Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM, David Glover-Aoki wrote: > I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. > > How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? aptitude search "~S ~i ~Aexperimental" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@li

Re: How to get the processes that open (connect to) certain display?

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:35:45 +0800 Magicloud Magiclouds wrote: > Hi, > > There are two situations. Local program, remote program via X forward. > > All I can think of is to iterate local procs and read DISPLAY env. I > have no idea how to do with remote programs. > > Any ideas? man xls

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 23:05:43, Teresa e Junior wrote: > I believe it's got something to do with NetworkManager, because mpc started > working as soon as I run: > $ sudo service network-manager stop > > And then I run this, and while trying to connect, or later if connecting > fails, mpc won't work ag

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 19:01:51, Chris Davies wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > ntpdate is obsolete, please remove (purge) it and install ntp. > > For day-to-day usage I would agree with your recommendation of ntp to > ntpdate. However, I have yet to find a useful alternative to the very > convenient

Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-06-10 02:25 +0200, David Glover-Aoki wrote: > I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. > > How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? $ aptitude search "~S ~i ~Aexperimental" HTH, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 05:14 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:25 -0700, David Glover-Aoki wrote: > > I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. > > > > How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? > > It can't harm to do so

Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:25 -0700, David Glover-Aoki wrote: > I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. > > How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? It can't harm to do some research ;). https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apt-sh

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Teresa e Junior
I believe it's got something to do with NetworkManager, because mpc started working as soon as I run: $ sudo service network-manager stop And then I run this, and while trying to connect, or later if connecting fails, mpc won't work again: $ sudo service network-manager start The version of N

How to get the processes that open (connect to) certain display?

2014-06-09 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Hi, There are two situations. Local program, remote program via X forward. All I can think of is to iterate local procs and read DISPLAY env. I have no idea how to do with remote programs. Any ideas? -- 竹密岂妨流水过 山高哪阻野云飞 And for G+, please use magiclouds#gmail.com.

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, June 9, 2014 11:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, Rusi Mody wrote: > On Monday, June 9, 2014 8:40:02 PM UTC+5:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > If you have indeed a UTC vs. local problem you need to check > > /etc/adjtime on all systems. If all files show the same ntp can take > > care of your hardware c

Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-09 Thread David Glover-Aoki
I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental. How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental? -- David Glover-Aoki | https://david.gloveraoki.net/contact PGP key 5518C7DE | Amateur Radio KJ6TLX signature.asc Description: Message signed with O

Re: Re: Preseeded setting on openssh-server ignored

2014-06-09 Thread Murukesh Mohanan
A few points: 1. I have explicitly stated that I am automating new installations. I don't understand what repeating that statement back to me means. I have read README.Debian, and I don't see how it answers my question, which is: *why* are you totally ignoring a user-made selection of pre-exisitn

VLC not finding codecs, but mplayer does

2014-06-09 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I have a bunch of codecs installed in /usr/lib/win32. Mplayer plays just about everything, but not VLC, so I'm wondering if VLC is expecting them to be somewhere else. Or does VLC have to be recompiled for this? Any ideas? Thanks, Joel Roth -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Re: Preseeded setting on openssh-server ignored

2014-06-09 Thread Murukesh Mohanan
A few points: 1. I have explicitly stated that I am automating new installations. I don't understand what repeating that statement back to me means. I have read README.Debian, and I don't see how it answers my question, which is: *why* are you totally ignoring a user-made selection of pre-exisitn

Re: USB key accessible/seen remotely.

2014-06-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 21:10:05 +0200 Rafał Radecki wrote: > remote server. Is there a way to use my local USB port (attach > mentioned device to it) and share it with this remote server? usbip (and make some research effort before posting…) -- {-Lewix-} Esya: wanna marry me? :) {-Lewix-} Esya: ar

USB key accessible/seen remotely.

2014-06-09 Thread Rafał Radecki
Hi All :) I have currently an USB key which is needed by some software on a remote server. Is there a way to use my local USB port (attach mentioned device to it) and share it with this remote server? BR, Rafal.

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Tom H wrote: >>> Allow me to remind you this story: >>> >>> http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484 >>> >>> The whole mess started once udev (systemd) upstream took the liberty to >>> rewrite udev's firmware loader

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Davies
Andrei POPESCU wrote: > ntpdate is obsolete, please remove (purge) it and install ntp. For day-to-day usage I would agree with your recommendation of ntp to ntpdate. However, I have yet to find a useful alternative to the very convenient "ntpdate -qu {server}". Is there one? Chris -- To UNSUB

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Steve Litt writes: > On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 19:51:53 +1000 > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, >> wrote: >> > except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say >> > that it does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to >> > solve the problem? >

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/09/2014 08:01 AM, Rusi Mody wrote: On Monday, June 9, 2014 3:30:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say that it does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to solve the prob

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Ric Moore
On 06/09/2014 05:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say that it does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to solve the problem? PulseAudio does have its problems (I don't use it, beca

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:14:27 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Quote from the first link: > > > > > > The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Brian wrote: >> On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: >>> >>> $ cat /etc/hostname >>> localhost >> >> I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostname. Contacting this machine from >> elsewhwere on the netwo

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, June 9, 2014 8:40:02 PM UTC+5:30, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > If you have indeed a UTC vs. local problem you need to check > /etc/adjtime on all systems. If all files show the same ntp can take > care of your hardware clock. Aha.There it is That seems to bring me closer to identifying

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:56 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 09:30:01, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > I look forward to hearing how other people do or don't work with > > PulseAudio (and ALSA) in this thread. > > I'll try to explain it simply, but I have a feeling this will turn out >

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 09:30:01, Steve Litt wrote: > > I look forward to hearing how other people do or don't work with > PulseAudio (and ALSA) in this thread. I'll try to explain it simply, but I have a feeling this will turn out quite long: ALSA (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) is the kernel dr

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm using systemd for my everyday Linux since years To be more precise, for my Arch that was stable until a few days ago, I at least use systemd, from <= to >=: [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep systemd /var/log/pacman.log [snip] [2013-02-17

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 17:35:01 +0200 Bernard Mardorf wrote: > spread FUD, it's a fact that udev is merged with udev. So what's Oh, I thought it was merged with udev ;-) -- I farted and scared my cat. moments like that make me better feel my own power... signature.asc Description: PGP signatu

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > udev is merged with udev ^ systemd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 03:14 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > Quote from the first link: > > > > > > The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible >

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Joe
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:40:37 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:10:02PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 07 June 2014 21:41:17 Slavko wrote: > > > apt-get is quicker than aptitude and has (by the release note) > > > > The release notes have not been consistent abou

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:51 PM, wrote: > Which means ( roughly, I'm not a translator ): > "So, the softwares which are using ALSA will send their output to > PulseAudio, which will then use ALSA to access the real sound card." > Really, it's fun. But honestly, I really try to keep my system as >

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread John Hasler
Rusi Mody writes: > My guess is that in some cases the ntp stores the date in UTC in some > in local. Ntp never uses anything but UTC. Make sure your hardware clock is set in UTC and that all your OSs are configured to assume that it is. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA --

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:56:53PM +0400, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Quote from the first link: > > > > The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible > > with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 09/06/2014 17:07, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 05:33:20, Rusi Mody wrote: >> I am a bit mystified by what I find: >> Ive removed ntp and trying to only use ntpdate > > ntpdate is obsolete, please remove (purge) it and install ntp. Neither > requires further configuration. I w

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 16:52 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 09/06/2014 16:09, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > > For averaged desktop audio users pulseaudio does provide a more or IMO > > rather less way to handle audio streams. > > What do you mean here ? I do notr use pulseaudio, what would it give me >

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 05:33:20, Rusi Mody wrote: > > I am a bit mystified by what I find: > Ive removed ntp and trying to only use ntpdate ntpdate is obsolete, please remove (purge) it and install ntp. Neither requires further configuration. [snip ntpdate configuring] > However if someone has a

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 14:55:26, Dalios wrote: > > Never tried apt before so after your message I decided to research a little. > Searching for info on apt is quite tricky as the web is full of pages on > apt-get and aptitude etc. Searching for "apt vs apt-get" returned this > reddit thread which is ju

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 09 June 2014 14:40:37 Chris Bannister wrote: > > The release notes have not been consistent about which they recommend for > > a particular upgrade.  Both have been recommended on occasion. > > For the same release? Of course not. > The release notes are written for *each* release, >

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-08, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> To see them in a terminal, the command is >> >> $ ls -a > > I prefer > > $ ls -A > > "-A, --almost-all do not list implied . and .." > Why are they (the files) hidden in the first place? Hey, a brief NSA-compatible Google search (of which th

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Erwan David
Le 09/06/2014 16:09, Ralf Mardorf a écrit : > For averaged desktop audio users pulseaudio does provide a more or IMO > rather less way to handle audio streams. What do you mean here ? I do notr use pulseaudio, what would it give me to have it ? I also have a laptop under fedora with pulseaudio, a

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Teresa e Junior wrote: > > $ sudo /usr/sbin/tcpdump -nn -i any udp port 53 or udp port 5353 > tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode > listening on any, link-type LINUX_SLL (Linux cooked), capture size 65535 > bytes > 07:21:38.107

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Glad you have a solution! All my Debian 7 systems use Xfce instead of >> GNOME, so I can't help you there. Debian Testing, aka Jessie, ships >> with Xfce by default, so if you upgrade from

timeout for cryptsetup keyscript=passdev

2014-06-09 Thread all . digital
Hi List, I'm trying to figure out how passdev works. I've setup fulldisk-encryption by selecting cryptsetup+lvm during install. After installation I added a keyfile and edited crypttab to serve the keyfile from a usbstick. With the usbstick plugged in I can successfully boot, but without I get

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 13:19:33, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I also have played with pinning in the past. I must admit, I agree with you, > it not a very good solution, since you need to progressively add every > dependency of the tool you want to upgrade, or automatical upgrades will > fa

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 15:51 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > PulseAudio is one of the multiple layer which are made to "simplify" > the use of sound systems. It's called a "sound server". > Which means ( roughly, I'm not a translator ): > "So, the softwares which are using ALSA will

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:01:24AM -0400, Tom H wrote: > > Allow me to remind you this story: > > > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/484 > > > > The whole mess started once udev (systemd) upstream took the liberty to > > rewrite udev's firmware loader, and blamed kernel for the resulting > > breaka

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.06.2014 15:30, Steve Litt a écrit : I have no Mental Model of the Linux sound system, so when my sound goes out, I keep messing with everything until I get it fixed. One thing I use a lot of is text mode alsamixer. I'll often find something muted. If I am not wrong, ALSA is a low lev

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 07, 2014 at 11:10:02PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 07 June 2014 21:41:17 Slavko wrote: > > apt-get is quicker than aptitude and has (by the release note) > > The release notes have not been consistent about which they recommend for a > particular upgrade. Both have been re

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 07:58:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Brian wrote: >>> On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: $ cat /etc/hostname localhost >>> >>> I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostn

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 14:33:56 +0200 Filip wrote: > Rusi Mody writes: > > > > > JFTR: I try to stay with xfce if possible. > > But parole was not working and I had to install totem. > > This brought in a lot of gnome stuff -- including PA. > > And the next I knew, sound had stopped working. > > >

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 19:51:53 +1000 Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, > wrote: > > except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say > > that it does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to > > solve the problem? > > PulseAudio does have its pr

Re: Sid Foibles

2014-06-09 Thread David Dušanić
09.06.2014, 09:23, "David Baron" : > A lot of "held" packages: > > libxfont, libxfont-dev --> remove xfs. Is xfs gone/deprecated? In use at all? > or .. don't do this! > network-manger, ppp,etc --> remove sysvinit-core, install systemd, systemd- > sysv. Do these supersede sysvinit-core or should pa

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Reco wrote: > On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> Quote from the first link: >> >> The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible >> with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly >> a detail of

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 05:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: > Ive removed ntp and trying to only use ntpdate You can't, you must use command line ntpdate-debian (same pkg). … > So servers are not used because NTPDATE_USE_NTP_CONF is yes > > But I have no ntp and therefore no /etc/ntp.conf So, c

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.06.2014 14:33, Filip a écrit : Rusi Mody writes: JFTR: I try to stay with xfce if possible. But parole was not working and I had to install totem. This brought in a lot of gnome stuff -- including PA. And the next I knew, sound had stopped working. Started working when I removed PA.

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:10:01 PM UTC+5:30, B wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 21:02:21 -0700 (PDT) > > Rusi Mody wrote: > > > > Rebooting one and then another causes errors of > > "superblock time in future" > > > > Either, as you've been told, you're not using the same > setup (UTC|local) e

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 13:27:21 +0400, Reco wrote: Weird. Just weird. Try it like this: 1) Start as root: /usr/sbin/tcpdump -nn -i any udp port 53 or udp port 5353 2) Run mpc in another shell. 3) Please post the contents of your /etc/nsswitch.conf Nothing really happens in the tcpdump window wh

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:56:25 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Could you please post the output of 'ip a' after you disconnect the WiFi? Just in case, I'm posting the output of both when the Wifi is off and on: $ ip a 1: lo: mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Filip
Rusi Mody writes: > > JFTR: I try to stay with xfce if possible. > But parole was not working and I had to install totem. > This brought in a lot of gnome stuff -- including PA. > And the next I knew, sound had stopped working. > > Started working when I removed PA. > > [I may have got some detai

Re: OT: install-grub in Solaris x86 (was: GRUB2)

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:05:31PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2014-06-09, Reco wrote: > > > > 4) I don't beleive that any further conversation on this topic would get > > discussion anywhere. > > > > Where could it possibly get (the discussion) but where it has already > gotten--nowhere, fast? Well

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Rusi Mody
On Monday, June 9, 2014 3:30:02 PM UTC+5:30, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: > > except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say that it > > does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to solve the problem? > PulseAudio does have its pr

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 07:58:41 -0400, Tom H wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: > >> > >> $ cat /etc/hostname > >> localhost > > > > I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostname. Contacting this machine from > > elsewhwere

Re: OT: install-grub in Solaris x86 (was: GRUB2)

2014-06-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-06-09, Reco wrote: > > 4) I don't beleive that any further conversation on this topic would get > discussion anywhere. > Where could it possibly get (the discussion) but where it has already gotten--nowhere, fast? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Glad you have a solution! All my Debian 7 systems use Xfce instead of > GNOME, so I can't help you there. Debian Testing, aka Jessie, ships > with Xfce by default, so if you upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy to > Jessie, you would see somethin

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 4:55 AM, Brian wrote: > On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: >> >> $ cat /etc/hostname >> localhost > > I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostname. Contacting this machine from > elsewhwere on the network could prove frustrating. The hostname in "/etc/host

Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-06-08 at 18:57 -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > The 'dot' at the start of the filename is how *nix systems > traditionally mark a "hidden file". Any filename beginning with a dot > will be treated as "hidden", and any filename not beginning with one > won't. > > To see them in a terminal,

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Dalios
On 06/09/2014 11:45 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 09 iun 14, 08:35:44, Dalios wrote: # apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean && apt-get autoremove && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade A few comments: - autoclean after clean is redundant - I don't think clearing your ca

Re: Sid Foibles

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:23 AM, David Baron wrote: > libxfont, libxfont-dev --> remove xfs. Is xfs gone/deprecated? In use at all? xfs was removed from the Debian repositories a while ago. > network-manger, ppp,etc --> remove sysvinit-core, install systemd, systemd- > sysv. Do these supersede

Re: wine-unstable 64 bit

2014-06-09 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 11:45 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Never tried to do that myself, but it should work: > > _ install build-dependencies of the package you want ( #aptitude > build-dep ) > _ download the source package ( $apt-get source ) > _ replace the source code with of

Re: Auto-emptying of trash.

2014-06-09 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Sharon Kimble wrote: > > Revisiting a question that I asked in March last year about how to > auto-empty a trash bin. > > This has worked very well until today, when on one of my drives it > also deleted the trash bin as well, so my follow-on script to give > me the

Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files

2014-06-09 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/08/2014 08:58 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > The Wanderer wrote: >> Yes, moving a file affects only data stored in the directory node >> which contains the file (and the directory node where the file is >> being moved to, which may be the same one).

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 08.06.2014 08:40, Thierry de Coulon a écrit : I guess no Debian package manager likes this mix of origins. I took a look at pinning, but there is no simple solution there either. I am quite used to play with lot of versions of softwares through aptitude, and never had real problems. Ah, w

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:31:26PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Quote from the first link: > > The udev built from the systemd source tree will stay compatible > with non-systemd init systems for a long time. This change is mostly > a detail of the build scheme, rather than a chang

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 09:40:48PM +0800, Trudi wrote: > Hi > I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. > Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online > OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. > My issue is that the android/tablet pa

Re: ntp and multiple OSes

2014-06-09 Thread Bzzzz
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014 21:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Rusi Mody wrote: > Rebooting one and then another causes errors of > "superblock time in future" Either, as you've been told, you're not using the same setup (UTC|local) everywhere or this machine has a large positive clock drift (ntp can take up to 11 min

Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 08:22:51, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > > In this case "systemd" likely is for udev, wich usually also is used > > > without systemd, but it's merged by u

Re: wine-unstable 64 bit

2014-06-09 Thread Floris
Op Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:19:32 +0200 schreef Floris : With the current version of wine64-unstable (1.7.19-1) there is no possibility to run a 64-bit wineserver floris@Alice:~$ rm -R win64 floris@Alice:~$ WINEPREFIX=/home/floris/win64 WINEARCH=win64 wine-unstable wincfg wine: created the con

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/09/2014 11:21 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >>> I just reinstalled Deby with the 7.5.0 DVD release and what was my surprise >>> to fall back on Gnome 2 look alike ? No more vertical desktops, no more >>> docks on the sides ?? >>> >>> My d

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Teresa e Junior
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 09:55:06 +0100, Brian wrote: On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: $ cat /etc/hostname localhost I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostname. Contacting this machine from elsewhwere on the network could prove frustrating. I think that is or was a basic def

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.06.2014 11:58, Slavko a écrit : Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 7 Jun 2014 09:48:44 +0200 Thierry de Coulon napísal: Hello all, I've lived for years using synaptic and I am no so used to aptitude - and I don't want to make mistakes... Possibly my installation is now in such a state that I should r

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 19:21:55, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> Glad you have a solution! All my Debian 7 systems use Xfce instead of >> GNOME, so I can't help you there. Debian Testing, aka Jessie, ships >> with Xfce by default, so if you upgrade fr

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 19:21:55, Chris Angelico wrote: > > Glad you have a solution! All my Debian 7 systems use Xfce instead of > GNOME, so I can't help you there. Debian Testing, aka Jessie, ships > with Xfce by default, so if you upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy to > Jessie, you would see something ap

Re: PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.06.2014 11:51, Chris Angelico a écrit : On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say that it does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to solve the problem? PulseAudio does have its problems (I don't use it, b

PulseAudio (was Re: Sid Foibles)

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: > except that each time I have read a reference to PA, it was to say that it > does not work correctly, and often, removing it seemed to solve the problem? PulseAudio does have its problems (I don't use it, because my sound card is a bit weird; I uninstalle

Re: debian installation

2014-06-09 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 06/09/2014 11:02 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 09 iun 14, 12:28:05, Joy Varghese wrote: >> Dear Sir/Madam, >> >> I am interested to install debian OS in my 'Dell Inspiron N4050' >> Is it possible to install? >> Where I will get the correct debian OS. >> At present the system is running wi

Re: wine-unstable 64 bit

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. Le 09.06.2014 11:19, Floris a écrit : With the current version of wine64-unstable (1.7.19-1) there is no possibility to run a 64-bit wineserver floris@Alice:~$ rm -R win64 floris@Alice:~$ WINEPREFIX=/home/floris/win64 WINEARCH=win64 wine-unstable wincfg wine: created the configuration

Re: Sid Foibles

2014-06-09 Thread berenger . morel
Hello. Le 09.06.2014 10:16, Sven Joachim a écrit : Installing systemd is kind of mandatory these days (many packages need logind from it). Just to precise that this particular point still might be avoided, with some conditions. Disclaimer 1: I do not say that systemd is not a good toolset,

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Reco
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 04:04:21AM -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 11:49:15 +0400, Reco wrote: > >Ok. Thinking about it, I beleive I may miss something. What does show: > > > >strace -f mpc > > OK, the first log is from when it fails, and the second from when > the Wifi is conne

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Gnome 2, 3.. And then 2 ?

2014-06-09 Thread Chris Angelico
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 6:11 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> I just reinstalled Deby with the 7.5.0 DVD release and what was my surprise >> to fall back on Gnome 2 look alike ? No more vertical desktops, no more >> docks on the sides ?? >> >> My details in system settings show Gnome 3.4.2, and either

wine-unstable 64 bit

2014-06-09 Thread Floris
With the current version of wine64-unstable (1.7.19-1) there is no possibility to run a 64-bit wineserver floris@Alice:~$ rm -R win64 floris@Alice:~$ WINEPREFIX=/home/floris/win64 WINEARCH=win64 wine-unstable wincfg wine: created the configuration directory '/home/floris/win64' wine: WINEAR

Re: Kernel 3.14.x bug? rm, mv root-owned files

2014-06-09 Thread Filip
Chris Bannister writes: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 04:45:37PM +0200, Filip wrote: >> >> Removing a directory entries no relation whatsoever to the permissions >> of the file. > > Parse error! Does not compute! :) > > -- > "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people > w

Re: debian installation

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 12:28:05, Joy Varghese wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > I am interested to install debian OS in my 'Dell Inspiron N4050' > Is it possible to install? > Where I will get the correct debian OS. > At present the system is running with Windows 7. Since this is a laptop you probably need

Re: debian installation

2014-06-09 Thread Floris
Op Mon, 09 Jun 2014 10:28:05 +0200 schreef Joy Varghese : Dear Sir/Madam, I am interested to install debian OS in my 'Dell Inspiron N4050' Is it possible to install? Where I will get the correct debian OS. At present the system is running with Windows 7. Thank you & Regards, Joy Varghese W

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 01:23:43, Teresa e Junior wrote: > Hello to all! > > I've had this problem with previous versions of MPD, and now I'm using > 0.18.7, but the problem persists. This is an odd situation: MPD is > configured to run on 127.0.0.1, but if the Wifi is disconnected in > NetworkManager,

Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-09 Thread Brian
On Mon 09 Jun 2014 at 01:23:43 -0400, Teresa e Junior wrote: > $ cat /etc/hostname > localhost I wouldn't use this in /etc/hostname. Contacting this machine from elsewhwere on the network could prove frustrating. > $ cat /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost This line is the complete contents of /et

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 09 iun 14, 08:35:44, Dalios wrote: > > # apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean && apt-get autoremove && apt-get update > && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade A few comments: - autoclean after clean is redundant - I don't think clearing your cache *before* the upgrade is such a good i

debian installation

2014-06-09 Thread Joy Varghese
Dear Sir/Madam, I am interested to install debian OS in my 'Dell Inspiron N4050' Is it possible to install? Where I will get the correct debian OS. At present the system is running with Windows 7. Thank you & Regards, Joy Varghese

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-09 Thread David Dušanić
08.06.2014, 15:40, "Trudi" : > Hi > I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. > Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online > OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. > My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transform

Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-09 Thread David Dušanić
08.06.2014, 15:10, "Gour" : > David Dušanić writes: >>  I think you can also use aptitude on sid but I really prefer apt. > > So, you believe aptitude is no better than apt in resolve package deps > (in Sid) ? It is my personal preference. I never understood aptitude good enough to use it so I

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