Re: Accelerated driver for Intel video driver?

On Mon, 19 May 2014 19:18:38 -0400 Brad Alexander wrote: > I hope I don't run afoul of the self-imposed list monitors or > otherwise fan a flame war...:) > > I have been using nvidia cards in my computers for so long that I > haven't really kept up with the state of Intel... > > My problem is t

MTP support in Jessie fails

The Media Transfer Protocol is not working correctly on my Jessie system, updated yesterday. Here's a transcript of syslog when I plug in my MTP-enabled phone: May 19 23:08:50 rocket kernel: [49381.712966] usb 1-5: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci May 19 23:08:51 rocket kernel: [

Re: Debian 5

Jim, Within a few hundred yards of your facility, if its on UofP home campus, is a world center of computing experts, maybe several world centers. Many of the computer experts in these centers are also experts on Debian and some of them may have had a hand in the original setting up of the compute

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On 20140519_1553+0400, Reco wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:43:21AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > On Mon 19 May 2014 at 13:04:51 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30:45AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > > And can you explain why hplip depends on systemd ? > > > > > > One reaso

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On 20140519_1304+0400, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30:45AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > And can you explain why hplip depends on systemd ? > > One reason IMO - PolicyKit. > > The better question is - why hplip (which is also used on print servers > which have to X installed

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On 20140519_1645+0100, Brian wrote: > On Tue 20 May 2014 at 01:16:34 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > > > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Brian wrote: > > > (presumably quoting someone else's post) > > >Per 6.3.2, I use my casting vote to choose D as the winner. > > > > Sorry for the dumb qu

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:13:35AM -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: ..snip.. > > Once again you can't discuss the facts to you make personal attacks. I see no ad hom attack. As a matter of fact, the only one(s) I've seen have been made by you, calling someone a socialist,

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

On 5/20/14, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> On 5/19/14, Tom H wrote: >>> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Erwan David wrote: Le 18/05/2014 08:34, Tom H a écrit : > > If you want tty2 to be available permanently and persistently through >>

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/20/14, Lee Winter wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Richard Hector > wrote: > >> On 19/05/14 17:42, Lee Winter wrote: >> > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Zenaan Harkness > > > wrote: >> > >> > Are you aware that there is a useful (from the perspective

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 01:39:35PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > 2) When lawmakers are paid to orient what they do this is usually called > corruption. Unfortunately, what is corruption in one country is just common business practice in another. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will ha

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:33:48PM +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > England (or Great Britain - I'm not sure which) in the late 1800s. One > of my other interests, Gilbert and Sullivan, is notably impacted by > that, as the "license copy" of a play wasn't necessarily identical to > what ended up bein

Accelerated driver for Intel video driver?

I hope I don't run afoul of the self-imposed list monitors or otherwise fan a flame war...:) I have been using nvidia cards in my computers for so long that I haven't really kept up with the state of Intel... My problem is that when I try to play a video on this machine, either with mplayer or vl

Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

I'm trying to setup exim4 in a situation that has got to be pretty common. (Other than perhaps the choice of smtp server) In general it is: single user home machine running debian send mail to remote addresses by `smart host' Retrieve mail by fetchmail, or in some accounts just use Imap and do

Re: 2 xservers/display managers

Hello, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Richard Hector wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 20/05/14 04:13, Ralph Katz wrote: >> On 05/19/2014 08:20 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >>> Hey all, >> >>> I'm wondering if it would help me to have 2 potentially >>> simultaneous lo

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

Jonathan Dowland writes: > Oops. I forgot you have to provide an address on the command line, which is > the > address to which the test message is sent, e.g. > >> sudo /usr/sbin/exim4 -v j...@debian.org > >> Using -d and sudo I get a heap of interesting info but am not allowed >> to send anythi

Re: Debian 5

On Monday 19 May 2014 20:40:05 Jim Harris wrote: > I ran into a situation whereby a server was not well maintained and > contains some critical scientific information for someone I know. Updating and upgrading only matters if the machine is in contact with the outside world. Otherwise, if it is

Re: Debian 5

On 5/19/2014 2:40 PM, Jim Harris wrote: > I ran into a situation whereby a server was not well maintained and contains > some critical scientific information for someone I know. It has not been > properly maintained since the system was put together using very talented > computer people at the t

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

Brian writes: > On Mon 19 May 2014 at 07:30:23 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> > There is an implication here that you think exim (or sendmail) is to be >> > manipulated directly. That is not the case. It is a daemon which listens >> > and which deals with mail *which is sen

Re: Debian 5

On 05/19/2014 03:40 PM, Jim Harris wrote: If it can be saved, what would be a suggestion? Thank you. Depends on the data format. Upgrading it would be arduous and time consuming. It would probably take less to backup the data, re-install the server to bring it up to date and then bring th

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 03:19:53PM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > What version does that for you? > Here is is: Exim version 4.82 #3 built 12-Apr-2014 14:20:29 Exim version 4.80 #3 built 02-Jan-2013 19:40:22 > When I try it, either as my user or root I get lots of info especially > with -d, but a

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Erwan David wrote: > Le 19/05/2014 00:21, Tom H a écrit : >> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:29 AM, David Dušanić >> wrote: >>> >>> Systemd-shim is there to provide functions by systemd on a system that does >>> not use it as its init system. It could be useful when y

Re: Debian 5

On Monday, May 19, 2014 15:40:05 Jim Harris wrote: > I ran into a situation whereby a server was not well maintained and > contains some critical scientific information for someone I know. It has > not been properly maintained since the system was put together using very > talented computer people

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:06 PM, Gary Dale wrote: > On 18/05/14 06:40 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Gary Dale wrote: >>> >>> So I am free to build a fence on public property that denies my neighbour >>> the right to access his house? That seems to be the crux of your >>> a

Re: systemd - excessive session-creation time

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/19/14, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Erwan David wrote: >>> Le 18/05/2014 08:34, Tom H a écrit : If you want tty2 to be available permanently and persistently through reboots, run: system

Debian 5

I ran into a situation whereby a server was not well maintained and contains some critical scientific information for someone I know. It has not been properly maintained since the system was put together using very talented computer people at the time, but have since moved on to other things. It

Re: Max number of loop devices OR "efficient search of Debian documentation"

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2014-05-18, Tom H wrote: You'll have to run "chown root:disk /dev/loop8" too. >>> >>> Nobody mentioned that in my reading! >> >> ls -l /dev/loop* > > Yes, I did that after you mentioned the chown and remarked that all my > loopy devices

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 03:39:00PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 19 May 2014 at 15:53:50 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:43:21AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > > > If you wish to run a headless print server, we now ship the independent > > > packages of hpijs and hplip-cups,

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

Jonathan Dowland writes: > (as superuser) /usr/sbin/exim4 -v > (type message) > ^D > > this gives me the entire dialogue with the remote SMTP server from the POV of > my smarthost. It should for you, too, I hope. If you supply -d instead of -v > (-d implies -v as well) you get a lot more output.

Re: latest sendmail on testing

Curt writes: > On 2014-05-18, Harry Putnam wrote: > >>| rea...@newsguy.com... Deferred: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot >>| write ./dfs4IGodqZ004450 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=122): No such file or >>| directory Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] >> ` >> >> Where is sendmail trying to write? Why is

Re: Tails

On Sat, 2014-05-17 at 21:06 +1200, Richard Hector wrote: > On 16/05/14 16:42, Weaver wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Is there anybody on the list in Forteleza, Brazil? > > > > There's a young, female, investigative journalist there, who wants to > > install Tails onto a USB stick, with a persis

Re: 2 xservers/display managers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/05/14 04:13, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 05/19/2014 08:20 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> Hey all, > >> I'm wondering if it would help me to have 2 potentially >> simultaneous logins on my computer, one for private use and one >> for work (I'm working f

Re: OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 19:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 12:49 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > On 5/19/2014 12:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:32 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > >> RIAA > > > > > > and collecting society mafias, > > > https://en.wikip

Re: OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 12:49 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 12:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:32 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> RIAA > > > > and collecting society mafias, > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_copyright_collection_societies#United_States >

Re: OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 12:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:32 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: RIAA and collecting society mafias, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_copyright_collection_societies#United_States comparable to the German GEMA mafia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_

Re: OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 11:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:28 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: This is why most songs, commercial computer programs, etc. are registered. Many musicians are member of collecting societies. The celebrity musicians benefit from the mafia-like approach of those

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:24 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 19/05/14 17:42, Lee Winter wrote: > > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Zenaan Harkness > > wrote: > > > > Are you aware that there is a useful (from the perspective of > > freedoms) distinction to be ma

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Brian wrote: > The section number: > >https://www.debian.org/devel/constitution > > The context and the mail I quoted from: > >https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727708 > Thanks! That's what I was missing. ChrisA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: GPT and SSDs

On 19/05/14 09:04 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2014, Gary Dale wrote: This led me into partitioning. I thought that GPT pretty much gave you proper partition alignment, but now I think I was mistaken on Unfortunately, it doesn't :-( that point. gdisk shows my first pa

Re: 2 xservers/display managers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/19/2014 08:20 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm wondering if it would help me to have 2 potentially simultaneous > logins on my computer, one for private use and one for work (I'm working > from home). That would give me 2 home direct

Re: Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:52 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> I was just thinking of a slightly more limited approach: decide that "if >> the work is covered by DRM, then unless a non-DRMed copy is on file with >> the central archive, anti-circumvention law does not apply". > >

OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:32 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > RIAA and collecting society mafias, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_copyright_collection_societies#United_States comparable to the German GEMA mafia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_copyright_collection_societies#Germany are la

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Tue 20 May 2014 at 01:16:34 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Brian wrote: > > (presumably quoting someone else's post) > >Per 6.3.2, I use my casting vote to choose D as the winner. > > Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the section number refer > t

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

People, this off-topic thread has dragged on WAY too long. There's a Debian off-topic mailing list, which exists specifically for that purpose - to let Debian users discuss things that aren't directly related to Debian. PLEASE, for the love of $DEITY and to have some compassion for the people who

Re: can't get wicd to work

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 05:48:28PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 19/05/2014 15:55, Patrick Wiseman a écrit : > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Hans wrote: > >>> What am I doing wrong? > >> I got this problem, when I had network-manager installed, too. It looked > >> for > >> me, like they do

Re: Random hard freezes Wheezy

On 17.05.2014 13:12, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Network Manager on a server? Yes, it's installed by default. Is there some drawbacks of keeping it on server? > - test your RAM (memtest) Did it before installing. > - try a newer kernel (e.g. from backports) As a last resort. I don't want to tou

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

People, this off-topic thread has dragged on WAY too long. There's a Debian off-topic mailing list, which exists specifically for that purpose - to let Debian users discuss things that aren't directly related to Debian. PLEASE, for the love of $DEITY and to have some compassion for the people who

Re: latest sendmail on testing

On 2014-05-18, Harry Putnam wrote: >| rea...@newsguy.com... Deferred: 421 4.3.0 collect: Cannot >| write ./dfs4IGodqZ004450 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=122): No such file or >| directory Closing connection to [127.0.0.1] > ` > > Where is sendmail trying to write? Why is sendmail trying to write

OT: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, 2014-05-19 at 11:28 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > This is why most songs, commercial computer programs, etc. are > registered. Many musicians are member of collecting societies. The celebrity musicians benefit from the mafia-like approach of those collecting societies. The unknown musician

Re: can't get wicd to work

Le 19/05/2014 15:55, Patrick Wiseman a écrit : > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Hans wrote: >>> What am I doing wrong? >> I got this problem, when I had network-manager installed, too. It looked for >> me, like they do not want exist together. I have no explanantion for it, but >> deinstalling a

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:51 AM, Brian wrote: > (presumably quoting someone else's post) >Per 6.3.2, I use my casting vote to choose D as the winner. Sorry for the dumb question, but what does the section number refer to? I feel I've missed some context here. ChrisA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 10:16 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: After just reading a few mails of this topic, I want to mention, that there's a difference between "copyright" and "right of publication". Don't mix "copyright" and "related rights". In Germany "copyright" is named "Urheberrecht", translated word by wor

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 9:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to provide a copy of the material to the Copyright Office. So there is always at least one copy of something available. Are you su

Re: GPT and SSDs

On 19/05/14 01:50 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:48:00AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: This led me into partitioning. I thought that GPT pretty much gave you proper partition alignment, but now I think I was mistaken on that point. gdisk shows my first partition starting at 34, with t

Failure of X in Wheezy on Compaq Armada E500.

No problem with X in Squeeze on this machine. In Wheezy there is an error when attempting to set MTRR. Details here. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=748017 Other cases have the complaint about MTRR but no solution here yet. Ideas welcome. Thanks, ... Pet

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Mon 19 May 2014 at 09:46:19 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Le 19/05/2014 00:21, Tom H a écrit : > > On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:29 AM, David Dušanić > > wrote: > >> Systemd-shim is there to provide functions by systemd on a system that does > >> not use it as its init system. It could be useful w

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Mon 19 May 2014 at 15:53:50 +0400, Reco wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:43:21AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > If you wish to run a headless print server, we now ship the independent > > packages of hpijs and hplip-cups, which do not require the full hplip > > depends. > > Thanks, but

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

After just reading a few mails of this topic, I want to mention, that there's a difference between "copyright" and "right of publication". Don't mix "copyright" and "related rights". In Germany "copyright" is named "Urheberrecht", translated word by word it's "creator-right". In Germany we know th

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 9:00 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to that image. An im

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

On Mon 19 May 2014 at 07:30:23 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > Brian writes: > > > There is an implication here that you think exim (or sendmail) is to be > > manipulated directly. That is not the case. It is a daemon which listens > > and which deals with mail *which is sent from a client*. The cl

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:52 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > I was just thinking of a slightly more limited approach: decide that "if > the work is covered by DRM, then unless a non-DRMed copy is on file with > the central archive, anti-circumvention law does not apply". In other words, the anti-circu

Re: can't get wicd to work

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Hans wrote: > >> What am I doing wrong? > > I got this problem, when I had network-manager installed, too. It looked for > me, like they do not want exist together. I have no explanantion for it, but > deinstalling and purging all network-manager packages fixed the

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/19/2014 09:44 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 20/05/14 01:26, The Wanderer wrote: > >> If a copy were indeed required to be registered with the Copyright >> Office, that would sharply reduce or potentially eliminate the "no >> non-DRMed copy a

Re: can't get wicd to work

> What am I doing wrong? I got this problem, when I had network-manager installed, too. It looked for me, like they do not want exist together. I have no explanantion for it, but deinstalling and purging all network-manager packages fixed the problem. On the other hand, network-manager is now

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/05/14 01:26, The Wanderer wrote: > If a copy were indeed required to be registered with the Copyright > Office, that would sharply reduce or potentially eliminate the "no > non-DRMed copy available to enter the public domain" objection to > DRM

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:26 PM, The Wanderer wrote: > On 05/19/2014 09:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle >> wrote: >> >>> In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to >>> provide a copy of the material to the Copyright Office.

Re: Unable to install Debian 7.5.0

On Monday 19 May 2014 08:39:03 Saptarshi Kapas wrote: > After download i > burn this iso in dvd. There's your problem. You should have burnt the image not the .iso. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/19/2014 09:18 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle > wrote: > >> In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to >> provide a copy of the material to the Copyright Office. So there >>

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > In fact, in the United States, to copyright something you have to provide a > copy of the material to the Copyright Office. So there is always at least > one copy of something available. Are you sure of that? I thought most jurisdictions'

Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot

Following your feedback, I upgraded the linux-image to 3.14-0.bpo.1-amd64. I have no problems with booting, rebooting and shutting the PC down. My CPU is also Haswell, i7-4770K > - Original Message - > From: John Bleichert > Sent: 05/19/14 09:02 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Su

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/19/2014 08:42 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 8:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote: > >> On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> Yes, I understand the difference. The license I grant you to use >>> my copyrighted material says what

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

Hi Harry, On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 12:32:26AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote: > I've pounded along googling and scanning the exim documentation on > board for a couple of hours tonight... but I have yet to find a simple > straight forward explanation of how to get more verbose output so I can > tell wha

Re: GPT and SSDs

On Mon, 19 May 2014, Gary Dale wrote: > This led me into partitioning. I thought that GPT pretty much gave > you proper partition alignment, but now I think I was mistaken on Unfortunately, it doesn't :-( > that point. gdisk shows my first partition starting at 34, with the > fdisk info showing 2

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 20/05/14 00:49, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote: >>> On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to that image. An important difference. >>> >>

Re: new 3.14-1-amd64 kernel will not boot

On 05/19/2014 06:20 AM, Theodore Alcapotaxis wrote: Hello John, What version of i7 do you use? Sandy-Bridge? Ivy-Bridge? Haswell? Haswell: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz -- --- John Bleichert-syb...@earthlink.net T

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote: >>> On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to that image. An important difference. >>> >>> I co

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On Du, 18 mai 14, 23:06:57, Gary Dale wrote: > DRM is a fence. My right to use things that I pay for is restricted by > DRM. Get a refund. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mail

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:46 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:37, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Linking to an image on my site makes it look like the image is a part of your site. If I own the copyright on that image, that is a violation of the copyright. That appears to be still a subject of debate. My

Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output

On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 10:09:23PM -0700, David Guntner wrote: > It's certainly not a "drop-in replacement" in terms of the configuration > files, etc. But it was designed with a high degree of compatibility with > sendmail, and from an end-user's standpoint (once it's up and running), > there's n

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 20/05/14 00:30, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 8:17 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 20/05/14 00:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 5/19/2014 7:58 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 23:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 4:31 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 19/05/14 14:01, J

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/19/2014 01:42 AM, Lee Winter wrote: > I said above that intellectual property is the most pure form of > property. That statement is based on the fact that intellectual > property is nothing _but_ human labor. Just not physical labor. > There

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:33 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to that image. An important difference. I confess I don't see that difference. Are you saying that

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 20/05/14 00:37, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Linking to an image on my site makes it look like the image is a part of > your site. If I own the copyright on that image, that is a violation of > the copyright. That appears to be still a subject of debate. My view: If I haven't copied it, how can I be

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:32 AM, The Wanderer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/18/2014 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Actually, you have NO RIGHTS. You can do only what the content creators s

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/05/14 00:32, The Wanderer wrote: > What is your basis for claiming this? > > As far as I can see, there is no basis in the law for the claim > that copyright grants any control whatsoever over the end user's > *use* of the copyrighted thing. In

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:23 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to that image. An important difference. I confess I don't see that difference. Are you saying that the link must be visible and not clickabl

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 05/18/2014 10:31 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/18/2014 10:21 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> Actually, you have NO RIGHTS. You can do only what the content >>> creators say you can do. >> >> I'm guessin

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:13 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 23:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote: BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to someone else's work. Who said anything about preventing linking? I never did. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00931.html F

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 20/05/14 00:23, Richard Hector wrote: > On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to >> that image. An important difference. > > I confess I don't see that difference. > > Are you saying that the link must be visible and not

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 8:17 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 20/05/14 00:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/19/2014 7:58 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 23:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/19/2014 4:31 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 14:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/18/2014 9:47 PM, Paul E Condon wrot

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 20/05/14 00:20, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > You cannot link to an image on my site. But you can provide a link to > that image. An important difference. I confess I don't see that difference. Are you saying that the link must be visible and not clickable? Again, I'd still like to see a reference

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/2014 8:09 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote: But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you own. I don't think the law goes quite that far ... Maybe

2 xservers/display managers

Hey all, I'm wondering if it would help me to have 2 potentially simultaneous logins on my computer, one for private use and one for work (I'm working from home). That would give me 2 home directories, 2 icedove profiles etc etc. To that end, does anyone know if it's possible to have 2 instances

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 20/05/14 00:14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 7:58 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 19/05/14 23:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 5/19/2014 4:31 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 14:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/18/2014 9:47 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: >> On 20140518_2131-0400

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 7:58 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 23:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/19/2014 4:31 AM, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 14:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/18/2014 9:47 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20140518_2131-0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 5/18/2014 6:39 PM, The Wanderer wr

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 19/05/14 23:11, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> BTW I'd also like to see evidence for what law prevents linking to >> someone else's work. >> > > Who said anything about preventing linking? I never did. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00931.html From: Jerry Stuckle Date: Thu, 15 May

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/19/14, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/18/2014 11:15 PM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 19/05/14 14:10, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> But if I catch you violating my copyright, I will have everything you >>> own. >> >> I don't think the law goes quite that far ... > > Maybe not if you're Bill Gates or Wa

Re: systemd situation in Jesssie

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:43:21AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 19 May 2014 at 13:04:51 +0400, Reco wrote: > > > On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 10:30:45AM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > > > And can you explain why hplip depends on systemd ? > > > > One reason IMO - PolicyKit. > > > > The better question i

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 19/05/14 23:19, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/19/2014 4:31 AM, Richard Hector wrote: >> On 19/05/14 14:01, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> On 5/18/2014 9:47 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20140518_2131-0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 5/18/2014 6:39 PM, The Wanderer wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGN

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

On 5/18/2014 11:58 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/14, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 15:28, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Oh Richard, bless you. Now you've taken away my excuse to pretend I didn't really know what Jerry was saying and continue to mock his lack of precision :) I'm one of thos

Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

On 5/19/2014 7:39 AM, Erwan David wrote: Le 19/05/2014 13:20, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 5/19/2014 6:08 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 5/19/14, Richard Hector wrote: On 19/05/14 20:43, Zenaan Harkness wrote: A more relevant request: how about an example of a digital (or any) recording that wa

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