Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 17:04:12 (-0500), Eben King wrote: > On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use > > to ergonomically present installed candid

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: [...] > "Password" boxes have been asterisks for 25 or 30 years by now; not sure > what you're really going on about there .. OP's still right that this is idiotic security theater most of the time. Cheers -- t signature.asc Descr

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > With Synaptic, I tried reinstallation of Evolution, but that did not > change the response. > > Evolution has a dozen or so dependencies, so a complete removal may > wreck my computer. > > My past messages (few of which have vaulu

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/03/2025 23:33, Greg wrote: Given the cryptic nature of its results and the fact that a positive result implies that the test itself can be a factor in precipitating the very failure it intends to preclude, I see no reason to run this program, which seems to produce more confusion than anyth

Re: pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/03/2025 07:09, Gerard ROBIN wrote: xdg-mime query default image/png com.github.jeromerobert.pdfarranger.desktop I am currently using Trixie and have uninstalled and reinstalled pdfarranger. So you have several applications installed that may handle PNG files. Which way should other app

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
With Synaptic, I tried reinstallation of Evolution, but that did not change the response. Evolution has a dozen or so dependencies, so a complete removal may wreck my computer. My past messages (few of which have vaulue) are saved in local files, and there are a bunch of new messages on the Host

Re: Re: pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-05 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Thanks for your reply. xdg-mime query default image/png com.github.jeromerobert.pdfarranger.desktop I am currently using Trixie and have uninstalled and reinstalled pdfarranger. -- Gerard __ ** Created with Mutt 2.2.13 under Debian Linux TRIXI

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread David Wright
On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 21:12:32 (+), Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > > > The "Mail Authentication Request" has only a blank (already filled in) > > > for a password which (very stupidly) is shown as a line of dots, > > > rather than in pl

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Geoff
🦓 wrote: sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n t

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
Hi, Cindy. My immediate concern is to receive messages coming into "mail...@alysonwonderland.org". I have been occupied with other issues, but it just occurred to me to check the file manager of CPanel for alysonwonderland.org to see if perhaps I might download messages by some other means, and

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Eben King
On 3/5/25 09:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? deborphan --show-section --sh

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 01:51 +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages.  Also, it gives me a second mail address. > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Request" popup which preve

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:46:01PM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: The "Mail Authentication Request" has only a blank (already filled in) for a password which (very stupidly) is shown as a line of dots, rather than in plain text. Foolish paranoia! The password is protected (from what threat?), even a

[SOLVED] Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Titus Newswanger
I got out the old VGA monitor and plugged it via adapter into the other DP plug. No change except ssh into it and notice inxi reports I got 2 monitors running now. Uninstalled xfce and installed gnome; no go. Now I think about my headless M700 print server connecting a couple usb printers to

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 05, 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 05:38:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: > > er, "second" address, just from a MUA? > > I should have said that an extra email address is handly to have. > Sorry for the confusion. > > > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
sudo aptitude purge libqt5webengine5 blackmailed me to purge qutebrowser now. sudo aptitude purge libllvm7 demands i pure ffmpeg links2 xorg. sudo aptitude search l10n local | grep ^i finds no localedef. sudo aptitude purge liblocale-gettext-perl also purges console-setup debconf-i18n tasksel xorg.

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-05 Thread Tim Woodall
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025, Nicolas George wrote: to...@tuxteam.de (HE12025-03-04): Very often, getting the newer Debian source package (just apt-get source) and building it (dpkg-buildpackage) after having installed the build dependencies (apt-get build-depends) is all you need to have a self built ba

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 3/5/25 12:06, Felix Miata wrote: When you need to put console terminal (vtty) output in an email or forum post, redirect its output to a plain text file, from which you can copy & paste without losing its precious formatting. Just remember the command itself doesn't reach the file, so you

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-05 Thread Hans
Am Mittwoch, 5. März 2025, 18:53:07 CET schrieb Matthias Böttcher: > Hi Hans, > > maybe this caused your problem: > Nov 06, 2024 > Commit 30d39f81 "lb config: --distribution defaults to testing" > https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit/30d39f812e41eb81928a0 > fe1f3a4f686eb30dfa

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 05:38:41AM -0500, Dan Purgert wrote: er, "second" address, just from a MUA? I should have said that an extra email address is handly to have. Sorry for the confusion. Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication Request" popup which prevents me from

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Felix Miata
Titus Newswanger composed on 2025-03-05 10:54 (UTC-0600): > Felix Miata wrote: >> # inxi -GSaz --vs --za --hostname >> inxi 3.3.37-00 (2025-01-06) ... >>Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 compositor: Twin v: 3.0 driver: X: >> loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i9

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 08:09:20AM +0100, Loris Bennett wrote: "Russell L. Harris" writes: On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. How does Evolution give you a second email address? A second, in

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-05 Thread Matthias Böttcher
Hi Hans, maybe this caused your problem: Nov 06, 2024 Commit 30d39f81 "lb config: --distribution defaults to testing" https://salsa.debian.org/live-team/live-build/-/commit/30d39f812e41eb81928a0fe1f3a4f686eb30dfa9 Bye Matthias

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Felix Miata
Titus Newswanger composed on 2025-03-05 11:54 (UTC-0500): > > On 3/5/25 00:12, Felix Miata wrote: >> I have a slightly newer PC and see nothing obviously evident in your data to >> explain the problem. That said, I don't remember why I have i915.enable_guc=2 >> included on my kernel cmdline. It ma

Re: pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-05 Thread Jean-François Bachelet
Hello :) Le 05/03/2025 à 12:46, Gerard ROBIN a écrit : Hello, I use Bookworm and Trixie. With Bookworm no problem when I click on "file:///home/user/file.png" the file file.png opens with display (imagemagick) but with Trixie it is pdfarranger that opens the file. I put pdfarranger in the displa

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 10:54:05 -0600 Titus Newswanger wrote: > For some reason I'm not finding any kernel-firmware-free. I see I > have firmware-linux-free...? > > apt show kernel-firmware-free > N: Unable to locate package kernel-firmware-free > N: Unable to locate package kernel-firmware-free > E

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
Op wo 5 mrt 2025 om 18:05 schreef 🦓 : > my sudo apt install ncdu cost me 0.000981GB. > Merely 0.981GB alias 98K.

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
ncdu does the trick! thank u all 4 ur answers. 12G vosk bloat won't ever fit into my available 1G on my 11G MMC: (debian)czyborra@localhost:~$ df -hl / Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mmcblk0p1 11G 8.7G 1.1G 90% / my pip3 install vosk had failed before even starting a

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Eben King
On 3/4/25 21:59, Max Nikulin wrote: In this particular case I do not think it is a drive failure. I suspect mounting /home was a mistake. Indeed. "-ro" is not read only when a journal is in play. Booting a live image may destroy hibernation data since live system may mount the same swap

Re: no graphics with Lenovo Thinkcentre M700

2025-03-05 Thread Titus Newswanger
On 3/5/25 00:12, Felix Miata wrote: I have a slightly newer PC and see nothing obviously evident in your data to explain the problem. That said, I don't remember why I have i915.enable_guc=2 included on my kernel cmdline. It may be that you need it too. Also, you do have kernel-firmware-free in

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-05, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I thought the whole point of running the SMART tests was to detect >> a failing disk, so color me confused. > > If we knew how to detect a failing (as opposed to failed) disk, then > things would be easy. SMART is an attempt to provide relevant > informatio

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread 🦓
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Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I thought the whole point of running the SMART tests was to detect > a failing disk, so color me confused. If we knew how to detect a failing (as opposed to failed) disk, then things would be easy. SMART is an attempt to provide relevant information, but that's all. AFAIK, it's still "the best

[SOLVED] Re: Debian-live can not be build missing package

2025-03-05 Thread Hans
I believe, the problem is been caused by wrong informations in /var/lib/dpkg/info from the native installed debian/stable, where I qant to build it. ALL *.postinst files are pointing to trixie and not to bookworm (although, the installed packages are all from bookworm). So, with the view on t

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Antonio Russo
On 2025-03-05 07:22, Runamile Czyborra wrote: my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Start by running ncdu in y

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Yassine Chaouche
Le 3/5/25 à 15:22, Runamile Czyborra a écrit : my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Clearing apt's cache migh

Re: how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:22:15PM +0100, Runamile Czyborra wrote: > my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install > python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to > ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes? Note

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Greg
On 2025-03-05, Max Nikulin wrote: > > Running SMART tests (smartctl -t ...) on a failing disk may kill it. If I thought the whole point of running the SMART tests was to detect a failing disk, so color me confused.

how do you find installed bloatware to apt purge?

2025-03-05 Thread Runamile Czyborra
my df -hl / is at 8.7G/11G=89% after sudo apt update && sudo apt install python3 pip && sudu pip3 install vosk in my crouton and what do you use to ergonomically present installed candidates to apt purge a few gigabytes?

Re: filesystem damage

2025-03-05 Thread Nicolas George
Greg (HE12025-03-05): > I thought the whole point of running the SMART tests was to detect a failing > disk, so color me confused. Maybe apply some common sense. If you have a device that is on the verge of breaking down, using it intensively is likely to push it over the edge, of course. The po

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-05 Thread gene heskett
On 3/5/25 03:46, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Tue Mar 4, 2025 at 10:10 PM GMT, Richmond wrote: I looked at about:buildconfig for Firefox ESR on Debian, and it says it is built from a Mozilla source: Source Built from https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr128/rev/f3783ad20bf40a11fb4b7ed08

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-05 Thread Henrik Ahlgren
"Jonathan Dowland" writes: > Whether or not the data-gathering is enabled in the Debian builds (and > whether it's on by default in the sources), I don't know. I hope not. > But irrespectively, users of Debian's Firefox packages are not bound by > Mozilla's EULA. When upgrading the Firefox bi

Re: pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-05 Thread Max Nikulin
On 05/03/2025 18:46, Gerard ROBIN wrote: I use Bookworm and Trixie. With Bookworm no problem when I click on "file:///home/user/file.png" the file file.png opens with display (imagemagick) but with Trixie it is pdfarranger that opens the file. What is output of the following command? xdg-mi

Re: Monthly FAQ for the Debian-user mailing list (last modified 20250301)

2025-03-05 Thread Anssi Saari
David writes: > Given that this infrastructure exists and is being used by most people > involved with producing Debian, it surprises me to hear talk of posting > diffs to the mailing list, which requires too much effort by both writers > and readers IMHO. Too much effort? I don't understand. Su

pdfarranger and update-alternatives

2025-03-05 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello, I use Bookworm and Trixie. With Bookworm no problem when I click on "file:///home/user/file.png" the file file.png opens with display (imagemagick) but with Trixie it is pdfarranger that opens the file. I put pdfarranger in the display group of update-alternatives with a low priority but it

Re: Proposal for a Yearly Stable Release Cycle for Educational Institutions

2025-03-05 Thread tomas
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 02:48:01PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that > > offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year > > cycle. This would be particularly beneficial for educational > > institutions, where a b

Re: evolution recovery

2025-03-05 Thread Dan Purgert
On Mar 05, 2025, Russell L. Harris wrote: > > On my Debian 12 desktop, I installed Evolution, primarily for easy > access to HTML messages. Also, it gives me a second mail address. er, "second" address, just from a MUA? > > Several days ago, Evolution began causing a "Mail Authentication > Req

Re: Firefox adds a controversial ToS

2025-03-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue Mar 4, 2025 at 10:10 PM GMT, Richmond wrote: I looked at about:buildconfig for Firefox ESR on Debian, and it says it is built from a Mozilla source: Source Built from https://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-esr128/rev/f3783ad20bf40a11fb4b7ed088236c1a9f7be362 So won't it be doing the s