Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 7:12 PM Van Snyder wrote: > > KDE discover put a popup on my screen saying there are updates available. > > I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." "apt update" just gets the latest package info "apt l

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On 24/04/2025 03:54, Van Snyder wrote: I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the little red dot and Discover said there were 250 updates occupying 454 MB. What does apt list --upgradable s

Re: apt update vs. KDE Discover?

On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 at 20:54, Van Snyder wrote: > > KDE discover put a popup on my screen saying there are updates available. > > I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." > > So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the li

apt update vs. KDE Discover?

KDE discover put a popup on my screen saying there are updates available. I ran "apt update" and it said "nothing to see here; move on." So I pushed the little button in the tool tray with the little red dot and Discover said there were 250 updates occupying 454 MB.

Re: replacement for apt-xapian-index?

On 16/04/2025 08:36, Mike Kupfer wrote: I see that apt-xapian-index has been removed from Debian (and it looks like Ubuntu, too). I can't say I entirely understand the reasons for the removal. Perhaps the package has no maintainer. Moreover debtags have been abandoned. After reading

Re: add-apt-repository broken

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 10:27 PM Van Snyder wrote: > I'm using Debian 12. > > I tried to add a PPA repository but it failed: > PPA's are an Ubuntu creation and do not work on Debian. > > root@Blue:~# add-apt-repository ppa:mkusb/ppa > Traceback (most recent c

add-apt-repository broken

I'm using Debian 12. I tried to add a PPA repository but it failed: root@Blue:~# add-apt-repository ppa:mkusb/ppa Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/add-apt-repository", line 362, in sys.exit(0 if addaptrepo.main() else 1) ^ File "/usr/bi

Re: add-apt-repository broken

On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 02:38:38PM -0700, Van Snyder wrote: > I'm using Debian 12. > > I tried to add a PPA repository but it failed: > PPAs are primarily for Ubuntu and only used in Ubuntu. There's every likelihood that you can't use this one with Debian. You might try asking Joern Shoenyan ht

Re: add-apt-repository broken

Am 17.04.25 um 23:38 schrieb Van Snyder: I'm using Debian 12. I tried to add a PPA repository but it failed: PPAs are an Ubuntu thing.

Re: replacement for apt-xapian-index?

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:36:14 -0700 Mike Kupfer wrote: > I see that apt-xapian-index has been removed from Debian (and it looks > like Ubuntu, too). I can't say I entirely understand the reasons for > the removal. At least one justification that was given for Ubuntu is &

Re: replacement for apt-xapian-index?

Mike Kupfer wrote: > I see that apt-xapian-index has been removed from Debian Sorry, I should clarify: it's been removed from Testing (Trixie). It's still in older releases, of course. mike

replacement for apt-xapian-index?

I see that apt-xapian-index has been removed from Debian (and it looks like Ubuntu, too). I can't say I entirely understand the reasons for the removal. At least one justification that was given for Ubuntu is the poor user experience for Synaptic when the index is being rebuilt. And wh

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 10:56:47AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:45:32 +0100 > wrote: > > Hello to...@tuxteam.de, > > >I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > {snipped} > > Okay, fair enough. I'm new to

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On 2025-03-13, wrote: > > You don't need apt-file update anymore. Apt update or apt-get update do > the trick. (Apt-file update won't hurt, though). Maybe you could fix the wiki in this case. https://wiki.debian.org/apt-file

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 04:29:56PM -, Greg wrote: > On 2025-03-13, wrote: > > > > I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > > that job, too (I was always wondering to find my apt-file database > > up to date and suspected some well

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On 2025-03-13, wrote: > > I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does > that job, too (I was always wondering to find my apt-file database > up to date and suspected some well-meaning cron job, but that seems > to be the secret :-) apt-get update o

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 11:45:32 +0100 wrote: Hello to...@tuxteam.de, >I thought that too, but according to the man page, apt-get update does {snipped} Okay, fair enough. I'm new to apt-file so haven't fully absorbed all required knowledge yet. >Hanlon's Corollary: it's

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 09:19:12AM +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:59:49 +0200 > Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Hello Henrik, > > >> Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? > >Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, c

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 10:59:49 +0200 Henrik Ahlgren wrote: Hello Henrik, >> Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? >Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct? apt-*file* update (emphasis is mine), surely? -- Regards _ "Valid si

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

Modaresi Soft Hard writes: > I added our Repo to sources.list.d/ > > Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? Just to confirm, you ran `apt-get update` before that, correct?

Re: Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 02:13:05AM +, Modaresi Soft Hard wrote: > We created several packages in > https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:celenity (OBS) Apt-file relies on the Contents file, which your repository must provide (possibly you have to tell your instance of apt-file

Why installed files of my package doen't show with apt-file

We created several packages in https://build.opensuse.org/project/show/home:celenity (OBS) I added our Repo to sources.list.d/ Why when I run `apt-file show phoenix` nothing happens? What should I observe in the packaging? You can download deb files and the files we use to create a deb

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-06[Thu]15:23 🦓 read that 2025-03-06[Thu]08:38 Geoff wrote You can use dpigs from debian-goodies package: debian-goodies' dpigs does a great job: debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ dpigs -H 142.3M libgl1-mesa-dri 79.3M libpython3.7-dev 65.2M emacs-common 57.7M libllvm7 43.1M guile-2.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Greg Wooledge writes: > Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing > packages? > > For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's > because *data* files are piling up, and may be in need of some trimming. Pro tip: running &q

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 23:26:55 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > 2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that > 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote > > That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which > > you can get from . It's in perl. > > Wow! Looks backward comp

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07[Fri]23:27 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]10:20 Jonathan Dowland wrote I favour "duc" (as opposed to, e.g. ncdu) duc index / duc ui / There are several duc browsers: ui is an ncurses-style TUI; there's also CLI, GUI and web-based ones. The GUI and web-based ones use a nice

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-07[Fri]23:14 🦓 read that 2025-03-07[Fri]07:21 Greg Wooledge wrote That's conceptually similar to the little program that I wrote, which you can get from . It's in perl. Wow! Looks backward compatible with perl4.036 - what do i need to write to make ds i

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? i run apt-get

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 10:20:30 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > For Debian packages specifically, you can use dpigs from the debian-goodies > package. I wrote an alternative for situations where I don't want to install > debian-goodies and its transitive dependencies: > > awk -v RS='' '/St

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Wed Mar 5, 2025 at 2:22 PM GMT, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigab

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 at 15:46, Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > > Pro tip: running "sudo apt clean" often frees up significant disk space > (relatively, in machines with tiny storage capacity) by removing all > cached package files from /var/cache/apt/archives. Hi, another pro-tip

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

> manager that goes through all of said requirements and removes them if > they now have no dependents. That's what "apt autoremove" is supposed to do. Use at your own risk.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On 3/6/25 00:21, David Wright wrote: On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and wh

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 15:21:32 +0100, 🦓 wrote: > what would i want to sudo aptitude purge here to free 1 gig? Why are you assuming that the space you want can be freed by removing packages? For the vast majority of people, if disk space is running low, it's because *data* files are piling up, a

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

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Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: > On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > &g

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

🦓 wrote: sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n t

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? deborpha

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

-hl / > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/mmcblk0p1 11G 8.7G 1.1G 90% / > > my pip3 install vosk had failed before even starting any install. > > my sudo apt install ncdu cost me 0.000981GB. > > bloats identified by ncd

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Op wo 5 mrt 2025 om 18:05 schreef 🦓 : > my sudo apt install ncdu cost me 0.000981GB. > Merely 0.981GB alias 98K.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

rting any install. my sudo apt install ncdu cost me 0.000981GB. bloats identified by ncdu -x / are --- /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu 99.4 MiB [##] libQt5WebEngineCore.so.5.11.3 57.7 MiB [# ] libLLVM-7.so.1 44.7 MiB [ ] /guile 33.0 MiB [### ] /dri 25.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

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Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On 2025-03-05 07:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Start by

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

Le 3/5/25 à 15:22, Runamile Czyborra a écrit : my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Clea

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:22:15PM +0100, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to > ergonomically present installed candidates to

how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes?

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Le 3/3/25 à 16:40, Greg Wooledge a écrit : On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: dpkg won't install missing dependencies. gdebi will. So will apt-get and apt. It's just undocumented. apt install ./filename.deb apt-get install ./filename.deb The pathname

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 03/03/2025 11:49, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Counter Proposal: Ask whomever is providing you the packge, to offer it as a Debian Repository. That way, your custom application is just a "extrepo enable " away. OpenPGP_signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 15:44:11 +0100, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : > > You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...] > > dpkg won't install missing dependencies. > gdebi will. So will apt-get and apt. It&#x

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial task. I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple. So I'd say it depends on the software. Sometimes you're missing header files, in which case configure kindly shows you exac

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 3/3/25 15:42, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can also compile software source code[...]> This is not a trivial task. I find configure, make, sudo make install often very simple. So I'd say it depends on the software. Sometimes you're missing header files, in

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Le 3/3/25 à 15:25, Joe a écrit : You can install any random .deb package from any source using dpkg [...] dpkg won't install missing dependencies. gdebi will. Best, -- yassine -- sysadm http://about.me/ychaouche Looking for side gigs.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 8:22 AM Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > > On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote: > > I would like this feature in apt-get. > > This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are > installed with root privileges, however, many systems are

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 3/3/25 7:10 AM, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is empowered to do what you ask. The proper procedure would be to report it as a

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Exactly *WHAT* feature?? You supply *NO* context. Also this list is primarily user-to-user support.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 3/3/25 6:56 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:14:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Exactly *WHAT* feature?? You supply *NO* context. This is why I advise people NOT to put the

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On 3/3/25 12:49, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. This is a disaster feature from my point of view. Debian packages are installed with root privileges, however, many systems are configured to allow users to use sudo to install packages from configured and trusted

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Hi, On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 12:49:11PM +0100, Steven Speek wrote: > I would like this feature in apt-get. Since this is just a mailing list of Debian users, no one here is empowered to do what you ask. The proper procedure would be to report it as a wishlist bug on apt-get in the Debian

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Le 3/3/25 à 13:14, Richard Owlett a écrit : On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: I would like this feature in apt-get. Exactly *WHAT* feature?? You supply *NO* context. Also this list is primarily user-to-user support. Happy now? Look how angry you made Steven Speek now

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 06:14:40 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 3/3/25 5:49 AM, Steven Speek wrote: > > I would like this feature in apt-get. > > > > Exactly *WHAT* feature?? > You supply *NO* context. This is why I advise people NOT to put the detai

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

Steven Speek wrote: > I would like this feature in apt-get. Until then, you can use wget to retrieve the URL and apt install to install from the filename. In general, this is rather dangerous, and should probably be avoided. There may be better solutions, depending on the context of where th

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

I would like this feature in apt-get.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > > > And for those who are wondering, this is going on in trixie. [...] > The quick fix in sources.list for debian is to add signed-by into > existing lines after deb or deb-src: > > deb \ > [

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 09:38:42 -0500 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 14:25:51 -, Greg wrote: > > I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of > > apt sources. > > > > I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to m

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

gt;>I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt >>sources. >> >>I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to modernize, or is the modern >>method intended for some future date? As everything works nicely on this >>new install

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On 2025-02-08, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 14:25:51 -, Greg wrote: >> I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt >> sources. >> >> I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to modernize, or is the modern &g

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 14:25:51 -, Greg wrote: > I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt > sources. > > I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to modernize, or is the modern > method intended for some future date? As everything w

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 02:25:51PM -, Greg wrote: On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as suppliers upgrade what they ship. I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt sources. I

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:25:51 - (UTC) Greg wrote: > On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: > > > > I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as > > suppliers upgrade what they ship. > > I haven't been following the long thread abo

Re: Modernizing apt sources files

On 2025-02-06, Charles Curley wrote: > > I suspect we'll be living with mixed .list and .sources files as > suppliers upgrade what they ship. I haven't been following the long thread about the modernization of apt sources. I'm running Bookworm. Is it recommended to mod

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

how you the > relevant sources. Thanks for pointing that out. I expect Synaptic will be updated in the near future, and then there will be no issues at all. I am please the issue was reported, just in case it had not been picked up by the Synaptic team. One thing I like about Debian, is Ap

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

to copy the backup files created during the modernization back to their original names. E.g: cd /etc/apt cp -p sources.list.bak sources.list and then get rid of the modernized files: find -type f -iname '*.sources' | xargs rm -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

George at Clug wrote: > > 4) Do you know of any method to "undo" this modernization? You can do it by hand, or write a small script to produce the one-line format from the deb822 format. Here's one I haven't tested: https://github.com/ErikMichelson/apt-deb822-tool -dsr-

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

at Clug wrote: > > > > On Saturday, 08-02-2025 at 00:39 Boyan Penkov wrote: > > After upgrading apt this week on testing (trixie), it defaults to the > > apt822 sources > > (https://repolib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/deb822-format.html#deb822-format), > > which ca

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

On Sat, Feb 08, 2025 at 01:13:28 +1100, George at Clug wrote: > On Saturday, 08-02-2025 at 00:39 Boyan Penkov wrote: > > After upgrading apt this week on testing (trixie), it defaults to the > > apt822 sources > > (https://repolib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/deb822-form

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

On Saturday, 08-02-2025 at 00:39 Boyan Penkov wrote: > After upgrading apt this week on testing (trixie), it defaults to the > apt822 sources > (https://repolib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/deb822-format.html#deb822-format), > which can then be enabled by a ``sudo apt modernize-sourc

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

After upgrading apt this week on testing (trixie), it defaults to the apt822 sources (https://repolib.readthedocs.io/en/latest/deb822-format.html#deb822-format), which can then be enabled by a ``sudo apt modernize-sources`` However, in Synaptic, clicking on Settings -> Repositories shows a bl

Re: Synaptic and updated apt sources?

On Friday, 07-02-2025 at 19:23 Boyan Penkov wrote: > Hello, > > After updating my apt sources to the modernized ones, the synaptic > settings ard preferences are blank (and don't show the usual sources). If you could give some more detail, I might understand what you did?

Synaptic and updated apt sources?

Hello, After updating my apt sources to the modernized ones, the synaptic settings ard preferences are blank (and don't show the usual sources). Updates and selection though the program still works fine, so I imagine this is a small oversight somewhere... Cheers! -- Boyan Penkov

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

y. That you'll probably have to add on your own. It even tells you that! # apt modernize-sources The following files need modernizing: - /etc/apt/sources.list Yup. Thank you. However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. I don't understand what it is you're looking f

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

Also, there is https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList . Regards, Jörg.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:27:54AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > Charles Curley wrote: > > Another option would be to retain all comments, and let the user > > manually convert commented out entries. Simple, easy to do, and only a > > little obnoxious for the user. > > > > And for those who are

Modernizing apt sources files

With the previous discussion on modernizing one's apt sources files, I went ahead and did it on two of my trixie installations. The two original sources files were preserved, which might be useful for some oddball installations. Note that sources.list, which resides in /etc/apt, is replac

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 08:53:49 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1094784 -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 15:30:02 + Joe wrote: > Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome-beta.list > - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/goo

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

ng through this process the comments in >> sources.list were discarded. > > I think this behaviour is unlikely to change unless you report a bug > about it. there are so many bugs filed against apt that something like this has about zero chance of being noticed or changed. also i just trie

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

> > It even tells you that! > > # apt modernize-sources > The following files need modernizing: >- /etc/apt/sources.list Yup. Thank you. However, it is not in the man page for apt or apt-get. -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 10:22:17AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed to be an 'apt modernize-sources' sub-command, w

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

nge.com/questions/790122/any-shell-script-to-update-to-the-deb822-sources-format What I didn't notice further down the page was: Why in the world bother making your own scripts when you can just do # apt modernize-sources The following files need modernizing: - /etc/apt/sources.list.d/go

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

gt; yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people > scrambling to convert at the last minute. I haven't seen this hit yet (though I probably will next time I dist-upgrade against testing), but a comment in bug #1094263 leads me to suspect that there is now supposed t

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 08:09:37AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to convert at the last minute. Yes, current version prompts on what to do.

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 14:51:17 + Joe wrote: > The long-term fix is a file standard.sources root:root 644 in > /etc/sources.list.d containing: Is there anything that tells one how to make this conversion? Better yet, a script or two to do it for us? There will be a lot of people scrambling to co

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

hem their own sources.list.d/.sources files e.g. opera-stable.sources, dmo.sources (deb-multimedia.org). Note that some upgrades may place/maintain .list files in sources.list.d, as was formerly customary. This will again cause the double source error, the new file should be checked and if necessary an

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Feb 06, 2025, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > > Andy Smith wrote: > > > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for other

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On 2/6/25 8:20 AM, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted in

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + > Andy Smith wrote: > > > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > >

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 07:53:07 + Andy Smith wrote: > Having said that, I am not sure how the complaint could be addressed > since from what I understand you are basically asking for otherwise > valid but commented-out sources.list lines to be converted into > inactive deb822 files, which seems l

Re: testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

Hi, On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 01:51:49AM -0500, songbird wrote: > when doing the upgrade you do have the option of doing > a test run to see what changes are made or not making the > changes at that time. > > when going through this process the comments in > sources.list were discarded. I thin

testing apt upgrade 2.9.23 to 2.9.26 changes to sources.list

but i normally kept different entries commented out if i wasn't using them and then when i needed them i could uncomment them out, run apt-get update and then continue on with what i needed to accomplish. the new format allows for a flag to toggle the entry being active or not. without those comm

Re: How to find installed packages not in APT?

It's documented in the man page of apt-patterns. Regards, Jörg.

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