Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun 29 Dec 2024 at 13:17:57 (-0500), Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Top big must-have *for me* was a dedicated partition for EFI. That's true if you're booting in EFI mode. It's not clear whether the OP is. > Somewhere > I read that HAS to be an extremely early partition on the hard drive. > Today

Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun 29 Dec 2024 at 20:24:46 (+), Joe wrote: > The answer is to modify /etc/default/grub and run update-grub again: > > To restore the old behavior, open a terminal and issue sudo echo > GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=false >> /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub > > Note that you will need to d

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 30/12/2024 00:19, e...@gmx.us wrote: eben@cerberus:~$ ls /boot/efi ls: cannot access '/boot/efi': No such file or directory Create EFI System Partition: it should have proper partition type UUID and it is not recommended to make it too small (<500 MB). Configure mounting it to boot/efi, cr

Re: elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc missing from trixie

Charles Curley writes: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 21:52:52 + (GMT) > Tim Woodall wrote: > >> This looks like the culprit: >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1077096 >> >> But the maintainer hasn't dealt with it in 6 months. >> It looks like the last maintainer upload for auto-

Re: elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc missing from trixie

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 21:52:52 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: > This looks like the culprit: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1077096 > > But the maintainer hasn't dealt with it in 6 months. > > This package needs a no-change upload to rebuild it against dh-elpa > >=2.1.5. Thi

Re: qt6-svg-plugins should be a hard dependency from kde-full or task-kde-desktop

Thank you Christopher, I was suffering that problem (on sid), since the transition to kde 6... I haven't found what you find ! I had filled a bug report, but on package kf6-breeze-icon-theme, which does not seems to be the problem with your finding. qt6-svg-plugin should be a dependency of some

Re: elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc missing from trixie

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Charles Curley wrote: The packages elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc are missing from trixie. They are in bookworm and sid. Any chance we'll see them back in trixie? This looks like the culprit: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1077096 But the mai

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 12:24, Joe wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 11:07:18 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: On 12/29/24 08:26, Eben King wrote: I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure booting by EFI. I have: Storage boot option control UEFI only Other PCI device ROM priorityUEF

Re: booting by UEFI?

e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 12/29/24 12:51, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > > Eben King wrote: > > > >> My motherboard is a Gigabyte H170 > > > > That doesn't seem to be precise enough. They make multiple boards > > with that general name and all but one support UEFI. But the > > GA-H170TN doe

Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 11:07:18 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > On 12/29/24 08:26, Eben King wrote: > > I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure > > booting by EFI. I have: > > > > Storage boot option control UEFI only > > Other PCI device ROM priorityUEFI only > > (oth

elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc missing from trixie

The packages elpa-auto-complete and elpa-markdown-toc are missing from trixie. They are in bookworm and sid. Any chance we'll see them back in trixie? -- Does anybody read signatures any more? https://charlescurley.com https://charlescurley.com/blog/

Re: SMTP servers

Hi, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:12:47PM +, mick.crane wrote: > I have various email accounts, the web hosting, a paid for one, the gmail, > the ISP one. Probably at least one of those comes with an SMTP server for sending mail out, so probably just use that and always set your from address to

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 12/29/24 05:10, Rafał Lichwała wrote: On 29.12.2024 04:07, David Christensen wrote: Make? ... Model? Sorry, I should start my previous email from those details. Dell XPS 13 (the old model, 9370), Intel UHD Graphics 620 Thank you for the information. It helps us provide better answers.

Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun 29 Dec 2024 at 11:26:38 (-0500), Eben King wrote: > I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure booting by > EFI. I have: > > Storage boot option control UEFI only > Other PCI device ROM priorityUEFI only > (other options for both are "Legacy only" and "Disabl

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 29.12.2024 15:02, Andrii Kalashnykov wrote: Try switching the SATA Operation mode back to what it was before you switched it to AHCI mode, boot into Windows and do either [1] or [2]. Then switch the SATA Operation mode back to AHCI. [1] https://support.thinkcritical.com/kb/articles/switch-wi

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 08:26, Eben King wrote: I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure booting by EFI. I have: Storage boot option control UEFI only Other PCI device ROM priorityUEFI only (other options for both are "Legacy only" and "Disabled") maybe this will help. D

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 13:17, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > > Good luck with yours. FINALLY fixing this a couple years ago was so > empowering. Without boot, we got no computers. :) Wow, thanks. I've heard that switching an existing system to EFI can be disruptive and error-prone, so I'll probably try again whe

Re: SMTP servers

> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 12:25 PM > From: "mick.crane" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: SMTP servers > > hello > I'm not really understanding the internet. > Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without > having the device open to random inte

Re: SMTP servers

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:51:34 + (GMT) Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, mick.crane wrote: > > > hello > > I'm not really understanding the internet. > > Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place > > without having the device open to random internet connections?

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On Sun, 2024-12-29 at 14:10 +0100, Rafał Lichwała wrote: > On 29.12.2024 04:07, David Christensen wrote: > > > Make? Dell, below.  It is better to state this information at the > > top of your message. > > > > Model? > > Sorry, I should start my previous email from those details. > > Dell XPS 13 (

Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun, 2024-12-29 at 11:26 -0500, Eben King wrote: I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure booting by EFI. I have: Storage boot option control UEFI only Other PCI device ROM priorityUEFI only (other options for both are "Legacy only" and "Disabled") The boot de

Re: booting by UEFI?

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 12:19:35 -0500 e...@gmx.us wrote: > On 12/29/24 11:38, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 11:26:38AM -0500, Eben King wrote: > >> The boot device is currently /dev/sdb which has a GPT partition > >> table, and its first few partitions are > >> > >> numb

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 12:51, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Eben King wrote: > >> My motherboard is a Gigabyte H170 > > That doesn't seem to be precise enough. They make multiple boards with > that general name and all but one support UEFI. But the GA-H170TN does > not mention UEFI, although its spec d

Re: SMTP servers

On 2024-12-29 17:53, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 17:25:40 +, mick.crane wrote: hello I'm not really understanding the internet. Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without having the device open to random internet connections? Are you envisio

Re: SMTP servers

Hi, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 06:02:33PM +, mick.crane wrote: > On 2024-12-29 17:38, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > You can first place your SMTP server behind a firewall to block the > > undesirable ports. > > Second, your SMTP may allow to specify the port you desire to use. This > > the case with e

Re: SMTP servers

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 17:25:40 + "mick.crane" wrote: > hello > I'm not really understanding the internet. > Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place > without having the device open to random internet connections? > Yes, though it's becoming harder. You need a fixed IP

Re: SMTP servers

On 2024-12-29 17:38, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Hello, On 29/12/2024 18:25, mick.crane wrote: hello I'm not really understanding the internet. Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without having the device open to random internet connections? You can first place your SM

Re: booting by UEFI?

Eben King composed on 2024-12-29 11:26 (UTC-0500): > My motherboard is a Gigabyte H170 with 32 GiB RAM and I run Debian 12.8. I This Gigabyte is slightly newer: $ inxi -M Machine: Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: B250M-D3H v: N/A serial: Mobo: Gigabyte model: B250M-D3H-CF v: x.x

Re: SMTP servers

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 18:38:10 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Second, your SMTP may allow to specify the port you desire to use. This the > case with exim4. You can listen on any port you like, but if people want to send email to you, they will try to connect to you on TCP port 25. There is no

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On Monday, 30-12-2024 at 01:34 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > On 29.12.2024 07:21, George at Clug wrote: > > 4) If you want to dual boot, then I do not see issues using Debian Bookworm > > to do this. I would boot into Debian (i.e. Grub), from where I select > > either Windows or Debian. If my pri

Re: SMTP servers

Hello, On 29/12/2024 18:25, mick.crane wrote: hello I'm not really understanding the internet. Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without having the device open to random internet connections? You can first place your SMTP server behind a firewall to block the un

Re: SMTP servers

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 17:25:40 +, mick.crane wrote: > hello > I'm not really understanding the internet. > Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without > having the device open to random internet connections? Are you envisioning mail as "outgoing only", with nobod

Re: booting by UEFI?

Eben King wrote: > My motherboard is a Gigabyte H170 That doesn't seem to be precise enough. They make multiple boards with that general name and all but one support UEFI. But the GA-H170TN does not mention UEFI, although its spec does say "Use of licensed AMI UEFI BIOS".

Re: SMTP servers

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, mick.crane wrote: hello I'm not really understanding the internet. Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without having the device open to random internet connections? mick Yes, but in practice many places won't accept mail from most home IPs

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On 2024-12-28 19:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: Perhaps there's a cron job that starts it. I use getmail with various getmailrc files started by cron. Perhaps OP did that with fetchmail and forgot. crontab -e would show mick

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

Thank you Joe! I had to switch back in SATA settings from "AHCI" to "Raid ON" again to restore Windows boot. Regards, Rafal On 29.12.2024 15:39, Joe wrote: It can be recovered, it may take a little work. First, does the laptop have a UEFI menu available on a hotkey during startup? You may ne

SMTP servers

hello I'm not really understanding the internet. Can I do my own SMTP server and send mail off to the right place without having the device open to random internet connections? mick

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 11:38, Andy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 11:26:38AM -0500, Eben King wrote: >> The boot device is currently /dev/sdb which has a GPT partition table, and >> its first few partitions are >> >> number size mount point ... > Does UEFI booting not require an EFI System

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 29/12/2024 23:26, Eben King wrote: I swear I ran a program that showed me EFI boot vars (if they exist) and it showed nothing. efibootmgr -v however you need to boot in UEFI mode at first, e.g. using a live media. Alternatively if firmware boot menu allows to pick an .efi file then you

Re: booting by UEFI?

On 12/29/24 17:26, Eben King wrote: How can I ensure that I'm actually booted using EFI? "/sys/firmware/efi" if present indicates that you are booted in UEFI mode. -- John Doe

Re: booting by UEFI?

Hi, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 11:26:38AM -0500, Eben King wrote: > The boot device is currently /dev/sdb which has a GPT partition table, and > its first few partitions are > > number size mount point > 1 953MB /boot > 2 2GB/ > 3 10GB /usr > 11 9GB/home > 13

booting by UEFI?

I think I've done everything reasonable in my firmware to ensure booting by EFI. I have: Storage boot option control UEFI only Other PCI device ROM priorityUEFI only (other options for both are "Legacy only" and "Disabled") The boot device is currently /dev/sdb which has a GPT partition

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

On 29/12/2024 01:06, gene heskett wrote: It runs when it gets around to it, opening a local file is an automatic lockup for 30 seconds. And no one has identified that problem. Nobody can guess what the mess you are able to create on your machines. If you did not hate systemd then you would hav

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On 29/12/2024 10:18, John Hasler wrote: On Unstable: toncho/~ 20 systemctl cat fetchmail.service # /run/systemd/generator.late/fetchmail.service ^ # Automatically generated by systemd-sysv-generator ^ [...] [Service] Type=forking Re

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 22:44:56 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > John posted content of the service file *generated* for SysV init script. A. I missed that context.

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On 29/12/2024 20:50, Andy Smith wrote: On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 02:16:42PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail What is your point? There is a native systemd service unit for fetchmail in the next release of Debian. Your constant

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

Hi, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:29:58AM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 13:50:56 +, Andy Smith wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 02:16:42PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail > > > > What is your po

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

>> Armbian is *NOT* Debian They do things differently there. Some of their [...] > Then you are missing out on the many things a pi clone can do on 5% of an > amd64's power budget. Granted the amd64 can do it 20x faster, ignoring that > the pi clone is fast enough. Debian seems to treat the arm64'

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:50:31 +0100, Roger Price wrote: > On Debian 12 the command systemctl status fetchmail now has a "CGroup" entry: > > ● fetchmail.service - LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon > Loaded: loaded (/etc/init.d/fetchmail; generated) > Active: active (run

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 8:05 PM Rafał Lichwała wrote: > > I plan to switch completely from Windows 11 to Debian on my laptop, but > as a first step I'd like to configure double-boot setup to give it a > try, look around and check if all hardware works fine under Debian. See

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 14:10:33 +0100 Rafał Lichwała wrote: > Even if Windows is finally lost, I accept that. No user data is lost > (everything is already in the cloud), but at most some wasted time on > configuration of Windows is lost ;-) > > It can be recovered, it may take a little work.

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 29.12.2024 07:21, George at Clug wrote: 4) If you want to dual boot, then I do not see issues using Debian Bookworm to do this. I would boot into Debian (i.e. Grub), from where I select either Windows or Debian. If my primary use is Windows, then I edit grub to boot to Windows first. I hav

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 13:50:56 +, Andy Smith wrote: > Hello, > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 02:16:42PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail > > What is your point? There is a native systemd service unit for fetchmail > in the

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 29.12.2024 06:02, David Wright wrote: It doesn't need to. Switch to UEFI mode, and the ESP will boot into Windows. As you can see in my previous reply in this thread - now I've got both Trixie and Windows in GRUB, but Windows does not boot (BSOD). Do you know what to try to recover? Re

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 29.12.2024 03:40, Charles Curley wrote: Is there any reason for trixie? Both trixie and its installer (d-i) are evolving and may not give you useful results. I suggest you use the current Stable, Debian 12.8, bookworm. Trixie has KDE Plasma 6. I'm OK with constantly evolving Debian testing

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

Hello, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 02:16:42PM +0100, poc...@homemail.com wrote: > https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/fetchmail What is your point? There is a native systemd service unit for fetchmail in the next release of Debian. Your constant off-topic proselytizing of Arch h

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

poc...@homemail.com (12024-12-29): > ExecStart=/usr/bin/fetchmail --pidfile /run/fetchmail/fetchmailrc.pid -f > /etc/fetchmailrc Debian uses --nodetach, which is a much better use of modern service monitoring. Regards, -- Nicolas George

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

> Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 10:18 PM > From: "John Hasler" > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail > > On Unstable: > > toncho/~ 20 systemctl cat fetchmail.service > # /run/systemd/generator.late/fetchmail.service > # Automatically generated by

Re: double-boot laptop with Debian Trixie

On 29.12.2024 04:07, David Christensen wrote: Make? Dell, below.  It is better to state this information at the top of your message. Model? Sorry, I should start my previous email from those details. Dell XPS 13 (the old model, 9370), Intel UHD Graphics 620 On my Dell machines with NVMe d

Re: How to update fonts

Hi, On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 04:13:14AM +, Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Sun, Dec 29, 2024 at 09:09:46AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > Do you have the "fonts-recommended" package installed? > > That did the trick thanks - then a reboot. I might have been able to get away > with a logout.

Re: synaptic workalike that WILL run on sudo with wayland.

Hi, On Sat, Dec 28, 2024 at 06:38:16PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > On 12/28/24 15:49, Andy Smith wrote: > > What would have been useful for you to tell us at this point or in any > > of your other replies: > > > > - How exactly you are trying to run synaptic on these Banana Pi > >computers,

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Michael wrote: then make sure you run systemctl disable fetchmail.service otherwise it will start again at next boot. Here is what happened when i tried "disable" on this Debian 11 machine. root@titan ~ systemctl disable fetchmail fetchmail.service is not a native service

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Michael wrote: On Saturday, December 28, 2024 6:56:09 PM CET, Roger Price wrote: And the fetchma+ process disappeared - I hope it no longer rises from the dead. then make sure you run systemctl disable fetchmail.service otherwise it will start again at next boot. In /et

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sunday, December 29, 2024 11:30:30 AM CET, Roger Price wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Michael wrote: I assume this also prevents fetchmail from restarting. correct, as long as the init script is called by systemd and nothing changes in said script. to disable the service prevents it from be

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Saturday, December 28, 2024 6:56:09 PM CET, Roger Price wrote: And the fetchma+ process disappeared - I hope it no longer rises from the dead. then make sure you run systemctl disable fetchmail.service otherwise it will start again at next boot. greetings...

Re: Correct way to stop fetchmail

On Sun, 29 Dec 2024, Max Nikulin wrote: Commands that might help to discover what actually happened journalctl -u fetchmail.service Dec 28 10:37:58 titan systemd[1]: Stopping LSB: init-Script for system wide fetchmail daemon... Dec 28 10:37:58 titan fetch