Re: apt-get update hanging on security and backports.

2015-10-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 21:19:32 -0400 Ed Jabbour wrote: > Running Wheezy. Recently, update has been hanging on > http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main and > http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main. The other repos > at uchicago.edu breeze through, but the two

Regarding R-base-core package for MIPS64 arch

2015-10-11 Thread Sasikumar Kandhasamy
Hi Debian Users, I am looking for R-base-core package compiled for MIPS64. Could find the stable version of R package for MIPS and other architecture. But couldn't find one for mips64 architecture? If we have r-base-core package for mips64, can you please provide me the reference? Or please guide

Re: gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz): > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 08:45:32PM +0300, moxalt wrote: > > If GNOME is working fine without it, then I doubt you need it. I think > > gnome-panel is for GNOME Classic or some such thing, but I'm not sure. > > What is the context of this mail

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 08:58:25AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2015/10/12 7:14 "Lisi Reisz" : > > > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > > > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > > > > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > Please don't top post on the debian-use

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread David Wright
Quoting Glenn English (g...@slsware.net): > > On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > > > No, for servers we don't install NetworkManager and resolvconf, and we > > do static configuration. > > I didn't install NM, the installer did. I didn't know there was such a thing. > > I d

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Gener Badenas
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:07 AM, brian wrote: > > My wife and I live out in the wilds of Maine, and the only internet > service we can get is satellite, which means a maximum of 250 MB total > up and down per day. That allowance gets drained away by these damned > autoplay videos on various news

apt-get update hanging on security and backports.

2015-10-11 Thread Ed Jabbour
Running Wheezy. Recently, update has been hanging on http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main and http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main. The other repos at uchicago.edu breeze through, but the two above just sit there waiting -- waiting -- waiting until they finally con

Re: gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2015, 20:45 +0300 schrieb moxalt: > If GNOME is working fine without it, then I doubt you need it. I think > gnome-panel is for GNOME Classic or some such thing, but I'm not sure. > ok, thank You, as far as i see gnome is working fine without installing gnome-panel... I hav

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Joel Rees
2015/10/12 7:14 "Lisi Reisz" : > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mar

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2015, 23:07 +0100 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:17:48 moxalt wrote: > > > :-) I *think* you meant to say "terrible". :-) > > > > Don't think so. Winky face says sarcasm. > > What winky face? I see no winky face. I see two smiley faces. > > Lisi > I

Re: Re: Debian 8, KDE Lockup

2015-10-11 Thread ATrudyjane
Yes, and after getting it working, didn't care for KDE anyway and uninstalled it. Now it's just Xfce, dwm, and cinammon. Andrea

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Karen Lewellen
Granted, I am not sure what sites you wish to visit. still, because lynx in its updated form mirrors the functions of some mobile platforms, you might be amazed how well sites display with it. especially the m. editions. Web designers are understanding that there are still some people who are

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:33:16 Timothy Hobbs wrote: > Please don't go all pedantic on us! > > On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > >> El 11/10/15 a la

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:25:00 Doug wrote: > On 10/11/2015 04:54 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 23:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On Saturday 10 October 2015 22:51:17 Peter Berlau wrote: > >>> I still like Lenevo most, but i not very familar in "making > >> > >> hardware

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 13:22:37 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Brian wrote: > > > "Oops" conveys nothing. Which is probably why you didn't expand on it > > when replying to David Wright. > > That's exactly what I was trying to say. A next to meaningless error > messa

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:17:48 moxalt wrote: > > :-) I *think* you meant to say "terrible". :-) > > Don't think so. Winky face says sarcasm. What winky face? I see no winky face. I see two smiley faces. Lisi

Re: What software can I use to remind me of daily tasks?

2015-10-11 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Thanks too. I use Emacs, but I don't have it always open because I only use it for editing notes and software. A stand-alone program is therefore more suitable for me. I have tried KAlarm and it seems to do the job fine. El 11/10/15 a las 14:52, Mart van de Wege escribió: Mario Castelán Castr

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 22:43:11 maderios wrote: > On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > >> Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? > >> That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the >

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 21:20:40 Glenn English wrote: > Yup. I should have removed NM as soon as I saw that label in resolv.conf. >  I tried to. But if I'd been successful, I think I would have broken a lot > of stuff in Jessie. Didn't you say that this was a server? Surely it must be possible

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread maderios
On 10/11/2015 09:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail.

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Timothy Hobbs
Please don't go all pedantic on us! On 10/11/15 23:31, Chris Bannister wrote: Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: El 11/10/15 a las 13:13, moxalt escribió: Seriously, though, as much as you dread returni

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
Please don't top post on the debian-user mailing list. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:57:11PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > El 11/10/15 a las 13:13, moxalt escribió: > >Seriously, though, as much as you dread returning to lynx, it is the most > >bandwith-friendly option on the table. If you d

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Doug
On 10/11/2015 04:54 PM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 23:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 10 October 2015 22:51:17 Peter Berlau wrote: I still like Lenevo most, but i not very familar in "making hardware run under Debian"... As I said in the beginning, I have a strong

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 09:17:48PM +0300, moxalt wrote: > > :-) I *think* you meant to say "terrible". :-) > > Don't think so. Winky face says sarcasm. No it doesn't. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who a

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Glenn English writes: > On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> No, for servers we don't install NetworkManager and resolvconf, and we >> do static configuration. > > I didn't install NM, the installer did. I didn't know there was such a thing. > > I did know enough, though, to

Re: gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 08:45:32PM +0300, moxalt wrote: > If GNOME is working fine without it, then I doubt you need it. I think > gnome-panel is for GNOME Classic or some such thing, but I'm not sure. What is this mail pertaining to? Each mail in a thread should make at least some sense on its o

Re: gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 08:45:32PM +0300, moxalt wrote: > If GNOME is working fine without it, then I doubt you need it. I think > gnome-panel is for GNOME Classic or some such thing, but I'm not sure. What is the context of this mail? *Baffled!* -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will h

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Joe
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:02:20 -0600 Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:22:37 -0600 > Glenn English wrote: > > > > >On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >> Your expectations are too high. > > > >Don't agree. This is software is intended to run server(s) on the > >Intern

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 07:37:24PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Dominic Hargreaves a écrit : > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:47:57PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > >> > >> That may be generated from received IPv6 router advertisements (RA) by > >> rdnssd if installed. In that case, you can remov

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 11, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > I am still learning. Good for you; most of us are :-) > I can't help asking why you would not be using > something like dnsmasq instead of /etc/hosts on a server? Isn't it more > reliable? Probably. /etc/hosts is just what the admin claim

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2015-10-10 at 23:51 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 10 October 2015 22:51:17 Peter Berlau wrote: > > I still like Lenevo most, but i not very familar in "making > hardware run > > under Debian"... > > As I said in the beginning, I have a strong "emotional" attachment to > Lenovo.

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Charlie Kravetz
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 13:22:37 -0600 Glenn English wrote: > >On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Brian wrote: > >> Your expectations are too high. > >Don't agree. This is software is intended to run server(s) on the Internet >(for me) and other important networks (for enterprise admins). For those >a

Huawei E173 - no more network interface?

2015-10-11 Thread Kamil Jońca
Sometimes[1] I had to use Huawei E173 gsm modem. About a year ago, when I put this modem in USB port I got network interface like wwan0 or usb0. But now this not happen any more. I got only ttyUSB? interfaces. What should I check/do to have network interface? KJ -- http://wolnelektury.pl/wesprzy

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 11, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > it uses whatever is > configured in nsswitch.conf; that means /etc/hosts first on a default > install. /etc/hosts didn't work. Putting the domain name in resolv.conf did. Maybe it shouldn't have, but that's what happened. In the past, I'v

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 11, 2015, at 1:58 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > No, for servers we don't install NetworkManager and resolvconf, and we > do static configuration. I didn't install NM, the installer did. I didn't know there was such a thing. I did know enough, though, to toss resolvconf and hand write re

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Glenn English writes: > 'hostname -f' isn't rocket science -- it's just a small lookup. I > suspect it goes to ifconfig for the IP then in hosts for the FQDN that > matches the IP, or, apparently, resolv.conf and hostname. You shouldn't suspect, it's in the Fine Manual. It calls into the C libra

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Glenn English writes: > > This is what we're supposed to use for servers on the Internet? No, for servers we don't install NetworkManager and resolvconf, and we do static configuration. Really, you should know better if you're going do whine. Mart -- "We will need a longer wall when the revo

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Last time I checked, most sites don't display properly with lynx because they are not designed for text-based browses. All on the contrary, most web sites are full of useless images, but nonetheless, not displaying them breaks those sites. There may be application for those browsers (like read

Re: What software can I use to remind me of daily tasks?

2015-10-11 Thread Mart van de Wege
Mario Castelán Castro writes: > Hello. > > I'm looking for a free (as in freedom) software that will remind me of > daily tasks. That is it: one in which I can program reminders to be > shown daily at a certain hour as a window to catch my attention or as > a sound. I have searched in the web, b

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 19:06:11 moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). It isn't Debian that doesn't. It's Gmail. Lisi

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 20:40:32 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > > chicken entrails instead? :) > > :-) > > > X-Spam-Status gives a list of SpamAssa

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Glenn English
On Oct 11, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Brian wrote: > Your expectations are too high. Don't agree. This is software is intended to run server(s) on the Internet (for me) and other important networks (for enterprise admins). For those applications, it needs to work for at least the trivial software.

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 06:50:13PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > Can we discard this crystal ball of yours and cast a few runes or examine > chicken entrails instead? :) :-) > X-Spam-Status gives a list of SpamAssassin tests that returned a non-zero

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Hi, Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2015, 21:17 +0300 schrieb moxalt: > > :-) I *think* you meant to say "terrible". :-) > > Don't think so. Winky face says sarcasm. I learned English from internet and readind books of programming languages... If I talk to our singer ( native american ) we have a lot to l

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 01:25:15 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Oct 10, 2015, at 11:28 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > If it's unacceptable, why don't you just stick with sysv. > > I just expect Debian stable to work correctly, like, as best I can > remember, it always has. Your expectations

Solved_Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread maderios
On 10/11/2015 02:31 PM, maderios wrote: I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? I hope it works now. Thanks to everybody Greetings Sorry for noise. I forgot 'Solved'

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread John Hasler
moxalt writes: > Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? Yes it does. > That seems like a rather strange default It's Gmail that has the strange default. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Debian 8, KDE Lockup

2015-10-11 Thread Ron
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 20:55:56 +0300 moxalt wrote: > Basically, don't use GDM with KDE, and don't run KDE on systems that are short > of RAM. Or at all. Yes, better use XFCE or LXDE, which are not bloated messes like KDE or Gnome. Cheers, Ron. -- As a computer, I find your faith in

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 21:06:11 +0300, moxalt wrote: > Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That > seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in > mailman). Besides no attribution or quoting you appear to have completely missed understa

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
> :-) I *think* you meant to say "terrible". :-) Don't think so. Winky face says sarcasm.

Re: Where should I document this Bumblebee fix?

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 Oct 2015 at 20:03:51 -0500, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > I finally got Bumblebee working on my Thinkpad W530 running Jessie! > Following the wiki page[1] never made it work. I would always get > this error: > > [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card0: >

Re: Video-UNfriendly browsers?

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Seriously, though, as much as you dread returning to lynx, it is the most bandwith-friendly option on the table. If you don't want videos of any kind, and are content with just plaintext (and separately downloadable images) you should be safe. What's so bad about lynx?

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Wait.. so Debian doesn't send your own replies back to you by default? That seems like a rather strange default (and that behaviour is the default in mailman).

Re: is google earth safe to install?

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
PRISM has been watching me my entire life without incident. Yet.

Re: Debian 8, KDE Lockup

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Basically, don't use GDM with KDE, and don't run KDE on systems that are short of RAM. Or at all.

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Hi Richard, thanks for advice. The system "Debian/GNU 8 ( jessie )" is installed on /dev/sdb but we needed the windows on /dav/sda, however... no the /dev/sda hd has been corrupt and has to be replaced. So I think if I can install grub to the master boot sector of /dev/sdb, computer hardware can h

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Dominic Hargreaves a écrit : > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:47:57PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >> That may be generated from received IPv6 router advertisements (RA) by >> rdnssd if installed. In that case, you can remove this package if you >> don't need DNS resolution through the IPv6 server.

Re: Putting apt-listchanges and dpkg output in mail sent by unattended-upgrades

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
So you want to combine the output of unattended-upgrades itself and apt-listchanges into a single e-mail? Why? Also, couldn't you just edit the script to make it function as you want it?

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 09:01:12 -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: > > >Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > >list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail > >from other threads. > >About my spam box: I

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 17:00:43 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > > I was wondering what the signifi

Re: gnome mouse configuration

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Yes, you can. Simply plug in the mouse in question, go to the mouse and touchpad settings from the control centre, and adjust the settings accordingly. It should just work (though I am not sure whether the settings persist over repeated removals and reconnections).

Re: gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
If GNOME is working fine without it, then I doubt you need it. I think gnome-panel is for GNOME Classic or some such thing, but I'm not sure.

Re: trouble tracking down H264 codec for iceweasel

2015-10-11 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 12/10/2015 3:25 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: > I've got two systems running jessie. > > Somehow iceweasel on one system has got the cisco OpenH264 decoder installed, > but the other one doesn't. > > I can't seem to track down how I've managed to install it. > > Anybody know how I can get it

Re: trouble tracking down H264 codec for iceweasel

2015-10-11 Thread moxalt
Recent versions of Iceweasel should have the OpenH264 decoder plugin available in the plugin menu. Try purging it and re-installing it. Don't forget to get rid of your local configs too. What versions of Iceweasel are you running? I run stretch, and the decoder appeared in my plugins menu after I

Re: OpenVPN fails [SOLVED]

2015-10-11 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 07/10/15 15:32, Reco wrote: Update initrd after updating /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf. I'm afraid that's beyond my expertise update-initramfs -k all -u It's all in the handbook, really. All it takes is to read it once. https://debian-handbook.info/ Thanks for sticking with this. You're

trouble tracking down H264 codec for iceweasel

2015-10-11 Thread briand
Hi, I've got two systems running jessie. Somehow iceweasel on one system has got the cisco OpenH264 decoder installed, but the other one doesn't. I can't seem to track down how I've managed to install it. Anybody know how I can get it enabled for iceweasel in Jessie ? Thank you, Brian

Re: Machine freezes after kernel update

2015-10-11 Thread Miroslav Skoric
On 10/10/2015 09:33 PM, Piyavkin wrote: Miroslav, by the way, what version of BIOS your laptop has? Insyde F15

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/11/2015 05:08 AM, maderios wrote: Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from other threads. About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. Maderios is your problem that you do n

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 03:01:23PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in th

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 11 October 2015 05:37:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 08:51:18PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > [...] > > > The problem with that is that there's a line at the top of the > > resolv.conf: "Generated by NetworkManager." [...] > > A reason why I avoid NetworkManager s

Re: is google earth safe to install?

2015-10-11 Thread Timothy Hobbs
PRISM has been watching you for years with no incident. On 2015-10-10, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: You want to hear "yes, I have been using it for years with no incident", but that doesn't means it's secure. With the internals of the system hidden from you, you will never be able to trust it.

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 15:17:19 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > I was wondering what the significance of LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers > > of the first mail in this thread is. > > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-11.9 required=4.0 tests=DK

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:47:57PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Dominic Hargreaves a écrit : > > > > I did just notice that there is a third state that the file sometimes > > ends up in, as well as the expected one which begins "Generated by > > Network Manager". This is a file which just conta

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > >

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 14:15:15 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one? > > Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail h

Re: Please tipps for Desktop ( gnome, kde, xfce, etc. ) Debian 8 jessie and some minor issues

2015-10-11 Thread Richard Owlett
Peter Berlau wrote: Hello, Can You please help me? i updated all of our computer to Debian 8 jessie hardware 1. 64 bit Intel ( noname ) 4 GB-RAM .. o.k. 2. apple powerbook ( 2004 ) 2 GB RAM.. no sound 3. apple iMac ( 2010 ) 8 GB RAM .. o.k. i installe

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:37:03PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > > Complain at Google. Perhaps it helps. > > How do you work out that the OP's subscription address is a gmail one? Crystal ball. Plus... reading mail headers (some excerpts): | From bo

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 13:43:50 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > > [...] > > > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > > list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive > > mail from othe

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:31:47PM +0200, maderios wrote: [...] > Hi > I could subscribe 'normaly' 3 minute ago to this list. > I don't understand because I never unscribed myself. Only me (or my > cat :) ) can use my computer... May be a bug? or a

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:24:45PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > I think it just means that some of us are cc-ing him, :-) See my other mail: definitely the more plausible explanation :-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread maderios
On 10/11/2015 02:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 13:08:34 maderios wrote: On 10/11/2015 12:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 12:43:50 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > > [...] > > > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > > list problem'. I receive mail with this

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:10:17PM +0200, Francesco Ariis wrote: > You are receiving mails because people put you in Carbon Copy (Cc:). > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/503224 check this thread > for all the messages. Yep, that makes

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: [...] > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user > list problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive > mail from other threads. > About my spam box

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 13:08:34 maderios wrote: > On 10/11/2015 12:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: > >> I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. > >> Sorry. Some details: > >> I subscribed for many years to debian-user,

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:08:34PM +0200, maderios wrote: > Strangely, it works partially now, only for this thread 'debian-user list > problem'. I receive mail with this thread but I can't receive mail from > other threads. > About my spam box: I watch it very often. It is empty. You are receivin

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 02:34:04PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > Setting immutable bit is a crude, definitely :-) > but effective technique indeed. But > there's less destructive approach called auditd. Thanks for th

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread maderios
On 10/11/2015 12:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. Sorry. Some details: I subscribed for many years to debian-user, debian-user-french, digikam-users, enlightenment-users. All works pe

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Dominic Hargreaves a écrit : > > I did just notice that there is a third state that the file sometimes > ends up in, as well as the expected one which begins "Generated by > Network Manager". This is a file which just contains one nameserver > entry containing the IPv6 resolver. Odd. That may be

gnome mouse configuration

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Hello, under 'xfce' i could configure every mouse separately, does this configuration options exist under gnome too? Thanks for advice, best regards, Peter (hint: I'm left-handed, my women is right-handed so we use(d) different mouses )

gnome ( panel ) question

2015-10-11 Thread Peter Berlau
Hello, i switched from 'xfce' to 'gnome', no problem and gnome looks, for me, a little "cooler". I switched using the 'task-gnome' selection, and i wonder if there is no need to install 'gnome-panel'. Is 'gnome-panel' really not needed? Thanks for answers. best regards, peter

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 11 October 2015 12:20:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > > You are still subscribed. > > Is he ? > (Is there a list of members ?) D'oh! I was forgetting that this list is not subscribers only. Lisi > > To Maderios: > What happens if you try to subscribe

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:23:03 +0100 Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:39:02PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:05:53PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > [Please CC me on replies] > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > On my freshly install

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:23:03PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:39:02PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:05:53PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > > [Please CC me on replies] > > > > > >

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Brian
On Sun 11 Oct 2015 at 12:04:20 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:29:59AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 11 October 2015 11:18:25 maderios wrote: > > > I try to answer. I have to read first the web page, it's not so easy. > > > Sorry. Some details: > > [...] > >

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 01:20:14PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > > You are still subscribed. > > Is he ? > (Is there a list of members ?) Thomas, insightful as always :-) You're quite right: one is able to p

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread Dominic Hargreaves
On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:39:02PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:05:53PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > > [Please CC me on replies] > > > > Hi, > > > > On my freshly installed Debian jessie system, running XFCE and > > Network Manager, I'm seeing /etc/resolv.conf

Re: debian-user list problem

2015-10-11 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Lisi Reisz wrote to Maderios: > You are still subscribed. Is he ? (Is there a list of members ?) To Maderios: What happens if you try to subscribe again with the same e-mail address ? I cannot yet imagine how your mail of Oct 8 could unsubscribe you. But one never knows. Lisi Reisz wrote:

Re: a little jessie whinage

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 11:37:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > (sudo chattr -i ) and wait until the perpetrator Sorry. That would be "chattr +i" regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARE

Re: /etc/resolv.conf being blanked

2015-10-11 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 12:05:53PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote: > [Please CC me on replies] > > Hi, > > On my freshly installed Debian jessie system, running XFCE and > Network Manager, I'm seeing /etc/resolv.conf being blanked every so > often (

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