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  > (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  > Intel Core i3 processor.  > 8Gb ram. > UEFI booting. > Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-16 Thread Anssi Saari
Default User writes: > Since Debian 13 should soon be released, what should I be doing  > ahead of time to prepare for the upgrade? For me, upgrading is  > always a major hassle, so I try to make it as easy as possible. The release page is here: https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ There'

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-15 Thread David Christensen
On 5/15/25 14:30, Default User wrote: Hi. I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64. Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current (2023) low-end Dell laptop. Intel Core i3 processor. 8Gb ram. UEFI booting. Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for mass storage. Partitions: nvme0n1 259:0

Re: Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-15 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 15, 2025 at 05:30:51PM -0400, Default User wrote: > Hi. > > I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  > Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  > (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  > Intel Core i3 processor.  > 8Gb ram. > UEFI booting. > Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for

Preparing for Debian 13

2025-05-15 Thread Default User
Hi. I currently run Debian 12 Stable, amd64.  Unexceptional single-user SOHO setup on a relatively current  (2023) low-end Dell laptop.  Intel Core i3 processor.  8Gb ram. UEFI booting. Internal nvme SSD, 256 Gb, for mass storage. Partitions: nvme0n1 259:00 238.5G 0 disk ├─nvme0n1p1 2